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Thread: wRHG Character Regulations

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    wRHG Character Regulations

    So, for a time, wRHG characters were allowed to be made without any real form of regulation, to allow creative outlets to run wild. However, this sort of freedom can and has shown to create a schism if left out of check. These regulations will be set in place not to limit the potential of new characters, but to ensure that they'll meet a certain standard that should ensure the process of community acceptance will be streamlined.

    THESE ARE NOT RULES.
    THESE ARE REGULATIONS.
    THEY NEED NOT BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED. THEY EXIST TO ALLOW USERS A WINDOW TO CHANGE PUBLIC OPINION BEFORE ANY MODS STEP IN.

    1. All-Encompassing Powers are not allowed.
    This regulation applies to abilities such as omniscience, omnipotence, ominpathy, omnikinesis, etc. If an ability is able to be used on a massive scale, affecting unreasonable numbers of things/people at once or controlling an unreasonable or infinite number of aspects, then it is expressly forbidden. The reasons for this are that there can be no true justification for such an amount of power, and to battle against somebody with such power will almost certainly lead to defeat. To make an easy to understand example, "If you have a gun in a fight, no matter how much you say you won't use it, if the circumstances show up, you will shoot somebody." If you're not going to use an ability, then the ability is not needed.

    2. Number of Abilities (Variety)
    This regulation is to keep characters consistent. Characters are allowed to have multiple abilities. This said, a character's abilities must logically relate to each other, or the character's theme overall. Simply adding a list of abilities that do not reasonably go together, or which together create too much power, will not be tolerated. An example of an acceptable mix of diverse powers would be if a character controls elements; a list of several elements may then be used, provided they don't go overboard. An example of abilities that don't go together are teleportation, firebending, and summoning any type of gun. It creates too broad a character, and risks becoming a toolbox which creates an unfair scenario for competing writers.

    3. Multiple Characters
    This regulation comes in two parts; the first part is that EVERY USER IS ALLOWED A SINGLE GLADIATOR AT A TIME.

    Characters which qualify as "Duos" or "Groups" are allowed, but under the condition that they function as a singular gladiator. What this means is, neither character should be able to be a viable/serious threat on their own; reliance on the other character(s) is required. Simply having two characters who alone are capable of winning battles reasonably is the same as having two gladiators, which is strictly against the rules. An example of a duo character would be Maka and Soul from Soul Eater. Though both characters are able to fight solo to some extent, they're only truly a fighting force when working together, and their abilities complement one another. Soul turns into a weapon and Maka can use abilities such as Witch Hunter and Djinn Hunter through him. Similar, having a character who is physically weak and unable to fight themselves, but can summon other fighters is acceptable, so long as it is within reason. The main concern is that there is dependency which makes it a necessity for all characters present to be used.


    The second part of this regulation applies to NPCs. NPCs are allowed, but are not able to be used in official gladiator battles. Otherwise, there are no particular regulations relating to these characters; because they're not gladiators, the don't need to be moderated nearly as much.

    4. Ability to be Defeated
    Possibly the most important regulation, a character must be able to be defeated within reason. While it is no problem to have specific weaknesses, they cannot be the only way in which a character can be stopped. If your character can only be defeated through performing specific actions, or using a certain type of ability, then the combat options for the opponent become vastly limited, as well as one's options for opponents in general. Having an opponent who, unless shot in a specific part of the body is unstoppable is no fun for an unarmed character, or one who uses fire; they've no actual way of winning, bar avoiding fighting to begin with. Using Manny Ken as an example, despite having the specific weaknesses of being flammable and only being able to be killed through the total destruction of the head, he can still be stopped in combat since he's just a living mannequin. Normal humans, demons, angels, aliens, monsters, all manner of character stand a reasonable chance of winning in a battle. Even Superman can be defeated without Kryptonite or magic, despite the difficulties in accomplishing such.





    Blatantly breaking any of these regulations will result in a character not being classified as a gladiator, and therefore being ineligible for official battles or recognition within the Hall of Warriors. This said, there is a level of subjectivity to each of these regulations, which reinforces the need for the community to decide whether or not they believe a character works. If a character is a high level fire user and able to burn everything, this doesn't necessarily mean they're breaking the first regulation, so long as the community deems it is properly justified/utilized. Refusal to fix characters who a majority of the community deem poor or who blatantly break regulation after a period of three weeks from posting/the last edit will be binned.

    *This list of regulations is subject to changes as is seen fit by moderators relating to the section, though community consensus may lead to the addition, removal, or adjustment of present regulations.


    AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT RULES.
    THESE ARE REGULATIONS.
    THEY NEED NOT BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED. THEY EXIST TO ALLOW USERS A WINDOW TO CHANGE PUBLIC OPINION BEFORE ANY MODS STEP IN.
    Last edited by Azure; 11-21-2016 at 10:01 AM.

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    I'm fine with everything except the no NPCs in fights. Personally, I'd rather that more be something discussed between the two battling each other, or at least having them be allowed to a minor extent. Like, the police getting involved if it hit the fan in a city, or other people in a bar fight, or even use their assault as motivation for the battle.

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    The no NPC fighting regulation relates more to directly made characterized NPCs directly influencing the flow of battle. If for example you have some gal who wields a railgun snipe at your opponent from a distance, this is not ok. Having police show up and order people to put their hands in the air is less of a concern due to their nature as NPCs, as well as the actual threat they're able to put up against a majority of gladiators.

    Feel free to use NPCs for story, not for advantages is what I hope gets across here.

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    Flow meaning throught the battle, or are hiccups acceptable? Similarly, the deal with endings. Like, let's say Mike is my gladiator and Betty is his wife. My battle starts with my oppenent getting into a car wreck with them, at with point it's Mike vs them, but at the end when Mike's about to eat it, Betty shoots them in the face with the gun in the glove compartment. Since she only affected the ending, and it's done primarily for storylinr character development between the two, is this the type of thing that would or wouldn't be acceptable?

    I can see there being an issue of it becoming a reoccuring thing, like if Betty afterwards was always in his corner with a glock, but I stand by other character involvement should be agreed upon by the writers.

    Or, if Betty can't shoot my opponent, can Mike be runover by someone I'm introducing and end the fight that way?
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    Crank brought up a good point. Certain things should be an agreement between writers, rather than subject to the whims of a majority. If two people agree to a battle, then who cares if one (or both!) characters "break guidelines?" If it's their battle, and their stories, let them fight it, and let them tell their stories.

    I am also planning to look at our list of gladiators to get an idea of which ones would technically already break these guidelines, if not for them having already been accepted by the community. "The Handyman" is one. The "Doctor and The Fixer" are another. Certainly, there are more. Yet I myself am currently working with both of these wRHGs. Azure himself has waged a clan war against the latter of these wRHGs (and little old me). Zalgo, Azure's clanmate, is arguably on or near the same level as Handy. The application and implementation of these guidelines demands further review by the community these guidelines have the potential to impact. This should be visibly self-evident.

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    I dislike Rule 3 *read dislike as have a hatred for that outburns the furious fires of Hell and the denizens of Rageland
    The rest of it seems HIGHLY sensible (although, yeah. How does one do things with the no-NPCS?).
    *proceeds to go rage abominably in a corner at the fact that one of my perfectly planned (read as ACTUALLY DECENT) chars will be forced to stop being a wRHG and therefore you can't use them (I would explain, but there isn't any need)
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    Handy and Z are more mindgames than brawlers (I think), but I don't think the Fixer and Doc should get a pass. Should've spoken up when it initally game up, but I guess I just expected someone else would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 969_DoomsDruid_969 View Post
    (I would explain, but there isn't any need)
    Actually, Dooms- your input would be very much appreciated. As I understand, it was the issues surrounding your character's (highly contested) introduction to the wRHG community that have led to our current state of declared unrest. I don't mean to pry, but if you don't mind going into detail, what are your thoughts on all of this? From when you started out with Alex, through the editing process, and to now, with your choice to completely overhaul your original character and begin anew- what was your experience like? And what can we do to make the experience better for new users like yourself? Our goal is to make sure everyone gets what they want out of wRHG.

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    Hmm...I guess this calls for an alteration of my chars.

    I suppose I was pushing the boundaries. Then again, really, since creating David I've only used Altaer in a battle once. I'll edit and demote Altaer to an NPC affiliated with my organization/clan.

    I will retain Altaer's character page, though, since that will remain relevant to non-battle pieces such as collabs and storyline Olit works.
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    First off... MY VIEW COUNTS?
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    Second, my view is simple. One is good. Very good.
    Two is kind of obvious if you are good at char design, but fair enough.
    Three should be a LIMIT of chars (on one thread as to not take up space). Like three. Or something. That's my opinion. probably shit but whatever.
    Four is... difficult to define IMO but ok.
    Thirdly Malacal will respond after this shitty comment

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