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Tsang
06-11-2014, 04:52 PM
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/154/2/1/bse_picture_by_camilaanims-d7ky0gj.png

After quite a slumber, we're back with a fresh new round for you peeps to animate! I'm sure you'll have tons of fun with this one!
--- It's time to get things kickin' up in here! ---

New Rules About Posting:



if anyone is going to post any of the following...

- Joining posts. ("IM IN", "I'LL START NOW")
- Promises ("I promise to do it next time", "I promise not to suck", "I promise I will not fail")

Progress:

- People who post images on their progress in an attempt to get circlejerked, you CAN post 1 screenshot here and there but not in every single one of your posts.

- Excuses ("My tablet broke.", "School is coming.", "Noooo I DIDNT SAVE MY WORK")

BSE questions:

- People who ask how many days/hours/minutes are left when it is CLEAR that there is a clock on the first post.

- Asking questions that have already been answered (and displayed on the first post, or have just literally been answered)

- Asking questions about the BSE (how do I join, what's the prize, whats the BSE, etc)

Being patient

- Posts asking about future stuff ("WHEN IS THE NEXT ROUND", "WHEN ARE THE SCORES COMING OUT", "HURRY UP TSANG/CAMILA")

Off topic:

- Off-topic chatter that has nothing to do with the BSE

...in any future BSE Thread from here on out. We will be infracting you for spam. We will make this announcement again in future threads so there wont be any excuses.

You've been warned.

For those who are unfamiliar of how B.S.E. works...

What is BSE?

BSE stands for Best Sequence Execution. It's a very simple yet fun idea, you will be given a sequence of moves and a ”special element” that must be performed in a combo. The combo is being performed by ONE stickfigure against another stickfigure. The special element can be anything from superpowers and special weapons, to different environments and music synchronization.

An example:

Combo: Punch, Punch, Kick, Kick, Kick."
Or "Punch, Kick, Throw.

Special element: The combo must be performed inside a wind tunnel.

The combos will become more advanced the further on down the competition. The final round will always have the longest combo of them all.

How many rounds?

There will be 10 rounds, each one will last 2-4 weeks. No rounds will be shortened or lengthened, even if everyone finishes their animations early, or most people don’t finish on time.

Length?

There will be NO minimum length. However, obviously, length may act as a catalyst for getting more points, which will be distributed for actual animating skill.

Can I miss a round?

You are allowed to miss out rounds and you are allowed to join this competition in any round you want, although this will obviously affect your overall score.

I'm finished!

At the end of the 10 rounds a winner will be chosen from the highest overall score, and an award will be given to the highest scorer of every round. The top mark for each round will be 10, your end score will obviously then be out of 100.

Let's get into the action!

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Combo!
Kick, Uppercut, Elbow, Jab, Punch, Kick, Bone Breaker, Bodyslam.



Jab

A jab is essentially a quicker punch, one usually requiring lesser force than its counterpart and the arm committing to the attack snaps back immediately after it has been executed.

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Special Element!
The attacking stick figure must be wearing roller skates, thus making it more difficult to balance itself as it executes the combo.
Unless your stick is some prodigy at roller skating or something, haha.

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Due Date!
June 29, 2014 - Eastern Standard Time. [UTC -5]


Thanks to Mustika for the countdown!!! You're da gurl ♥♥♥ ~Camila

Countdown!!! (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140630T00&p0=263&fg1=736db7&fg2=ff6724&msg=BSE+V5+R7+Due+Time&csz=1&swk=1)
Goal for this round: Be as creative as possible, let's see how creative each one of you are once again!

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Score Description:
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/154/d/2/score_description_by_camilaanims-d7ky0hi.png
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Entries!







Entries


Judge 1


Judge 2


Judge 3


Final Score




SJT15 (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2036/)

8.0
7.5
7.8
7.8



Zane (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2041/)

6.5
5.2
5.2
5.6



FL-Nordin (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2042/)

7.5
5.4
7.2
6.7



PivotBlimp (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2043/)

7.5
8.0
6.9
7.5



Red Death (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0PNLEfknc)

2.0
3.0
4.0
3.0



TheFlashSOP (http://sta.sh/014u90yakspq)

4.0
5.0
5.4
4.8



Chewy (http://chewyfa.deviantart.com/art/BSE-Version-5-Round-7-464437041)

9.5
7.8
7.8
8.4



_SAVY_ (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2050/)

4.0
6.0
7.7
5.9



pyrosamurai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwgJ3qYNo0&feature=youtu.be)

1.0
6,4
1,0
2.8





CnC From Judge 1 !!!



SJT15- 8.0, It's very simple yet very clean and smooth. My first impression was all I needed to formulate your score because of how easy this was to watch. I love the angles and the flow of all of your movements. Great Job!

Zane- 6.5, Your movements overall could have been much better. The angle was actually done pretty well. The only thing holding you back is solide, smooth movements. It's also extremely lazy to end the animation so suddenly like you did. You should have animated the impact.

FL-Nordin- 7.5, This was pretty good! I liked the angles and effects you threw in here, but I feel like they took away from the actual movements themselves. I was not a fan of the ending on this one I'm sure you will blow us away again next round since you won't be busy with GTL

PivotBlimp- 7.5, Good lord the entries so far have been really good. This was fun to watch. The attacks could've had more force put behind them and could have been animated better than they were, but overall this was a good anim

Red Death- 2.0, At this point in animating, you should either use the line tool unless you have a table, and you should only focus on two dimensional animations so you can practice motion and how everything flows together while applying the basic animating fundamentals. Next round, I want to see you make a two dimensional animation, you shouldn't worry about backgrounds yet either, and focus on your movements and fundamentals. Applying proper easing to your movements is the most important thing you can do in an animation right now. If you are using the brush tool with a tablet, or even the pencil tool, you need to increase the smoothing setting in the properties panel or use the selection tool (V) to highlight the figure after its drawn and applying the smoothing parimeter to it.

