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jhsticks
06-05-2009, 02:17 AM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3664/ouchf.gif

jhsticks
06-05-2009, 02:17 AM
hey jh your thingymbob rules

Zed
06-05-2009, 04:40 AM
We can see your username when you post. Trying to make it look like people like your animation in that manner is just about as noobish as it could possibly get. At least multi-account. If you ever post again, do it in beginners.

FizzlemanJ
06-05-2009, 04:47 AM
I lol'd hard. At your stupidity though, not the animation.

FoShizzle
06-05-2009, 04:53 AM
hey jh your thingymbob rules

**** you

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 05:19 AM
What The **** Was That?!?!

Zed
06-05-2009, 05:23 AM
Lol caps fail. It was an attempt to put all the pivot-provided stks on top of each other, I think.

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 05:35 AM
Lol, GAYPILE!!!!

Cronos
06-05-2009, 07:02 AM
no jh..., your thingymaboby was not cool.

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 07:03 AM
Look at my SIG. KD is gay!!!

Zed
06-05-2009, 07:05 AM
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 07:06 AM
Just because he has butseks with you >:D

Zed
06-05-2009, 07:09 AM
You're only posting so that your name is the last post in the entire show off section, aren't you?

Anyway, was there some sort of context to that conversation?

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 07:11 AM
what's the point of that. and yes. I am. to take total control over stick page portal!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
okay, fun's over.

Cronos
06-05-2009, 07:29 AM
lol at the response in your sig 'whos mel gibson?' lol........

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 07:58 AM
It was funny at the time. I knew who he was :D
WA. mate, how's Australia? I was born in WA :D

Cronos
06-05-2009, 08:16 AM
Well, its pretty darn boring if you ask me... we dont get much in WA. Also ive never been out of WA >.< so i couldnt realy compare it to other places, but our football teams going to melbourne next month so it should be good :D

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 08:26 AM
Melbourne's a cool place. Visit queensland one day, it's nice up/over there.

Cronos
06-05-2009, 08:29 AM
Ya :D i support the Brisbane Lions in the AFL; since 1999... we were good back in 2000-2004 but now everyone is gone ;_;. Anyways where also going skiing in melbourne and ive never been in snow either :)

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 08:39 AM
Switzerland would be better for that.
I don't do afl, i more for rugby

Cronos
06-05-2009, 08:42 AM
Rugby is fun when your against migits.

Orange Blob
06-05-2009, 09:12 AM
No, it's fun when you get tackled and there's a pile up :D
i was once on the bottom.
oh god, that sounded wrong

Rival
06-05-2009, 09:14 AM
STOP TRYING TO GET THE LAST POST!!

jeezas.

Cronos
06-05-2009, 09:20 AM
no you are......

Avian
06-05-2009, 10:57 AM
Rugby is fun when your against migits.
No, it's fun if a player is a loser.
So the fans would be happy.

s-t-y-x
06-05-2009, 03:29 PM
hmm needs some work its choppy and stuff.

jhsticks
06-06-2009, 01:11 AM
i no its crap because its my first flippin' animation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jhsticks
06-06-2009, 01:13 AM
your animation sucks!!!!!!!!

Cronos
06-06-2009, 01:16 AM
**** fag you posted it out here instead of the beginner section so what do you expect. If its your first animation why the **** even post in on here... actualy get good first and read some tuts. You also commented on your own animation using the same account... do you really think we are that dumb?

when s-t-y-x commented he gave you critisism so dont chuck a sad.

Covalence
06-06-2009, 01:17 AM
having multiple personalities on one account is often frowned on

mvfcrule
06-06-2009, 02:43 AM
HA
that is sooooooooooo funny that you tried to make it look like someone else was saying it
it sucks

SBpivoter
06-07-2009, 05:59 AM
Crappy and a bit stupid...

and don't post like ur someone else... :Sweating:

Rival
06-07-2009, 06:11 AM
your animation sucks!!!!!!!!


i no its crap because its my first flippin' animation!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"who said that?" "said what, we're the only ones!" "what!?!" "who!?" "AAAAAAAAH"

N T
06-07-2009, 06:59 AM
L O L?

Rival
06-07-2009, 07:55 AM
LoL you sigged it :P

edit: LoL you unsigged it. :|

Cronos
06-07-2009, 08:05 AM
lol now i sigged u :3333

Rival
06-07-2009, 08:06 AM
Not funny!!!!!!!

