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fram
02-09-2013, 10:02 AM
Well as everyone knows for both order and Chaos (this is to do with chaos) ninja spammers can be hard to beat for 1500 players like me
so here is what i do vs ninja spammers Map:green hills:

1)first off i had no idea what he was gonna get so i started how i usually start on large maps a early wingadon and 1 miner then when you get 150 gold get a wingadon, this way (on large maps) you will have more money than him if he does swords archer/3 swords as you will have the more miners and effective units. Make sure the Wingadon lives lives!

2)then see if he has castle archer, if like my battle he does send your Wingadon to the middle.Now he has three options, either to a)make some swords and attack the miners so then i have to build weak land units b)get an archer and someone else to protect archer or c) like what my noob opponent did which was getting 1 archer and acting like a pro archer guy like Fr0st and tried to micro his archer. However if like my opponent is a noob and doesn't micro like the guy i was against, keep your wingadon there as he auto-heals and make sure you either have more miners than him/harass his economy so he cant go on the second gold row.

3) Now its time to harass his miners! you can either get ghost jugger forcing him to a)retreat and get castle archer and wall b)show his army or c)attack asap after killing your jugger. Or get 2 juggers witch have the same effect though you might survive longer or kill more of his miner.
(i think i got really lucky 'cause all of the c options are what {in my opinion}noobs would do and the guy im against done all the c's) keep your miners praying.

4) if he attacks you with whatever he has (in my case 2 ninjas) just keep wing at middle and get dead/some juggers. Juggers are good dealing with ninjas ( Especially with charge) but wont beat 20 ninjas with full upgrades.... Get 3-5 more wings

5)when your second ghost spawns and either attacks their miners or help you killing their ninjas, get some more miners ( around 3-4 )-and make them mine now get some more wingadons and some deads- so u can posion them/ cause them to make all of there guys waste alot of mana over only 1-3 deads

6)then keep on getting bombers till you have 10 but NEVER get a medusa v ninja spammers unless you have max ranged units behind it as you can sure make them lose 600 gold/ 450 gold 150 mana but You've lost 1000/ 500gold 500man get 5-6 more juggers and spawn lvl 2 (play the offensive)

7)If they try to take the middle pretend to let them take it. this wont work out if he got tower spawn lvl 2 b4 hand.... when they are on hold at the middle attack them because the opponent will not be controlling them as he thinks you are scared. do not send in your bombers! when units are on hold the will only attack units in their range so instead of like 15 ninjas fully upgraded using shnobi vs your army its like 5 ninjas at a time without shnobi attacking your army. Normally he will see you attacking his units and send them to attack you so here's what you have to do.

Keep your deads safe as their poison can be a vital part of you winning, make you r flying wingadons take down his stunned ninjas (stunned from your charge) and send bombers at the near start of the battle (when all of your opponents ninjas are in 1 big huddled up group attacking 1 unit.)
although this might not kill them it will defiantly injure them enough to let you win. Micro skill aren't very useful as deads are to slow and wingadons cant be hit though if you really want to ensure your win, place your wingadons above his units reducing the length of the arrows distance (jokes)
most ninja spammers wont aim directly for your statue if they see an army/ a lot of guys who can stun them preventing them from attacking or moving.

8)now you have either won/ waiting for your units to mop up the last of his guys. Check again if during the time he was getting ninjas he got castle archer, if he does get the center and let your ghost attack him till he surrenders or builds a wall. if he builds a wall send in your ranged units after the ghost spawns to attack the wall then send them back when he dies and do it again and again until he lose/ you have a big enough army of melee units to kill his statue. you win :)
if he doesnt have a castle archer kill his miners and then aim for statue. you win :)

fram
02-09-2013, 10:04 AM
my first thread! (i thought it got deleted by accident lol)

DragonFrost
02-09-2013, 10:39 AM
Sometimes you talk about swords, sometimes wingadons? That's two different empires... But if you really want to beat a ninja spammer, always mass albows, with 7-10 swords with rage at the statue (in case they rush to statue). Keep a magikill with the swords too, he can do a bunch of damage to all of the ninjas at once (if they don't kill him).
Chaos: mass wingadons, and have a bit more than enough bombers to kill his ninjas. If he charges them at statue, good bye ninjas!

DragonFrost
02-09-2013, 10:57 AM
I'm, but later on you talk about getting a sword...

DragonFrost
02-09-2013, 11:03 AM
O.o quadruple post, from, I recommend deleting some of those posts.

YQ2012
02-11-2013, 12:50 AM
Well as everyone knows for both order and Chaos (this is to do with chaos) ninja spammers can be hard to beat for 1500 players like me
so here is what i do vs ninja spammers Map:green hills:

1)first off i had no idea what he was gonna get so i started how i usually start on large maps a early wingadon and 1 miner then when you get 150 gold get a wingadon, this way (on large maps) you will have more money than him if he does swords archer/3 swords as you will have the more miners and effective units. Make sure the Wingadon lives lives!