TheFlashSOP- 4.0 , This was definitely neat. You need to add more frames to your movements for sure. Smooth movements that flow into one another are great and should be what you're aiming for everytime. I feel like your animation lacked this.

Chewy- 9.5, Dude I loved this. The music fits perfectly with the animation. The movements were seamlessly executed, made sense, and overall it was really easy to see what was going on. Great job.

Savy- 4.0, Not bad, but I feel like you could have done better with your movements, especially the reactions. The victim never really "got hit" it seems. The attacker also lacked force in his movements which would explain the poor reactions.

Pyrosamurai- 1.0, The idea was realy neat, but it looked unfinished. I aprreciate you making an animation for this round but you have to understand that it isn't fair to those who actualy did finish their work. The colors you used blended to well and made it difficult to tell what was going on. If this was finished and easier to see what was happening, it would be worth a pretty decent score!



Congrats to Chewy for getting the first place!! Also great job SJT15 for earning a well deserved second place.
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So, get 'er done guys! We're expecting great submissions from you folks! http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/135/8/2/dee_by_camilaanims-d7ij08l.png

acb
06-11-2014, 04:56 PM
OMG THIS ROUND SUCKS TOOO

JUST KIDDING

this is cool

Red Death
06-11-2014, 05:06 PM
Bring it on guys! Let me see all you got!

PivotBlimp
06-11-2014, 06:45 PM
Oooo, sounds challenging. This gon' be good

Shadowkirby
06-11-2014, 08:02 PM
Going Saturday Night Fever on this round! Play dem Bee Gees!!

ZABI
06-11-2014, 08:27 PM
Hmm cool element. Who comes up with this stuff?

Apex-Predator
06-11-2014, 08:29 PM
This round looks like fun, I can just hear the 80's arcade music playing already lol.

Camila
06-11-2014, 11:17 PM
I love how now some people is using the FluidAnims smileys again since I put it on my signature. The nostalgia... makes me cry.

_SAVY_
06-12-2014, 06:13 AM
lol nice combo and awesome special element! http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/135/8/2/dee_by_camilaanims-d7ij08l.png lol i still remember the tripple mouth smiley :DDD

FL-Nordin
06-12-2014, 06:55 AM
ugh, rollerskates, lets get this over with...
funny thing is that i actually recently downloaded a certain type of music just in case this element comes up.

Chewy
06-12-2014, 07:33 AM
Oh god, rollerskates. That's going to be fun to animate and is going to give some hilarious results.

TheFlashSOP
06-12-2014, 08:30 AM
woah nice element. this'll be interesting :D btw, can I use inline skates rather than roller skates ? it's basically same thing :D

acb
06-13-2014, 10:50 AM
I was storyboarding my animation and it just came to me.
I'm not really that creative lol

for me there's a very fine line between creative -- and just being completely dumb and shit ;-;

EhMeD_Emer
06-13-2014, 01:13 PM
oh , haha , what a nice special element we have here. I love this version!

_SAVY_
06-15-2014, 04:50 AM
uuhhg -_- my anim is going to be short again...

FL-Nordin
06-15-2014, 11:25 AM
uuhhg -_- my anim is going to be short again...
hehehe, me to cuz gtl2 still...

Red Death
06-19-2014, 08:49 AM
Lol I'm a little good in rollerskating. I'm pretty sure I can pull this off. Heh...

ZABI
06-19-2014, 06:22 PM
This round is fun. Knockin it out in 1 day. Ill post later.

Oh and just asking, will there be a BSE V6?

Pox
06-20-2014, 03:18 PM
This is probably a dumb question but... Do the wheels have to be visible or can the stick figure just slide like he had them on?

_SAVY_
06-20-2014, 04:00 PM
This is probably a dumb question but... Do the wheels have to be visible or can the stick figure just slide like he had them on?

lool i just made circular ones with no animation it still look good enough

Camila
06-20-2014, 05:48 PM
It would be weird if the stick just slides on the floor lol. Don't be lazy and try what SAVY said

Fuzzybrain
06-21-2014, 03:32 PM
My left arm is healed and I'm back in action! Yes Im left handed.

And now I have abode flash CC!

SJT15
06-22-2014, 07:09 AM
At this rate...
I really might not finish in time.

Mustika
06-23-2014, 10:31 PM
Howdy, BSE folks.
Just want to set a reminder that the deadline is going to end in less than a week, so try to gather 'em up with this countdown as your secondary guidance: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140630T00&p0=263&fg1=736db7&fg2=ff6724&msg=BSE+V5+R7+Due+Time&csz=1&swk=1
I know this might be a bit hard as some of you are working on GTL 2 which may produce bit delaying from your BSE parts, however I'm still counting on you guys to finish.

Might as well to link this again for those who don't see the overalls yet: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzyvwvdh68juugp/BSE%20V5%20Leaderboards.xlsx

Best of luck to you all.

Camila
06-23-2014, 11:00 PM
TY Mustika!!! added it to the frontpage.

also check your inbox, I did a small gift fo' you <3

Hewitt
06-23-2014, 11:20 PM
this gift is not in any way furry handcuffs

FL-Nordin
06-24-2014, 07:19 AM
I WILL make an entry to this, i cannot let SJT15 get 1st place >:)
i came this far to be first not 2nd

Mustika
06-24-2014, 07:51 AM
Digging into that spirit, Nordin :D Looking forward to your part, as well as others' for sure.


