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empiresma
06-26-2016, 02:54 PM
So , start with 2 crawlers and 2 miners .
Then make the two miners pray, and train another crawler, and build crawlers abilityies.
then make all miners mine, and train some crawlers, then train a jugger, and attack .
So build your economy, then train just eclips and build tower ability.
This is an example : www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay12811516&version=2.29


This strat works 99% . If you fought a noob and he's building eco and CA, with a wall. here Crawlers strat works 99% . Just build your eco too... and spam eclips and 2 giants. Or use speciale strat agaisnt the opennent strat.

AsePlayer
06-26-2016, 03:34 PM
So , start with 2 crawlers and 2 miners .
Then make the two miners pray, and train another crawler, and build crawlers abilityies.
then make all miners mine, and train some crawlers, then train a jugger, and attack .
So build your economy, then train just eclips and build tower ability.
This is an example : www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay12811516&version=2.29


This strat works 99% . If you fought a noob and he's building eco and CA, with a tower. Then here Crawlers strat works 99% . Just build your eco too... and spam eclips and 2 giants. Or use speciale strat agaisnt the opennent strat.

No.

empiresma
06-26-2016, 04:32 PM
You see guys. Ase is just trying to make me a noob and stupid. COWARD.

AsePlayer
06-26-2016, 04:36 PM
You see guys. Ase is just trying to make me a noob and stupid. COWARD.

I don't have to make you look like a noob and be stupid, you do that on your own already.

That is one of the worst Chaos openings ever seen, I know this without even being a Chaos player. Anyone can vouch for me that instantly making 2 miners pray = you lose as chaos. Like what even is this?

empiresma
06-26-2016, 04:43 PM
I don't have to make you look like a noob and be stupid, you do that on your own already.

That is one of the worst Chaos openings ever seen, I know this without even being a Chaos player. Anyone can vouch for me that instantly making 2 miners pray = you lose as chaos. Like what even is this?
So how can you beat this strat? huh?? tell me now. you're just saying that my strat is dumb like me.

AsePlayer
06-26-2016, 04:49 PM
So how can you beat this strat? huh?? tell me now. you're just saying that my strat is dumb like me.

By playing standard Order. Sword play going into archidons, shutting you down. You will be down in eco since you instantly make miners pray, worst comes to worst, albows > crawlers, as crawlers can't hit them. Or CA2. Or a Magikill. Or ANYTHING.

Zomar
06-27-2016, 05:41 AM
By playing standard Order. Sword play going into archidons, shutting you down..

Standard Order is not swords, its archer play going into archers and then more archers.

Nyarlathotep
06-27-2016, 05:52 AM
Occasionally you'll get to the point where you require a meric, but otherwise yehyeh archers kill crawlers.

I just wrote an analysis on this topic, actually. Link here: http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?99754-Swordwraths-and-Crawlers-are-a-little-disappointing&p=1452487&viewfull=1#post1452487

TheVeryBoring
06-27-2016, 05:53 AM
Make archer miner then make miner again, then make a sword, So you have 4 miners 1 archer 1 sword. Then build archer sword miner as you need. It works if your opponent have a good internet connection with 200-300ms ping. If not, you maybe will lose.

AsePlayer
06-27-2016, 06:57 AM
Make archer miner then make miner again, then make a sword, So you have 4 miners 1 archer 1 sword. Then build archer sword miner as you need. It works if your opponent have a good internet connection with 200-300ms ping. If not, you maybe will lose.

If there's bad connection sword archer start lol


Standard Order is not swords, its archer play going into archers and then more archers.

Ayyyyyy

empiresma
06-27-2016, 12:52 PM
By playing standard Order. Sword play going into archidons, shutting you down. You will be down in eco since you instantly make miners pray, worst comes to worst, albows > crawlers, as crawlers can't hit them. Or CA2. Or a Magikill. Or ANYTHING.

You can kill albows by bombers. and for CA2 you can use bombers to kill his eco, and i don't think he will get CA2 so easly, just if he have not a lot of miners. if he build a wall just make a dead or eclips. Magikill < Medusa.For shadowrath you have a chance to kill him with medusa , just kill him before he taked shinobi.
when the miners are praying , get the crawlers abilityies, then make them mining.

AsePlayer
06-27-2016, 01:04 PM
You can kill albows by bombers. and for CA2 you can use bombers to kill his eco, and i don't think he will get CA2 so easly, just if he have not a lot of miners. if he build a wall just make a dead or eclips. Magikill < Medusa.For shadowrath you have a chance to kill him with medusa , just kill him before he taked shinobi.
when the miners are praying , get the crawlers abilityies, then make them mining.

DO YOU WOT?!?!??!

Let's see.
1. Do not let the bombers get to the Albows. -.-
2. CA2 is only 600 gold. It's very easily purchased. A wall will stop your bombers from coming in. (Oh boy didn't think about that one did you?)
3. ^
4. Dead or eclips derails your strategy in the first place. You would be behind on your dead or wing timings trying to make your dumb crawler thing work. (Spoiler alert: It doesn't work)
5. Shadowwrath can kill a medusa, magikill kills your everything else. If one medusa, make 2 shadowwrath. Spooky.
6. No.