Cronos
06-07-2009, 08:12 AM
mwahaha, very funny <3

Tidus
06-09-2009, 08:42 AM
I quite liked it, actually. Finally something diffrent from either stupid as gay fights in pivot. Pivot is a program for noobs, and only THEY can make good animations with it.

Rival
06-09-2009, 10:22 AM
You also do fights in flash. Don't be an idiot to tell that pivot is lame, because its a choice you make yourself to use it. Pivot is for everyone, but you don't have to use it, like I don't use flash. Why do you use flash, instead of something else.


And god that anim isn't good. are you blind or something?

N T
06-09-2009, 10:24 AM
I think it was sarcasm

Rival
06-09-2009, 10:26 AM
Quite sure it wasn't.

Zed
06-09-2009, 10:28 AM
He thinks any animation is good s long as it is origional. Personally, I disagree. Origionality is to be pursued, but you can still make good quality animations that aren't, or low quality ones that are. I enjoy looking at what newbies post and then taking the idea to see if it can be done well, it's not origional, but it involves technique and the other guy can learn from it a lot easier than trying to piece bits together from tutorials, etc.

Rival
06-09-2009, 10:31 AM
I think he meant more: Pivot sucks.

Zed
06-09-2009, 10:38 AM
Oh













I like my way better.

Rival
06-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Sorry to break your whole explanation :3

Tidus
06-09-2009, 10:59 AM
Pivot is:
Easy, cheap and boring.
If someone makes a stupid background in pivot with the slightest bit of shading it's seen cool. In flash it's not even close to that.

In pivot if someone makes a single colour effect with 30-50 particles it's insane, in flash it's a laugh.

In pivot you can't ease quite as well as in flash, because you can't zoom in.

Angles and perspectives are almost impossible because of the lame STK editing function.

About 60% of the pivoteers are total noobs, who suck and are lazy, leading into stealing good animators' STK figures. There was even made a whole community for this called Droidz.

You will NEVER see a good pivot animation with a good story attached to it, while in Flash, there are hundres of thousands.

Also, out of own experience I can tell that "noobs" have the best and funniest animations. Surely they are not eased as well as Jon or TRGG's animations, if you can call that true easing, but they are very original.

I have animated with pivot for 2 years, too, but I hate it nonetheless.


And Zed, quite frankly, I do think originality is one of the most important sides of someone's skills.

Rival
06-09-2009, 11:05 AM
So in short: you hate pivot because you couldn't do it well.
If you're good you can almost do anything with flash wich you can also do with pivot

And "out of own experience with noobs", That's your call, but most hate noob anims.


And you're comparing pivot with flash, Wich is stupid, for these are different in almost everything.
Pivot doesn't get that much updates, hell it won't ever anymore. Flash keeps getting upgraded forever. Flash will keep getting more and more ads.

Zed
06-09-2009, 01:34 PM
Pivot is:
Easy, cheap and boring.
If someone makes a stupid background in pivot with the slightest bit of shading it's seen cool. In flash it's not even close to that.

Backgrounds can be made in any programe and added in. If I were so inclined it would be one minutes work to make my background in flash and bring it to pivot.

In pivot if someone makes a single colour effect with 30-50 particles it's insane, in flash it's a laugh.

Flash is easier in this area, yes, but that just removes some of the skill from it.

In pivot you can't ease quite as well as in flash, because you can't zoom in.

I make all of my animations with scale factor 4. I can't zoom out, admitedly, but I can get as much detail in.

Angles and perspectives are almost impossible because of the lame STK editing function.

More dificult, certainly, but if you see my animation below (one of my more original ones) you'll see some 3D elements.

About 60% of the pivoteers are total noobs, who suck and are lazy, leading into stealing good animators' STK figures. There was even made a whole community for this called Droidz.

There's still that 40%. I don't like or use droidz.

You will NEVER see a good pivot animation with a good story attached to it, while in Flash, there are hundres of thousands.

You more or less have me on this point. If I was irrational enough to fight the side that I knew was wrong then I could say it's because the animators with the good ideas move on to flash because it's more versatile, but that's really just admitting that pivot isn't as good.

Also, out of own experience I can tell that "noobs" have the best and funniest animations. Surely they are not eased as well as Jon or TRGG's animations, if you can call that true easing, but they are very original.