TY Mustika!!! added it to the frontpage.

also check your inbox, I did a small gift fo' you <3
NP Camila, and...wow I like the sig you've made. Think it fits mine well XD
Thank you so much, I owe you big time. <3

SJT15
06-27-2014, 05:55 PM
Done http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2036/

ZABI
06-28-2014, 10:32 AM
Done.
http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2041/

Chewy
06-28-2014, 11:56 AM
oh shit. I should hurry up haha. luckily the due date is on a sunday.

FL-Nordin
06-28-2014, 01:49 PM
Camila, Tsang, Mustika, im done

> http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2042/ <

PivotBlimp
06-28-2014, 04:54 PM
Doone | http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2043/

ChoreoFA
06-28-2014, 05:05 PM
Good job bro lol btw this is zane from skype WHERE'S MY NAME IN THE CREDITS LOL JK

_SAVY_
06-28-2014, 06:26 PM
offline lewl
Animating : http://www.twitch.tv/savyflip

ZABI
06-28-2014, 08:56 PM
Good job bro lol btw this is zane from skype WHERE'S MY NAME IN THE CREDITS LOL JK

:T

BSE is engaging to me now for some reason. Halfway through it. I'm already craving the next round.
Good Job Tsang and Camila!

Red Death
06-28-2014, 10:16 PM
I'm done...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0PNLEfknc

Shit, the audio is fucked up and I ain't got time to fix it, so I just added cover music but it will take time to process. So without sound effects the moves look a bit unclear.

Mustika
06-29-2014, 06:42 AM
Alright, guys! Entries noted.

UPDATE (entries so far):

SJT15 (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2036/)
Zane (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2041/)
FL-Nordin (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2042/)
PivotBlimp (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2043/)
Red Death (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0PNLEfknc)


For those who are still on the way to finish theirs, don't forget to MIND THE COUNTDOWN (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140630T00&p0=263&fg1=736db7&fg2=ff6724&msg=BSE+V5+R7+Due+Time&csz=1&swk=1) because you got less than 16 more hours to submit your entries from this point! Get them in fellas, I'd love to see those amazing entries.

acb
06-29-2014, 11:01 AM
I'd like to say PivotBlimp has this round in the bag : ))))))

ChoreoFA
06-29-2014, 11:05 AM
I agree ACBeam

*EDIT* http://sta.sh/01wfn4v1vk1e this is only an intro lol I might stream me animating the rest of this IF IM NOT LAZY.

_SAVY_
06-29-2014, 12:06 PM
screenie: http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/180/d/7/aufzeichnen_by_savyflip-d7ogxge.jpg allright i hope i can still sync the music for the last hit .3.



im live btw www.twitch.tv/savyflip

TheFlashSOP
06-29-2014, 05:24 PM
I soooo rushed on ending.. just got back from a family trip. I rly wanted to finish dis. here: http://sta.sh/014u90yakspq but ima remake ending a bit later. so judge this one :D
my first bse, woah :D

FL-Nordin
06-29-2014, 05:41 PM
I soooo rushed on ending.. just got back from a family trip. I rly wanted to finish dis. here: http://sta.sh/014u90yakspq but ima remake ending a bit later. so judge this one :D
my first bse, woah :D
thats pretty good for a first entry i like your skates design

Chewy
06-29-2014, 05:45 PM
I'm finished!

http://chewyfa.deviantart.com/art/BSE-Version-5-Round-7-464437041

_SAVY_
06-29-2014, 05:48 PM
DONE: http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2050/

pyrosamurai
06-29-2014, 08:41 PM
I'd like to say PivotBlimp has this round in the bag : ))))))

Well darn i seem to be missing my thumbs up button :(

My entry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwgJ3qYNo0&feature=youtu.be im not sure if the outcome was good or not because I can't view the result as my laptop is recieving major lag issues :( i don't even know how the animation looks much

Mustika
06-29-2014, 10:42 PM
Wow nice entries, I must say :D I'm just going to update now since it's less than 20 minutes (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140630T00&p0=263&fg1=736db7&fg2=ff6724&msg=BSE+V5+R7+Due+Time&csz=1&swk=1) to the deadline...

UPDATE #2 (final entries):

SJT15 (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2036/)
Zane (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2041/)
FL-Nordin (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2042/)
PivotBlimp (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2043/)
Red Death (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH0PNLEfknc)
TheFlashSOP (http://sta.sh/014u90yakspq)
Chewy (http://chewyfa.deviantart.com/art/BSE-Version-5-Round-7-464437041)
_SAVY_ (http://www.hyunsdojo.com/dojo/2050/)
pyrosamurai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwgJ3qYNo0&feature=youtu.be)



*EDIT* http://sta.sh/01wfn4v1vk1e this is only an intro lol I might stream me animating the rest of this IF IM NOT LAZY.
Better finish it, man. I'm not going to add it on the update because you have to finish your entry to make it eligible for judging.

EDIT: TIME'S UP! Thank you for making an entry. Salutations to you all, now to wait on the scores and CnCs.

ChoreoFA
06-29-2014, 11:10 PM
Well sorry guys I won't be able to finnish this round because the FLA has either been lost or corrupted and I was almosted done Maybe next round guys sorry :(
I should have stopped slacking and finnished on time but im so fucking lazy to even bother lol

Camila
06-30-2014, 09:13 AM
Ty mustika, I was sleeping when the due date was over. Since tsang hasn't posted since he published the round, I'll post to give you guys updates about the judges and their scores.

I hope this can be a faster process now that I have this small programm on my hands, however be patient please.

Red Death
06-30-2014, 09:41 AM
I'm really looking forward to CnC. My part was decent in my opinion.