Any more questions?

empiresma
06-27-2016, 05:10 PM
You tough you're good, but not.
If you're good you can kill albow with bombers 4 hits can kill him. And an albow cost 450G and 200M so it cost a lot and the enemy eco is not good. (when you use crawlers strat) .
CA2 is 600G, right, it's not easy to get it with a wall, if u can so you will not have a lot of miners.
shadowrath can kill medusa, right too, but if you was fast and you killed him fastly before he taked shinobi you can kill him.

Firewall
06-27-2016, 06:03 PM
You tough you're good, but not.
If you're good you can kill albow with bombers 4 hits can kill him. And an albow cost 450G and 200M so it cost a lot and the enemy eco is not good. (when you use crawlers strat) . Ever heard of kiting?
CA2 is 600G, right, it's not easy to get it with a wall, if u can so you will not have a lot of miners. Wall costs 100 gold to research and 200 to set up. Easy to get, and with just one, your economy gets a massive protection boost, which means that CA2 is easily accessible, if you need it.
shadowrath can kill medusa, right too, but if you was fast and you killed him fastly before he taked shinobi you can kill him. All comes down to reflexes at this point, and shadowrath usually don't attack by themselves.

Ase is 2.2k for a reason.

TheVeryBoring
06-27-2016, 07:32 PM
You tough you're good, but not.
If you're good you can kill albow with bombers 4 hits can kill him. And an albow cost 450G and 200M so it cost a lot and the enemy eco is not good. (when you use crawlers strat) .
CA2 is 600G, right, it's not easy to get it with a wall, if u can so you will not have a lot of miners.
shadowrath can kill medusa, right too, but if you was fast and you killed him fastly before he taked shinobi you can kill him.

No.

empiresma
06-27-2016, 08:56 PM
Ase is 2.2k for a reason.

that's why he got rekt

TheVeryBoring
06-27-2016, 09:02 PM
that's why he got rekt

No.

AsePlayer
06-27-2016, 09:16 PM
that's why he got rekt

Getting beaten once by luck doesn't make any of my points invalid. I still have majority wins on you.

Albows simply don't get bombed by four bombers lmao. The bombers always get sniped. Or perhaps... I got some new meta for you. Put the Albows.... BEHIND THE WALL.

empiresma
06-29-2016, 06:50 AM
Getting beaten once by luck doesn't make any of my points invalid. I still have majority wins on you.

Albows simply don't get bombed by four bombers lmao. The bombers always get sniped. Or perhaps... I got some new meta for you. Put the Albows.... BEHIND THE WALL.

It's not easy to buy a wall and an allbow , if he did, so he have not good eco.And an albow can hit just one unit . so you have time to destryo that wall, and you need to save the bombers before to kill the albow after destroying the wall .

LVL 9001
06-29-2016, 09:17 AM
Empiresma, I challenge you to think of a counter to the following starts from Order using your strategy.
1. Spearton Start
2. Shadowrath Start
3. Double Archer Start

Plus, with an Albow behind that wall, it would be very hard to destroy it, one should presume.

AsePlayer
06-29-2016, 09:32 AM
It's not easy to buy a wall and an allbow , if he did, so he have not good eco.And an albow can hit just one unit . so you have time to destryo that wall, and you need to save the bombers before to kill the albow after destroying the wall .

I'm not talking about early game here. Early game, archer mass with a wall. gl hf.

empiresma
06-29-2016, 09:47 AM
I'm not talking about early game here. Early game, archer mass with a wall. gl hf.
Early? You must make it Early. Maybe you will lag out later or your mom or dad call you for a job (not me xd) .
Also, 2 bombers and one hit from crawler can kill an archidon.

LVL 9001
06-29-2016, 10:16 AM
Not everyone has shitty internet, you can't rely on that. Also, what part of Archer MASS aren't you getting? Crawlers and Bombers melt too quickly from even just 6 Archers to even touch them.

empiresma
06-29-2016, 10:37 AM
Not everyone has shitty internet, you can't rely on that. Also, what part of Archer MASS aren't you getting? Crawlers and Bombers melt too quickly from even just 6 Archers to even touch them.

Do you think the enemy will use two archidons start?

AsePlayer
06-29-2016, 10:38 AM
Early? You must make it Early. Maybe you will lag out later or your mom or dad call you for a job (not me xd) .
Also, 2 bombers and one hit from crawler can kill an archidon.

There's this thing called spacing.

empiresma
06-29-2016, 10:46 AM
There's this thing called spacing.

what's that?

AsePlayer
06-29-2016, 10:51 AM
what's that?

It's where you kinda... don't let their crawlers and/or bombers get even remotely close to the archidon. It's common knowledge, but ya know.