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Plague
07-21-2009, 01:36 AM
Well, I was using Mu.Lab, but I decided to move on to FL Studio 8. I am happy with the loops, but the song I attempted to make failed. I see others making songs 10x better on their first try, *sigh*, am I not cut out for this? Anyways, here they are. Please comment or I will give you super herpes.


Using FL Studio 8

Loops
Elaborance - http://tindeck.com/listen/weea
Dramatose - http://tindeck.com/listen/uzch

I honestly have no idea what inspired the names for these.

Urge - http://tindeck.com/listen/undn


Using Mu.Lab
Radiant - http://tindeck.com/listen/hjue
Invasion - http://tindeck.com/listen/fqut
Frantic - http://tindeck.com/listen/fblf
Remissant - http://tindeck.com/listen/ripp

Again, please comment. And thank you in advance to those who do.

‹berschall
07-21-2009, 05:12 AM
Aw woah omg ow

Elaborance: Totally out of tune. The sketchy rhythm isn't the biggest problem since I take it that that was intended, but the (I believe it's z3ta, right?) arp you got in there is very sensitive towards being switched around and knocked everything out of tune. Don't you hear that it sounds dissonant? Or was that intended? Because if so, well then it's not my music. But if not, listen.

Dramatose: Better. I'd put some EQ on the saw lead and boost the treble a little. Also, lay down a four-to-the-floor rhythm already and let it slide along a little.

Urge: Goes all over the place. Again, at some point it's probably time you stick to a simple 4ttf without putting all those 16th bassdrum hits in there, it's distracting. I guess the detune there was intended, I still find it sounds horrible but gives it a psy feel, which you were probably going for.

The bassdrums in all of these don't seem really punchy. I suggest you search for something deeper with more boom to it, to get some breathing room in the bass end.


I don't know much about Mu.Lab, but I still listened to that stuff.

Radiant: Again, you should boost the treble of that saw staccatoish thing there and finally stick to a rhythm. The delay seems a little strange but that was probably intended. This one suffers the most from melting together into a sticky musical mush, because the channels don't really get a room to move in. Pull them apart by EQing them, experiment a little there.

Invasion: Sounds a little like a movie soundtrack. But oh god, the... sawsinish lead that comes in around half way through is completely out of tune. The toms in there also get boring after a while, you should play with their velocities or some FX to make them more dynamic.

Frantic: Kind of nice jumpy intro. Builds up quite good. The bassdrum could be more powerful. You should have stuck to that rhythm there and build on it instead of fuxing it to hell now. The 303 lead doesn't really fit in, sounds like you just have it in there for the hell of it. Not a bad track, but it also needs more distinct channels and maybe some more playing around with FX.

Remissant: Totally detuned, was that intended? I guess so, though. The low arpish thing there should absolutely get EQ'd down into the bass end a looooooot. The bassdrum sounds better than in your FL pieces, but again, stop fucking dicking around so much. Shove that 4-to-the-floor down it's throat and let it deal with it.
I don't like how you let go of something so easily. It's like in all of these, you switch the subject in the middle of the song and all the melodies and drum patterns you had before are just gone suddenly. Instead of doing that, build up on your stuff and elaborate on it.

Plague
07-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Thank you ScHall for your brutal honesty. It's nice to have someone say why it sucks, and not that it sucks. Some of your terminology is a little unclear to me, though. I am not very great with making music, I can't tell when something is out of tune, or when a certian instrument is overbearing. Also, could you tell me how to EQ the channels, I have tried using the mixer but the only thing that I can seem to adjust is the master volume.

One more thing, could you show me some of your music? Something simular to what I have here, well, except better,... alot better? I need to see how a track should sound. I have listened to many pro songs, and it seems I can't really grasp their complex beats, so could you provide me something simple? If you do, thank you very much. Because I really need to know what a good beat could be like, how to build it up, when and how to make beat variations, ect.

I don't have the attention span to make 2 min. long songs (although I have before). And since I have only the demo of FL Studio 8, I cannot save.

‹berschall
07-21-2009, 08:00 PM
I made a little tutorial .zlp for you to open with FL Studio. Basically a trance song with a NoteBook explaining the structure.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BBQF7VUS

Just go to File > Open and pick that .zlp file, it should all work fine.

Plague
07-22-2009, 03:30 AM
Thanks ScHall,

But I, uh,... didn't, really follow any of that. I don't even know how to use the playlist and patterns system yet. I just make a continuos patter on the sequence editor. I mean it is an AWSOME song compared to my work, which kinda brought me down when you said it wasn't good. It's just that I can't exactly learn from looking at it, but I CAN learn by listening to it. It really seemed good for its purpose.

Anyways, I made a song before I saw your post, I think it is better: Plague - Distonic (http://www.stickpageportal.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1569405)

The intro DOES suck, however. But once the melody comes in I think it gets alot better. I guess I will learn how to use different parts of FL Studio. Maybe once I see my way around the interface I will begin to improve further.

‹berschall
07-22-2009, 04:46 AM
Yeah, I guess my tutorial there is better for looking around and seeing what I did with everything.
Distonic isn't that bad though. The percussion should be way more powerful.
I once made a bunch of FL Studio tutorials in the "Other tutorials" section here on SPP, maybe they'll teach you something.

Plague
07-22-2009, 05:03 AM
Thanks, I might check them out.

I already looked up a playlist editor tutorial. I have got some of that down. I also saw how to use an automation clip to envelope a channel for a nice fade in effect, and I am going to try it out now. I am going to try to do it right this time. I am going to make a much better intro, I doubt it will be brilliant, but I think if I am patient this time I can improve more.