Reconcile
06-30-2014, 09:46 AM
I'm really looking forward to CnC. My part was decent in my opinion.

The last time I saw one of your anims was not that good.

Well it seems like you're improving quite well. The only is that shit's still wobbly (kinda) and transitions are too fast to understand.

Red Death
06-30-2014, 10:04 AM
The last time I saw one of your anims was shit.

Well it seems like you're improving quite well. The only is that shit's still wobbly (kinda) and transitions are too fast to understand.

Lol, thanks for the feedback :D

Camila
06-30-2014, 05:41 PM
The last time I saw one of your anims was shit.

Would you like me to call something you made a piece of sh**?

acb
06-30-2014, 06:02 PM
The last time I saw one of your anims was shit.

Well it seems like you're improving quite well. The only is that shit's still wobbly (kinda) and transitions are too fast to understand.

You might wanna rethink what you said and reconcile your unjustifiable comment

http://www.yourrelationshipedge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/cool-guy-with-shades.jpg
doesntmakesensebutfuku

Reconcile
06-30-2014, 07:18 PM
ACBeam pls

Would you like me to call something you made a piece of sh**?

gladly

for justice

Camila
06-30-2014, 07:21 PM
gladly

for justice

What you just said was quite mean, I would apologise if I was you.

Pickup
06-30-2014, 07:37 PM
The last time I saw one of your anims was not that good.

Well it seems like you're improving quite well. The only is that shit's still wobbly (kinda) and transitions are too fast to understand.

IDK if im right.. but im just trying to predict that every animator starts to being a noob.. atleast joining BSE would make him improved more.. I know it's a CnC but. It's not nice saying mean stuffs to him. (yeah camila is right :D )

Ill join the next round later camila.. if i could. i would wanna join now. but im busy this time.. sowwy

Edit: Im just saying.. not being offensive to you

Reconcile
06-30-2014, 07:43 PM
Mmm yeah. Shouldvebeen less harsher on using words :T tho Im serious, some of his anims back then wasnt this good. Glad he improved c:

So sorry about that Red. Ill try to cuss less now on.

Mustika
06-30-2014, 07:58 PM
gladly

for justice
Going to say again on what people had commented here but dude, I could just call my first animation as a piece of sh** if so, but again I had sacrificed my 2 weeks time to make it (which is pretty long for a 45 secs. length and full of talks). Just think about how many hours you had spent to make your animation, and you might want to think again about it.
After all, I think "sh**" isn't a proper word to say a slightly "low-quality" animation since it's kind of rude imo. Instead, you can replace it with, "X, I think this *insert what flaws they had in your opinion*, so I suggest you should *insert what constructive CnC you had to suggest them to better the anim*, keep up the good work."

That's just me though, people's perspective on judging things could be different too imo so, yeah.


Ty mustika, I was sleeping when the due date was over. Since tsang hasn't posted since he published the round, I'll post to give you guys updates about the judges and their scores.
It's OK, Camila. Just doing my job ^u^ Looking forward for the updates.

Also, sorrying people here about your absence on making an entry is kind of awkward to me. Just say sorry to yourself :D (no offense intended)

Hewitt
06-30-2014, 08:04 PM
I actually don't find the statement at all offensive...if Reconcile wasn't the one saying them.

What have you done anyway?

Seriously I'm trying to rack my brain here. All you do is do 'hi'/butt-in posts on Clan threads and "hang-out" to post random comments on threads like these. I've never seen anything you've made animation-wise in any form in a long time. What do you even do?


Just think about how many hours you had spent to make your animation, and you might want to think again about it.

Well that's the problem. He hasn't done anything serious in a long time, so he doesn't know how it feels to actually make something worth the effort.

Camila
06-30-2014, 08:19 PM
just calling him out, even tho he's not participating he's doing offensive comments to someone participating, I don't really care if you think is not offensive, is still find it quite harsh to pop out of nowhere and tell that to someone randomly.

Yo mustika, you're doing a better job than someone else...

Reconcile
06-30-2014, 08:33 PM
Can we just forget about the fact that this happened and carry on to the bse

Im aware of my hypocracy yes, but Im sorry. I just want to say that he got quite better than before, the last time I saw one of his animations (past) wasnt like how he is now. Didnt mean to be all out rude to him. I guess I need to stop cussing a lot.

Also the reason why I havent made an anim ever since is that my parents didnt alolow me to use the pc. Im not an addicrt excuse me, idk why they banned me. I also wanna join and showoff how terrible I am or make typographies.



Im real sorry for being a pure butthole tho. Ill try not to butt in this thread and do my own business .n. accept my apologies. No? ok.

Hewitt
06-30-2014, 08:34 PM
Okay so I see that you actually draw art. Huh. Well that's still only levitates your usefulness a little higher.

Okay fine I'm dropping it. I just find your posts as of late (specifically the ones where you cuss without care) really obnoxious.

Red Death
07-01-2014, 05:59 AM
Nah nah thanks guys, I think he was right. Back then I made sucky animations and I kind of fought Mark XD without knowing he was a pro. After a few minutes I realized he noticed my improvement with this animation. So all I cared about was CnC for this animation.

I'm not offended. A true artist or animator accepts Cnc. That harsh comment...I didn't pay attention to.

Camila
07-01-2014, 09:59 AM
The point is that he didn't give you any CnC, he hasn't even animated, and this competition gives you CnC anyways. But yeah let's stoo beating a dead horse.

I guess I'll have to do the scoring.