Thing is though, they're origional simply because they're impossible and badly animated. When you suspend the laws of physics you can do more or less anything you want to. I can knock out a completely random animation with animals flying across the screen and colours all over the place in two minutes, but the quality will be very low.

I have animated with pivot for 2 years, too, but I hate it nonetheless.


And Zed, quite frankly, I do think originality is one of the most important sides of someone's skills. Matter of opinion.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6694/jugglingcascade.gif

Prehaps the words 'straws' and 'clutching' come to mind. I admit that flash is a better programme, but I think that pivot can produce some good stuff. Also, it keeps the noobs out of flash and means that when people do finally make the transition they already know what easing is.

Kieran.
06-09-2009, 01:47 PM
*krome pops in the thread*

<conclusion> You will never really achieve animation skill in pivot, yet some people find it fun and a challenge. You will not become well respected if you are a good pivot animator, other than among other pivnoobs. Pivot can be fun to work with but the export quality is shameful. Pivoteers enjoy pivot, so let them find out the hard way that other programs are better is better. </conclusion>

*krome leaves the thread*

Jontiways
06-09-2009, 02:50 PM
your animation sucks!!!!!!!!



you can talk aye?

what zed said

listen if your going to post something, make sure that you think about posting before you do it. If you go posting shite like this expect cc from other people, if you go say other are crap when they are not because i have seen much better on here by miles expect flaming and insults.

cell123
06-09-2009, 04:33 PM
that was stupid

Rival
06-09-2009, 10:54 PM
*krome pops in the thread*

<conclusion> You will never really achieve animation skill in pivot, yet some people find it fun and a challenge. You will not become well respected if you are a good pivot animator, other than among other pivnoobs. Pivot can be fun to work with but the export quality is shameful. Pivoteers enjoy pivot, so let them find out the hard way that other programs are better is better. </conclusion>

*krome leaves the thread*


That completely sayes the opposite of the whole conclusion.

Pivot is way harder then flash to do, So when you move to flash, you have a less hard time finding everything out. I think pivot is just a program to begin with before you move to flash.

Cronos
06-10-2009, 12:40 AM
No Rival, pivot is ten times easier than flash. Especialy when you first start. In pivot there are simple joints to move around, in flash you have to pretty much re draw it every time be it line tool or brush. Although i think flash streams the seperate frames together alot better than pivot, so hard easing and less frames are easier.

But yeah, its not like the cool effects ect. we get in flash are easy, their still hard as shit.

I agree with you that pivot is good for beginners though, it helps you to realise how movement ect. should work.

Rival
06-10-2009, 10:53 AM
I mean it on a different scale. He thinks pivot has almost to none benefits that flash do have.

I<3LP
06-10-2009, 02:13 PM
dde, ur realllly good at this! all thes guys dont know what they are talking about! you might be a famous animter 1 day:Happy:

Rival
06-10-2009, 02:39 PM
Get out of my sight!

MonsterBreath12
06-10-2009, 02:42 PM
No Rival, pivot is ten times easier than flash. Especialy when you first start. In pivot there are simple joints to move around, in flash you have to pretty much re draw it every time be it line tool or brush. Although i think flash streams the seperate frames together alot better than pivot, so hard easing and less frames are easier.

But yeah, its not like the cool effects ect. we get in flash are easy, their still hard as shit.

I agree with you that pivot is good for beginners though, it helps you to realise how movement ect. should work.

Pivot is simple and awsome, when flash you have a crapload of stuff that you can do to your animations. I like them both tho.





& yeaa, go post in begginers section please.

and yeah, please post in begginers.


If you wanna start with movements, i agree. Go for pivot.

Flash you should try later on when you know howto animate decently

I<3LP
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
Get out of my sight!whts ur problem man!

Rival
06-10-2009, 02:43 PM
EXACTLY MY POINT!

Thank you!!!!

I<3LP
06-10-2009, 02:44 PM
EXACTLY MY POINT!

Thank you!!!!u dnt make any sence :Dope:

Rival
06-10-2009, 02:48 PM
You need to talk english and **** off. Wait, just **** off.

I<3LP
06-10-2009, 02:49 PM
u ned to calm down and get a biggr penis:heh:

Rival
06-10-2009, 02:50 PM
U will get banned for flaming like this. And why am I feeding you?

I<3LP
06-10-2009, 02:52 PM
ur the one that told me to **** off!

Conker303
06-10-2009, 03:53 PM
No offense but shouldn't this of been posted in the "Begginers Post Your Animations Here" thread?