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StickWarrior14
01-30-2013, 04:38 PM
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Who said albow massing > giant massing?

badplayer
01-30-2013, 06:10 PM
he was boned regardless of whether or not he was massing albows...what is this, 1200?

ShadowyWhisper
01-30-2013, 07:38 PM
I don't know, people above the 1600s don't mass Allbowtrosses.

StickWarrior14
01-30-2013, 08:14 PM
he was boned regardless of whether or not he was massing albows...what is this, 1200?

Tbh, his rating was mid 1550's

@shadowywhisper

it's for ppl that have trouble against them

FailingAtFailing
01-30-2013, 08:49 PM
Albow mass can be beaten easily. 2 or so giant meatshields and some archidons in the back while speartons rush any magikill or other ground units. I do it against albow massers when I face them and it works almost all the time.

dracojex
01-30-2013, 09:01 PM
The easiest is to have a wall of speartons with shield and then just use magikill's electric wall and fire blast. It kills albows reallly fast. It's actually quite incredible.

jli
01-30-2013, 10:20 PM
Couldn't the albows just target your magikill though?

FailingAtFailing
01-30-2013, 10:39 PM
The easiest is to have a wall of speartons with shield and then just use magikill's electric wall and fire blast. It kills albows reallly fast. It's actually quite incredible.

Me and frost tried something similar in a test. Albows can easily fly OVER speartons and kill archers or magikill. Giants work better since they are taller.

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 01:12 AM
Well, why don't you move the mages to the other side of the spears?
Or, move the speartons back

FailingAtFailing
01-31-2013, 08:20 AM
Well, why don't you move the mages to the other side of the spears?
Or, move the speartons back

The game is 2.5-D you could say. There is some depth, but not a whole lot. The bolts would still have a chance of catching the archers heads if you used speartons. Even more so when they use shield wall since they lower their height slightly. Since giants can touch the top of the screen (almost) when grown atleast once, they can absorb bolts with no chance of magikill or archers being hit. Besides, 1 giant even half-grown has more health than 2 speartons with almost the same population cost. Plus the giants can also stun and do huge damage to the albows to support your archers. One less bolt, plus some huge damage.

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 08:31 AM
So basically, Spear+Mage for pro's,
Giant+mage for noobs (not really)

FailingAtFailing
01-31-2013, 08:34 AM
So basically, Spear+Mage for pro's,
Giant+mage for noobs (not really)

I'd rather use the giant since per population, it has more health than a spearton when upgraded and can also attack albows while blocking bolts, unlike speartons. Again, giants have a 100% chance of blocking bolts aimed at other units, while speartons have more like a 90

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 08:36 AM
I'd rather use the giant since per population, it has more health than a spearton when upgraded and can also attack albows while blocking bolts, unlike speartons. Again, giants have a 100% chance of blocking bolts aimed at other units, while speartons have more like a 90

Lol, its up to you. I go for resource.

FailingAtFailing
01-31-2013, 08:40 AM
Lol, its up to you. I go for resource.

I suppose, but I like efficiency, besides one giant is only a little more gold than 3 speartons.

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 08:44 AM
And 3 spear can beat 1 giant

FailingAtFailing
01-31-2013, 08:47 AM
And 3 spear can beat 1 giant

But for tanking purposes, 1 giant is more efficient.

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 08:54 AM
Longer time to build, also doesnt needs to be upgraded to be effective.
Speartons dont

FailingAtFailing
01-31-2013, 09:40 AM
Longer time to build, also doesn't needs to be upgraded to be effective.
Speartons don't

You kinda need to research shield wall. Plus, again, giants can also attack the albows while blocking shots, which speartons cannot do.

_Ai_
01-31-2013, 10:16 AM
You kinda need to research shield wall. Plus, again, giants can also attack the albows while blocking shots, which speartons cannot do.

That is optional. You can choose not to research Shield Wall

StickWarrior14
01-31-2013, 04:40 PM
to be fair guys, Speartons are the prefered tankers in the early to mid portion of the game due to faster build time and cheaper than giants. However, if the game drags on, Giants are best choice.

ShadowyWhisper
01-31-2013, 05:09 PM
And 3 spear can beat 1 giant

For a fully grown Giant, you need 4 Spearton.

dracojex
01-31-2013, 08:50 PM
plus albows can move over your speartons relatively easily. True they can move around giants but they risk being hit and with speartons you have to get out of shield wall and go back to it and they move around way to much