Mustika
07-01-2014, 08:18 PM
Yo mustika, you're doing a better job than someone else...
Haha, actually I'm just your overall score organizer and (somehow) due date keeper as well since the previous round XD while both you and Tsang have been hosting this since the very first round a.k.a. organizing the core events like combos, special elements, deciding due dates, taking care of judges, etc. which is more important than anything else imo. Don't forget the participants who is still making this whole rounds event to run pretty smoothly with their amazing entries for the sake of improvement (even though there were several complains and such in the past, but you all still manage to continue until this very second. Proud of you all :'3).

In the other words, we all are doing a good job. Cheers~ http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/135/8/2/dee_by_camilaanims-d7ij08l.png

Red Death
07-01-2014, 09:08 PM
Camila you're right. I just don't want to insult him and make a fool of myself...so I took it lightly.

Camila
07-02-2014, 12:05 AM
Soooo apparently our friend Tsang will not be able to host the rest of the BSE. I'll take care of everythig til it finishes.

tho mustika, due dates, judges and scores calculations were all made by me this whole time...

Reconcile
07-02-2014, 12:19 AM
Let Mustika help, she's a helpful woman in the forums and here she can even be a mod
rather than me </3 We don't want you to struggle tho

I still feel bad about my post .n. no hypocracy intended

EhMeD_Emer
07-04-2014, 06:58 AM
Soooo apparently our friend Tsang will not be able to host the rest of the BSE. I'll take care of everythig til it finishes.

tho mustika, due dates, judges and scores calculations were all made by me this whole time...
REALLY ? did you have to put that in an easter egg ? :P

FL-Nordin
07-04-2014, 07:35 AM
REALLY ? did you have to put that in an easter egg ? :P

because we could have lived without knowing that, thats why its a easter egg

Camila
07-05-2014, 02:05 AM
The scores from the judges were quite surprising this round!!.

Check them out along with the CnC on the frontpage!!.

FL-Nordin
07-05-2014, 03:20 AM
wasnt the round based on creativity, it looks like the judges werent keeping that in the back of their heads
but maybe im just a sore loser

Camila
07-05-2014, 03:45 AM
wasnt the round based on creativity, it looks like the judges werent keeping that in the back of their heads
but maybe im just a sore loser

IMO you deserved a better place. Your entry was quite creative but I think you used so many angles that it was hard to know what was happening, like... if I didn't know what was the combo already I couldn't have knew what was exactly happening, you got some nice cinematics but sometime you overuse them so much that instead of entertain the viewer, it confuses him. Which I think is the ONLY problem with you anim. Like for exaple, you should've had a better score than Pivotblimp's, his had a lot of flaws on his movements most of them were choppy and weird, the body was stiff the whole anim the gravity wasn't working well, but at least you could see what were the sticks doing. So yeah... lol

FL-Nordin
07-05-2014, 04:24 AM
IMO you deserved a better place. Your entry was quite creative but I think you used so many angles that it was hard to know what was happening, like... if I didn't know what was the combo already I couldn't have knew what was exactly happening, you got some nice cinematics but sometime you overuse them so much that instead of entertain the viewer, it confuses him. Which I think is the ONLY problem with you anim. Like for exaple, you should've had a better score than Pivotblimp's, his had a lot of flaws on his movements most of them were choppy and weird, the body was stiff the whole anim the gravity wasn't working well, but at least you could see what were the sticks doing. So yeah... lol

^true, im just a bit dissapointed because this animation was in my personal top 3
I appreciate the "making me feel better" comment, tho

_SAVY_
07-05-2014, 05:41 AM
shit.. 5.9? lol this was the best anim i was working on ... one questions are this still the same judges from last round? lol i mean look at my round 6 that was so bad but i still got a higher score..

Red Death
07-05-2014, 09:05 AM
I kind of liked my CnC. I use to use line tool but a few people judged me and stuff. So it isn't really pathetic to use line tool? Because I'm use to drawing with a mouse but I really prefer tablet because I draw neater by hand. But I will do better next round!

Arch-Angel
07-05-2014, 09:14 AM
TBH I'm so upset Foscex didn't make an entry for this round :( His shit is so fucking good.

Edit: Red Death? Who would judge you for using line tool? A lot of the greatest anims on Stickpage were made using line tool lol. Hell, Terkoiz uses the line tool a whole lot when he animates and everyone jumps on his dick.

Edit2: Wow, who gave Nordin a 5.4? That's lame.

Hewitt
07-05-2014, 09:46 AM
Edit2: Wow, who gave Nordin a 5.4? That's lame.

Nice smokescreen there bro

FL-Nordin
07-05-2014, 09:53 AM
that 5,4 went right through my heart, in the bad way
"smokescreen" lol i hope not

Arch-Angel
07-05-2014, 09:57 AM
Nice smokescreen there bro

Hey, someone's trying to be better than me :/


that 5,4 went right through my heart, in the bad way
"smokescreen" lol i hope not

Someone must be hatin' on you, bro.

Camila
07-05-2014, 11:33 AM
I also think that score was kinda harsh, I'll talk to the judge and get some explanations n_n

PivotBlimp
07-05-2014, 11:49 AM
Like for exaple, you should've had a better score than Pivotblimp's, his had a lot of flaws on his movements most of them were choppy and weird, the body was stiff the whole anim the gravity wasn't working well, but at least you could see what were the sticks doing. So yeah... lol

Well damn, that hurt a little. Sorry for trying something different lol. Although I do agree with the overall CnC, I wasn't particularly happy with my entry either.

Edit* Also Nordin, although that last skating angle was sexy af, the rest was kinda awkward to watch. Between all your other entries, I don't think it's top 3.

_SAVY_
07-05-2014, 11:54 AM
.... camila did the judges change since round 5?

Camila
07-05-2014, 12:29 PM
Savy, judges change EVERY round.