2)then see if he has castle archer, if like my battle he does send your Wingadon to the middle.Now he has three options, either to a)make some swords and attack the miners so then i have to build weak land units b)get an archer and someone else to protect archer or c) like what my noob opponent did which was getting 1 archer and acting like a pro archer guy like Fr0st and tried to micro his archer. However if like my opponent is a noob and doesn't micro like the guy i was against, keep your wingadon there as he auto-heals and make sure you either have more miners than him/harass his economy so he cant go on the second gold row.

3) Now its time to harass his miners! you can either get ghost jugger forcing him to a)retreat and get castle archer and wall b)show his army or c)attack asap after killing your jugger. Or get 2 juggers witch have the same effect though you might survive longer or kill more of his miner.
(i think i got really lucky 'cause all of the c options are what {in my opinion}noobs would do and the guy im against done all the c's) keep your miners praying.

4) if he attacks you with whatever he has (in my case 2 ninjas) just keep wing at middle and get dead/some juggers. Juggers are good dealing with ninjas ( Especially with charge) but wont beat 20 ninjas with full upgrades.... Get 3-5 more wings

5)when your second ghost spawns and either attacks their miners or help you killing their ninjas, get some more miners ( around 3-4 )-and make them mine now get some more wingadons and some deads- so u can posion them/ cause them to make all of there guys waste alot of mana over only 1-3 deads

6)then keep on getting bombers till you have 10 but NEVER get a medusa v ninja spammers unless you have max ranged units behind it as you can sure make them lose 600 gold/ 450 gold 150 mana but You've lost 1000/ 500gold 500man get 5-6 more juggers and spawn lvl 2 (play the offensive)

7)If they try to take the middle pretend to let them take it. this wont work out if he got tower spawn lvl 2 b4 hand.... when they are on hold at the middle attack them because the opponent will not be controlling them as he thinks you are scared. do not send in your bombers! when units are on hold the will only attack units in their range so instead of like 15 ninjas fully upgraded using shnobi vs your army its like 5 ninjas at a time without shnobi attacking your army. Normally he will see you attacking his units and send them to attack you so here's what you have to do.

Keep your deads safe as their poison can be a vital part of you winning, make you r flying wingadons take down his stunned ninjas (stunned from your charge) and send bombers at the near start of the battle (when all of your opponents ninjas are in 1 big huddled up group attacking 1 unit.)
although this might not kill them it will defiantly injure them enough to let you win. Micro skill aren't very useful as deads are to slow and wingadons cant be hit though if you really want to ensure your win, place your wingadons above his units reducing the length of the arrows distance (jokes)
most ninja spammers wont aim directly for your statue if they see an army/ a lot of guys who can stun them preventing them from attacking or moving.

8)now you have either won/ waiting for your units to mop up the last of his guys. Check again if during the time he was getting ninjas he got castle archer, if he does get the center and let your ghost attack him till he surrenders or builds a wall. if he builds a wall send in your ranged units after the ghost spawns to attack the wall then send them back when he dies and do it again and again until he lose/ you have a big enough army of melee units to kill his statue. you win :)
if he doesnt have a castle archer kill his miners and then aim for statue. you win :)

Remember me?
What if...the ninjas charged 4 your statue? Miner turrets can't help u much though...

Op 1: Giants...area damage can slow them down...
Op 2: Let bombers guard the statue cuz ninjas only have average health...and will die after the impact...

fram
02-11-2013, 05:16 AM
Originally Posted by fram
Well as everyone knows for both order and Chaos (this is to do with chaos) ninja spammers can be hard to beat for 1500 players like me
so here is what i do vs ninja spammers Map:green hills:

1)first off i had no idea what he was gonna get so i started how i usually start on large maps a early wingadon and 1 miner then when you get 150 gold get a wingadon, this way (on large maps) you will have more money than him if he does swords archer/3 swords as you will have the more miners and effective units. Make sure the Wingadon lives lives!

2)then see if he has castle archer, if like my battle he does send your Wingadon to the middle.Now he has three options, either to a)make some swords and attack the miners so then i have to build weak land units b)get an archer and someone else to protect archer or c) like what my noob opponent did which was getting 1 archer and acting like a pro archer guy like Fr0st and tried to micro his archer. However if like my opponent is a noob and doesn't micro like the guy i was against, keep your wingadon there as he auto-heals and make sure you either have more miners than him/harass his economy so he cant go on the second gold row.

3) Now its time to harass his miners! you can either get ghost jugger forcing him to a)retreat and get castle archer and wall b)show his army or c)attack asap after killing your jugger. Or get 2 juggers witch have the same effect though you might survive longer or kill more of his miner.
(i think i got really lucky 'cause all of the c options are what {in my opinion}noobs would do and the guy im against done all the c's) keep your miners praying.

