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tahuelon
04-21-2008, 10:11 PM
Im looking for a really good Flash thats free and if there isnt any really good one then could someone tell me whats better Pivot or Eastoon

Index
04-21-2008, 10:14 PM
flash is only free if you pirate it. And it's an opinion question on which program is better, easytoon or pivot.

Gavel
04-21-2008, 10:19 PM
Why don't you try out Pivot or Easytoon for yourself to see which you think is better? I mean, it's not like choosing the "wrong" software will open up a chasm in the space time continuum completely obliterating the universe, you know.

Apples
04-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Simply a preference.
If you want to redraw each frame, choose easytoon.
If you prefer tweening, chose pivot.

ultramega
04-21-2008, 10:37 PM
Try all three... see which one you like.

Komaru
04-21-2008, 10:38 PM
http://www.click-now.net/download/Macromedia_Flash.htm Trial Version only, unless you ahve a key code.

Lf2Master
04-21-2008, 10:42 PM
Key codes cost a dickload of money btw.

Easytoon imitates flash more so than pivot, but both of them are nice programs and accomplish what they strife for.

Rather Cheesy
04-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Pivot is not an animation program, its an abomination.

Therefore go with EZtoon.

Fringo
04-22-2008, 12:41 AM
Key codes cost a dickload of money btw.

Easytoon imitates flash more so than pivot, but both of them are nice programs and accomplish what they strife for.

*cough*SerialsWS*cough*

the afro ninja
04-22-2008, 01:49 AM
There is no free version of flash available. You need to purchase the most up to date version, which is really expensive, or use a KeyGen. You are new so I don't reccomend either. Start with easytoon to get the concept of frames down and use Pivot to easily practice movements. You can get Pivot 3 Beta and EZToon free of charge, look for a link in a Stickied Thread titled "Animation Programs". It'll be in the 'Show Off' section.

tahuelon
04-22-2008, 06:25 PM
Ok so there is no real flash but in gernerla is in what comes ourt better looking what is better Pivot or Easytoon (I Know flash is good so you dont have to say)

Komaru
04-22-2008, 07:04 PM
Wow, can't believe my post was deleted. But seriously, pivot is fast, easy and sucks. EZtoon is long boring, but can kick ass.

Gavel
04-22-2008, 10:27 PM
Wow, can't believe my post was deleted. But seriously, pivot is fast, easy and sucks. EZtoon is long boring, but can kick ass.
Um boring? Using any animation program will seem boring if you're doing it right.

In my opinion, Easytoon is better. Pivot is good for learning the basics of physics and movement, but Easytoon has much more freedom in the case that you can actually draw. In Pivot, particle effects of liquid effects (blood, water, etc) can be tedious because you have to make several .stks and move them around in order to make it look right, whereas in Easytoon, you just draw it. I don't really know why people say Easytoon is harder because you have to redraw every frame. The way I see it, it's less of a hassle than Pivot because at least you don't have to rearrange every individual limb on a character in order to move him. Pivot users, don't get me wrong. I've seen some pretty great Pivot work before (like this one animation I saw limped create), but an Easytoon animation at it's could easily beat a Pivot animation at it's peak in terms of quality.

In short, Pivot is good if you want to get the basics down and just want to animate stick figures, but with Easytoon, you can really accomplish some mind blowing stuff.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9240/1208897778809fg8.gif

Kitsune
04-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Simply a preference.
If you want to redraw each frame, choose easytoon.
If you prefer tweening, chose pivot.

There are no tweens in Pivot, Mayn! Only moving objects around to make an "animation".

Out of the two:
Pivot is best for learning motions and physics.
Easytoon is best for drawing frames, and making more simple detail in your animations.


Flash is just better overall. No contest. :3


http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9240/1208897778809fg8.gif

Who the **** made that!? lol

rx00worth
04-23-2008, 08:22 AM
you can pretty much do easytoon in flash
as well as pivot so, flash is 2 in one!
GO FOR IT

Masronoai
04-23-2008, 06:48 PM
I honestly think pivot is good for a beginner, and it can still be good for advanced animaters. Try it out! Only problem is the limited creating tools, so be crafty!

Gavel
04-23-2008, 06:53 PM
Who the **** made that!? lol
Found it on 4chan on my annual trip back to there.


I honestly think pivot is good for a beginner, and it can still be good for advanced animaters. Try it out! Only problem is the limited creating tools, so be crafty!
Well i think that if someone is a more advanced animator, they should move on to better programs like Easytoon or Flash. Pivot is good for learning the basics like physics, easing, or character movement, but it doesn't really challenge an advanced animator. The only challenge in Pivot, really, is particle effects.

Sawc
04-23-2008, 09:02 PM
Here's the deal:
Flash is not a free program, you can get it free illegally, but it is not suggested by Sawc. Pivot is not an animation program, it is a toy. You can play around with it if you like, but I suggest starting out with easytoon. Pivot will always be looked at as a toy, and nothing more.

Rabstar
06-05-2008, 09:47 AM
I think pivot is better!
i have quite a lot of reasons why but, as Spazz said, its hard to do blood.
JUST GO ON PAINT AND MAKE SOME!
Simple as that!
Both are good options!
I think u have to use easytoon if u have a lot of time!
I didnt like it because im very bad at drawing!
lol
other wise, if ur a good drawer, go for EZtoon
(i like pivot)

Lixu
06-05-2008, 10:39 AM
Im looking for a really good Flash thats free and if there isnt any really good one then could someone tell me whats better Pivot or Eastoon

Easytoon is better in my opinion if you have a tablet.
Pivot is better overall