Sorry pivotblimp, is my honest CnC.


So I got some explanations from Judge 2's score:

About FL Nordin, although he did sync music and overall he had a few creative angle ideas and the way the background was put in was intersting, almost all of his attacks were tweens, which shows me a general laziness or lack of effort, not to mention that even his tweens weren't particularily good looking, well balanced tweens, (like the ones you would see in Fordz' animations for example, they were aesthetically unpleasing and seemed to take more away from the animation than add to it. Another thing that contributed to my score was the fact that the way he animated his reactions was just awful, like it was wobbly and incoherent and in general the movements didn't make much sense for being hit as hard as it seemed he was being hit at such a high speed. Overall, things I did like about the animation were as I previously stated, the background, and also, the one scene where the cracks appeared in the ground, because that part was well done and looked nice, but those two things were the only things I found really outstanding about his animation and the rest of it was so underwhelming that I decided to give him the score that I did mostly out of generocity and for his ideas if it was based purely on quality, I probably would have given him lower.

I can just only respect the judge's opinion. I hope you can understand now.

Red Death
07-05-2014, 02:38 PM
TBH I'm so upset Foscex didn't make an entry for this round :( His shit is so fucking good.

Edit: Red Death? Who would judge you for using line tool? A lot of the greatest anims on Stickpage were made using line tool lol. Hell, Terkoiz uses the line tool a whole lot when he animates and everyone jumps on his dick.

Edit2: Wow, who gave Nordin a 5.4? That's lame.

He does? When I went to his livestream this 1 time, people kept questioning why I use the line tool, but it was a long time ago I might be wrong. But I'll use line tool for now on.

Chewy
07-05-2014, 02:57 PM
And so my constant style for all the rounds of BSE I did so far finally pays off with a 9.5!

Seriously, that score was really unexpected. Thanks Judge 1!

Camila
07-05-2014, 03:14 PM
And so my constant style for all the rounds of BSE I did so far finally pays off with a 9.5!

Seriously, that score was really unexpected. Thanks Judge 1!

I do think you should try out new things chewy boy. Add FX, some angles y'know, could be great.

Chewy
07-05-2014, 03:49 PM
I probably should try out new things but this style is just really fun to animate and I think BSE is the perfect competition to just experiment with it. I also like to expiriment with angles and effects though but I tend to do that when I'm animating a full-lenght/RHG battle or whatever it is.

Basically I'm trying to keep my BSE rounds as simple as possible but I'll definitely look if I can do something diffirent next round, even if it's just a really small detail

FL-Nordin
07-05-2014, 03:51 PM
Savy, judges change EVERY round.

Sorry pivotblimp, is my honest CnC.


So I got some explanations from Judge 2's score:

About FL Nordin, although he did sync music and overall he had a few creative angle ideas and the way the background was put in was intersting, almost all of his attacks were tweens, which shows me a general laziness or lack of effort, not to mention that even his tweens weren't particularily good looking, well balanced tweens, (like the ones you would see in Fordz' animations for example, they were aesthetically unpleasing and seemed to take more away from the animation than add to it. Another thing that contributed to my score was the fact that the way he animated his reactions was just awful, like it was wobbly and incoherent and in general the movements didn't make much sense for being hit as hard as it seemed he was being hit at such a high speed. Overall, things I did like about the animation were as I previously stated, the background, and also, the one scene where the cracks appeared in the ground, because that part was well done and looked nice, but those two things were the only things I found really outstanding about his animation and the rest of it was so underwhelming that I decided to give him the score that I did mostly out of generocity and for his ideas if it was based purely on quality, I probably would have given him lower.

I can just only respect the judge's opinion. I hope you can understand now.

Aha, I can kinda see what he means, thats one of the reasons we get new judges every round.
everybody has a different look at things, and every one of them look differently at certain stuff, stuff my eyes sometimes dont see.
its nice to get a CnC from the judge who gave the lowest score

thanks for you're kindness of asking him/her camila

Drone
07-05-2014, 03:52 PM
I probably should try out new things but this style is just really fun to animate and I think BSE is the perfect competition to just experiment with it. I also like to expiriment with angles and effects though but I tend to do that when I'm animating a full-lenght/RHG battle or whatever it is.

Basically I'm trying to keep my BSE rounds as simple as possible but I'll definitely look if I can do something diffirent next round, even if it's just a really small detail
Keep your epic shit for round 10 Chewy, just keep doing what you've been doing, it's working

Camila
07-05-2014, 04:07 PM
I'm not saying is a bad style, is just that these rounds are perfect to practice new things....

I'll see if I can post next round today, got a neat idea :3

Mustika
07-05-2014, 06:08 PM
Thanks Camila for the round scores and CnC, Overall scores updated! https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzyvwvdh68juugp/BSE%20V5%20Leaderboards.xlsx
I also put several addition tables like random statistics and participant demographics (Hewitt style-ish lol). One thing left that I just want to put here instead on the Excel table:

Judges average: 5.6 | 5.4 | 5.9

Why you look at that, PivotBlimp and pyrosamurai are changing places, making PivotBlimp into 3rd and pyrosamurai 5th atm!
Also both PivotBlimp and _SAVY_ are neck to neck for their 3rd place battle! Who's going to finally maintain it?

Sorry if I couldn't do any help for CnC because that isn't my real capability when it comes to animation ^^" but I dare to swear, I love the entries apart from the scores which judges gave (though it's still important here). See you around for the next 3 rounds, it's going to the end!
Congrats to Chewy for the 1st place and SJT15 for the 2nd place on this round. Keep up the good work, all.