4) if he attacks you with whatever he has (in my case 2 ninjas) just keep wing at middle and get dead/some juggers. Juggers are good dealing with ninjas ( Especially with charge) but wont beat 20 ninjas with full upgrades.... Get 3-5 more wings

5)when your second ghost spawns and either attacks their miners or help you killing their ninjas, get some more miners ( around 3-4 )-and make them mine now get some more wingadons and some deads- so u can posion them/ cause them to make all of there guys waste alot of mana over only 1-3 deads

6)then keep on getting bombers till you have 10 but NEVER get a medusa v ninja spammers unless you have max ranged units behind it as you can sure make them lose 600 gold/ 450 gold 150 mana but You've lost 1000/ 500gold 500man get 5-6 more juggers and spawn lvl 2 (play the offensive)

7)If they try to take the middle pretend to let them take it. this wont work out if he got tower spawn lvl 2 b4 hand.... when they are on hold at the middle attack them because the opponent will not be controlling them as he thinks you are scared. do not send in your bombers! when units are on hold the will only attack units in their range so instead of like 15 ninjas fully upgraded using shnobi vs your army its like 5 ninjas at a time without shnobi attacking your army. Normally he will see you attacking his units and send them to attack you so here's what you have to do.

Keep your deads safe as their poison can be a vital part of you winning, make you r flying wingadons take down his stunned ninjas (stunned from your charge) and send bombers at the near start of the battle (when all of your opponents ninjas are in 1 big huddled up group attacking 1 unit.)
although this might not kill them it will defiantly injure them enough to let you win. Micro skill aren't very useful as deads are to slow and wingadons cant be hit though if you really want to ensure your win, place your wingadons above his units reducing the length of the arrows distance (jokes)
most ninja spammers wont aim directly for your statue if they see an army/ a lot of guys who can stun them preventing them from attacking or moving.

8)now you have either won/ waiting for your units to mop up the last of his guys. Check again if during the time he was getting ninjas he got castle archer, if he does get the center and let your ghost attack him till he surrenders or builds a wall. if he builds a wall send in your ranged units after the ghost spawns to attack the wall then send them back when he dies and do it again and again until he lose/ you have a big enough army of melee units to kill his statue. you win
if he doesnt have a castle archer kill his miners and then aim for statue. you win
Remember me?
What if...the ninjas charged 4 your statue? Miner turrets can't help u much though...

Op 1: Giants...area damage can slow them down...
Op 2: Let bombers guard the statue cuz ninjas only have average health...and will die after the impact...
he is economic pressured and most likely wont leave his base undefended as he just cares about his money.
Also charge can stun ninjas and increses speed and (Even though i forgot 2 put it.) Keep your juggers at base and wings at center.
Get 3 castle deads as poison is good v ninjas if the ninjas dont run to garrison.
I beat all ninja spammers ive been against, only 1 of them waited for me to attack Him.
V spear spammers pressure them into attacking you when they only have like 10 spears cuz u will lose nothing (if your as good as me) and they will waste 10 spears as you can get the same amount of deads and juggers in the same time ;)
(did u know why my account got into our chat??????)

THEFORCE
02-16-2013, 01:22 AM
Pressure them early game, if hew gets castle archer, then just get juggerknight, if he gets walls, just tower spawn, you will now have economic/army advantage.

After that, when tower spawn damaged the wall, he will star getting ninjas, but not as fast as they are expensive.

Get giants as they do splash damage, he will be on defensive + less economy.

Eclipsors are good too.

fram
02-16-2013, 05:44 AM
I have never fought a giant spammer as chaos as i pressure them
i let some1 spam spears though he attack with only 20 juggers deads and giant KILLED HIM.
IF YOU CAN STUN YOU OPPONENTS IF U HAVE RANGED UNITS AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE DEADS
this is because posion&stun=murder as he has to get to garriosn to cure posion posion works forever(unless chaos/meric/garrisoned and in small parts.

YQ2012
02-16-2013, 11:30 PM
I have never fought a giant spammer as chaos as i pressure them
i let some1 spam spears though he attack with only 20 juggers deads and giant KILLED HIM.
IF YOU CAN STUN YOU OPPONENTS IF U HAVE RANGED UNITS AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE DEADS
this is because posion&stun=murder as he has to get to garriosn to cure posion posion works forever(unless chaos/meric/garrisoned and in small parts.

Remember the last fight? While u r away...my ghost totally wreck ya! However u still beat me though...cuz I gave u that chance...

I SHOULDN'T!!!!! WHY!!!! WHY AM I SO DUMB!!!!!

fram
02-18-2013, 10:50 AM
lol at least u still have ur dignity, oh wait i won while queing loads of guys(1 of each) and i won.

Who did u get, maybe mass jugger?