EDIT:

He does? When I went to his livestream this 1 time, people kept questioning why I use the line tool, but it was a long time ago I might be wrong. But I'll use line tool for now on.
Actually I'm also a line tool user. In fact, I'm proud of it. Not meaning to show some cases, but here's one of my recent animation for a collab back in January: http://fav.me/d73rum0 it was made using line tool and people said it was smooth (well, I do too X)).
So I think just use a tool that you like the most and develop your animations there. Even though it could depend on the situation e.g. brushes for blood/smoke effects and lines for buildings/objects.
Hope to see you more on the next rounds.


I'm not saying is a bad style, is just that these rounds are perfect to practice new things....
Maybe set it for the next round goal, that might work XD

pyrosamurai
07-05-2014, 10:47 PM
Oh my animation must have been confusing but it was finished.. :( oh well

Also i don't want to argue or anything but
how come its automatically a one in bse now when it "looks unfinished" eventhough that wasn't a rule since the begining of the competition?
I promise this will be my only question.

Camila
07-06-2014, 12:38 AM
Oh my animation must have been confusing but it was finished.. :( oh well

Also i don't want to argue or anything but
how come its automatically a one in bse now when it "looks unfinished" eventhough that wasn't a rule since the begining of the competition?
I promise this will be my only question.

oh dear.... even I thought it was unfinished... you got a really big problem there man, like I couldn't even see all the movements listed there and the "ending" was a stick falling? onto... something?. I think the judges to "tried to guess" if the anim was finished or not and just put you a 1.0.

If it does bother you , I can tell'em to judge it again...

pyrosamurai
07-06-2014, 03:43 AM
oh dear.... even I thought it was unfinished... you got a really big problem there man, like I couldn't even see all the movements listed there and the "ending" was a stick falling? onto... something?. I think the judges to "tried to guess" if the anim was finished or not and just put you a 1.0.

If it does bother you , I can tell'em to judge it again...

Yea i apologize I couldn't determine how the animation looked because my laptop was giving a bit of trouble before, but yeah i'd really appreciate if i could get it judged again. Sorry for the trouble.

Arch-Angel
07-06-2014, 07:43 AM
Yea i apologize I couldn't determine how the animation looked because my laptop was giving a bit of trouble before, but yeah i'd really appreciate if i could get it judged again. Sorry for the trouble.

Guy, the biggest part of animation is the ability to tell a story via imagery. You shouldn't have to explain what's going on to your audience. If the judges said it was unfinished it's because you failed to convey your message.

FL-Nordin
07-06-2014, 09:05 AM
Guy, the biggest part of animation is the ability to tell a story via imagery. You shouldn't have to explain what's going on to your audience. If the judges said it was unfinished it's because you failed to convey your message.

hmmmmm, those are well put together sentences, i have never discribed animating in such a way, but it is 100% true, now i fully understand my 5,4 and why he said that he could have given me lower

pyrosamurai
07-06-2014, 03:41 PM
Guy, the biggest part of animation is the ability to tell a story via imagery. You shouldn't have to explain what's going on to your audience. If the judges said it was unfinished it's because you failed to convey your message.

If based on a judges opinion they could say any finished animation is unfinished as such as well as I have never saw an unfinished rule despite mine being finished.(No hate towards Camila) While their opinion does matter this could deem any animation finished or unfinished despite how it appears.

Since I don't want to argue and spam the thread and bother people if you wish to respond please pm me.

acb
07-06-2014, 04:35 PM
Arhh that's quite surprising, I was so sure that pivotblimp was gonna bag atleast 2nd place?
Chewy out did himself with the bg he made for this round and sjt's style is so nice n clean.
Judging from the scores I guess it wasn't really about creativity and instead quality of the animation..?

lol what's up with FL-Nordin's score that's a bit mean...

Arch-Angel
07-06-2014, 04:51 PM
If based on a judges opinion they could say any finished animation is unfinished as such as well as I have never saw an unfinished rule despite mine being finished.(No hate towards Camila) While their opinion does matter this could deem any animation finished or unfinished despite how it appears.

Since I don't want to argue and spam the thread and bother people if you wish to respond please pm me.

No need for you to take it to pm's. I'll end it now. If what you're saying is the case, then how is it coincidental that all three judges watched your animation, drew the same conclusion, gave the same score, and didn't even consider your case to be similar to anyone else's? Yours was the only one that had an extremely sudden stop making it look like you hit the F7 button and leaving it as such. Get over it and stop trying to make excuses man. If anything ask for a restore or move on bro.

pyrosamurai
07-06-2014, 04:56 PM
No need for you to take it to pm's. I'll end it now. If what you're saying is the case, then how is it coincidental that all three judges watched your animation, drew the same conclusion, gave the same score, and didn't even consider your case to be similar to anyone else's? Yours was the only one that had an extremely sudden stop making it look like you hit the F7 button and leaving it as such. Get over it and stop trying to make excuses man. If anything ask for a restore or move on bro.

I simply took up Camila's offer which would've been a restore and you confronted my post.
And I also said there was no rule for unfinished animations.

Camila
07-06-2014, 05:05 PM
Judging from the scores I guess it wasn't really about creativity and instead quality of the animation..?

lol what's up with FL-Nordin's score that's a bit mean...

only 1 score was mean, and sadly not everyone has the same concept of "creativity" as the other judges, I also gave an explanation of why, so there's no point into bring it in again.

edit: got your scores pyro, judge 1 still gave you a 1.0 tho. Said it was unfinished...

pyrosamurai
07-06-2014, 05:20 PM
only 1 score was mean, and sadly not everyone has the same concept of "creativity" as the other judges, I also gave an explanation of why, so there's no point into bring it in again.

edit: got your scores pyro, judge 1 still gave you a 1.0 tho. Said it was unfinished...

I'm totally fine with that I'm glad to recieve feedback the score doesn't matter to me.
If judge 1 was Arch-Angel I respect your decision even though you were so hostile towards me :)

Arch-Angel
07-06-2014, 06:43 PM
I'm totally fine with that I'm glad to recieve feedback the score doesn't matter to me.
If judge 1 was Arch-Angel I respect your decision even though you were so hostile towards me :)

I'm flattered, but I'd rather be judge 2, that guy was legit.
If I recall correctly, when I judged R1, I was giving people like .5's and shit for incomplete entries. That was long ago :(

acb
07-07-2014, 03:30 PM
only 1 score was mean, and sadly not everyone has the same concept of "creativity" as the other judges, I also gave an explanation of why, so there's no point into bring it in again.

Regarding your explanation then, are WE being judged on our skill as animators ourselves and what we potentially can animate, or is it the actual animation we submit for bses?

This isn't a provoking question I just need a new perspective on things

Drone
07-07-2014, 10:24 PM
Regarding your explanation then, are WE being judged on our skill as animators ourselves and what we potentially can animate, or is it the actual animation we submit for bses?

This isn't a provoking question I just need a new perspective on things

Even if it were about creativity, if you look at nordins animation, that's nothing that hadn't been done before in either his animations or others

FL-Nordin
07-08-2014, 02:35 AM
Even if it were about creativity, if you look at nordins animation, that's nothing that hadn't been done before in either his animations or others

hmmm, not really, but if that is so, please explain pyrosamurai's score from judge 2, and why he did better than me (no offence to pyrosamurai)
so dont BS me about "done before" stuff, i might be bitching about it now, but if you didnt posted that comment above me, than I didnt had to defend myself, because thats a really invalid point
also thats not what ACBeam asked, he clearly said it isnt a provoking question.

SJT15
07-08-2014, 03:17 AM
This should not really be a problem because this happened before and no one got concerned about it.
Don't forget that the judges score varies and even if you think you had the chance of getting at least a better score than other people, you didn't.

Also although you had minor flaw in this round don't forget that you are not the only one, even I get low score but I just take it that they didn't like my animation and move on.
I could not care less about the judges score because it's how they judge people.
If judges gave people low score they should also step up and say why because judge 1 does all the work while the other two stand behind him or her.
And because they are 3 judges and not 1, the three judge would have there own opinions on our entries.

I may be underrated but if people are concern about the things I already went through *but not bothered about it then they have the right to be concerned.

acb
07-08-2014, 09:14 AM
Okay SJT but I still don't understand...

FL-Nordin's anim was clearly better than pyro's and pyro's wasn't even finished, everyone knows it except judge 2 lmao.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that why judge 1 and 3 gave pyro the same score?

so, what if it isn't FL-Nordin's score that is wrong, and instead it's pyro's... or both loljkjkjkjkjkjk

Camila
07-08-2014, 09:31 AM
Nordin even tho I don't agree with Judge2's scores there's not muh ti di about it, judges change every round because of this, the only one who hasn't changed since round 2 has been judge 1, kept it just because you liked the CnC. However this was only 1 judge's score in 1 round and sorry if its bias for some of you, but whatever it has been done already. I just don't want an argument here again, I won't stop you if you want to continue it, but if so, I'm leaving it.

SJT15
07-08-2014, 09:37 AM
Okay SJT but I still don't understand...

FL-Nordin's anim was clearly better than pyro's and pyro's wasn't even finished, everyone knows it except judge 2 lmao.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that why judge 1 and 3 gave pyro the same score?

so, what if it isn't FL-Nordin's score that is wrong, and instead it's pyro's... or both loljkjkjkjkjkjk

Already you crave for more information, I already said what it was like, for you to find out more you will have to find out the judges themselves.

Many people have different opinions and some people thought that my round 6 entry should have had a better but there is nothing I can do about it, they already gave me the score.

Plus you can't really defend what you can't change anyway.

acb
07-08-2014, 09:50 AM
Already you crave for more information, I already said what it was like, for you to find out more you will have to find out the judges themselves.

Many people have different opinions and some people thought that my round 6 entry should have had a better but there is nothing I can do about it, they already gave me the score.

Plus you can't really defend what you can't change anyway.

I can just understand where FL-Nordin is coming from really, that's all
And yea it has happened in the past, that's also a big shame too..
I still disagree with it but that's bse for ya. No point in poking this any more

FL-Nordin
07-08-2014, 11:58 AM
oke i sthap now, but i wasnt even starting in the first place, i have already acceped it a long time ago and im not asking for any kind of re-judge whatsoever
i know this has happend to other competitors in the past, thats why i feel so embarresed to give my opinion about it, because the world is not about me
I realize that the last reply i posted, wil get interpreted like a complain by someone, wich wasnt my intention.
sorry for being such a butthurt this round, also the score isnt that low in comparison to the other 2 judges
I appreciate the fact that some of you are standing in the frontline for me tho*
close thread maybe?

Arch-Angel
07-08-2014, 03:07 PM
oke i sthap now, but i wasnt even starting in the first place, i have already acceped it a long time ago and im not asking for any kind of re-judge whatsoever
i know this has happend to other competitors in the past, thats why i feel so embarresed to give my opinion about it, because the world is not about me
I realize that the last reply i posted, wil get interpreted like a complain by someone, wich wasnt my intention.
sorry for being such a butthurt this round, also the score isnt that low in comparison to the other 2 judges
I appreciate the fact that some of you are standing in the frontline for me tho*
close thread maybe?

Hey man, you're still epic. :)