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    What I can say is that, rating is never a proper adjustment for skills for a high ranked player
    It can only give a general picture of level of a player, but not details.

    Just like in the past, some very top players , who deserved to be top 5 , but they never appeared in top 5 of leaderboard , including Rain, chaos0176, Curiousturtle , Tai, Spartanotaku
    And many 2.2k-2.3k players like pricey, Ai, DAZ, masteraik did not have a rating that really suits their level as well.

    The reason they are low in rank is just that they don't rank much. I am sure within the current top 20 players, at least half of them should be kicked out of their places if the old players are more active.

    And also when the rating gets higher and higher, it is very difficult to find someone to play with, and especially after 2.4k, we can only get 1-2 points at most in most the matches.
    So the one who spent more time in this game can actually get more rating.

    To be honest, I cannot deny the fact pumu had once got to no1 with elemental after he farmed truthful and miscrits. But in terms of skills , I can definitely say he is not no1 .

    Yes, pumu elemental skill is a top 3 one , but not for order or chaos
    Keep in mind elemental is unbalanced for half year, and up till now there are still some flaws. That is why accounts like Froz3nFury2 or GoTreesOrGoHome could skyrocket with elemental within a few days.
    And I won pumu like 30 times when he used order or chaos.

    For all players I have ever played, I can say Wyzdm is still no doubt the only one who deserves "no1" , no arguement needed.
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    second to last line is very humble....
    i farmed lots of peeps besides them. i think u only saw those with truthful and miscrits.
    there were a bunch of other chaos peeps too.
    khan got back on today.
    im sure without his rust he couldve beaten me.... maybe.
    everyone is complaining about the ele nerfs but i dont feel as if it really affected me much.
    im not sure in what aspect you think my skill is lacking.
    for the two empires ive barely started to use again i wouldnt expect anything else but to lose every now and again.
    i believe that half the games ive played with you were short maps XD.
    havent once seen me and you on GH
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterybat View Post
    What I can say is that, rating is never a proper adjustment for skills for a high ranked player
    It can only give a general picture of level of a player, but not details.

    Just like in the past, some very top players , who deserved to be top 5 , but they never appeared in top 5 of leaderboard , including Rain, chaos0176, Curiousturtle , Tai, Spartanotaku
    And many 2.2k-2.3k players like pricey, Ai, DAZ, masteraik did not have a rating that really suits their level as well.

    The reason they are low in rank is just that they don't rank much. I am sure within the current top 20 players, at least half of them should be kicked out of their places if the old players are more active.

    And also when the rating gets higher and higher, it is very difficult to find someone to play with, and especially after 2.4k, we can only get 1-2 points at most in most the matches.
    So the one who spent more time in this game can actually get more rating.

    To be honest, I cannot deny the fact pumu had once got to no1 with elemental after he farmed truthful and miscrits. But in terms of skills , I can definitely say he is not no1 .

    Yes, pumu elemental skill is a top 3 one , but not for order or chaos
    Keep in mind elemental is unbalanced for half year, and up till now there are still some flaws. That is why accounts like Froz3nFury2 or GoTreesOrGoHome could skyrocket with elemental within a few days.
    And I won pumu like 30 times when he used order or chaos.

    For all players I have ever played, I can say Wyzdm is still no doubt the only one who deserves "no1" , no arguement needed.
    You are quite right with everything you said. However, just because pumu is number one with elementals and not other empires doesn't mean he isn't number one, right? We can take spartanotaku for example, let's say he reached top 5 with order, but his chaos he would drop down very low right? But does that mean his skill level isn't top 5?

    Also pumu, I think you should be a bit more humble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsophast View Post
    You are quite right with everything you said. However, just because pumu is number one with elementals and not other empires doesn't mean he isn't number one, right? We can take spartanotaku for example, let's say he reached top 5 with order, but his chaos he would drop down very low right? But does that mean his skill level isn't top 5?

    Also pumu, I think you should be a bit more humble.
    Did you see I say wyzdm is no1?

    The reason he is real no1 , is that he is the only who can play every empire very good with a top3 skills
    And that shows how talented and all-rounded he is with every empire

    Also you don't really know about spartan. He did not have membership, and this forced him to play order. But if he has chance to have chaos or elemental, I am sure he can get to top10 , or top 5 within one month.
    A player who can master order or chaos , generally has higher chance to master other empires , because they have more micro experience .
    But in contrast, a player who can master elemental, may be bad in other empires due to lack of micro skills. I don't see more than 5 elemental players in this community can play elemental well but at the same time play order or chaos well.

    For me, I can only play order or elemental well , but my chaos is only 2.2-2.3k level in classic though I am good in dm.
    And I faced wyzdm before, I have won his order or elemental quite a lot of times, but I never won his chaos even once.

    Even wyzdm is no longer in no1 position, but his skill is the so called number one.

    Also I fought pumu with elemental many times in ranked EvE , so that is why I can say he is "good", but not the "best". You can say he was once the "best " in terms of rating

    Quote Originally Posted by PUMU View Post
    second to last line is very humble....
    i farmed lots of peeps besides them. i think u only saw those with truthful and miscrits.
    there were a bunch of other chaos peeps too.
    khan got back on today.
    im sure without his rust he couldve beaten me.... maybe.
    everyone is complaining about the ele nerfs but i dont feel as if it really affected me much.
    im not sure in what aspect you think my skill is lacking.
    for the two empires ive barely started to use again i wouldnt expect anything else but to lose every now and again.
    i believe that half the games ive played with you were short maps XD.
    havent once seen me and you on GH
    that is why I hate short map so much. And I guess you forgot the time when I was a newbie, I fought you with ninjalbow in GH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterybat View Post
    Did you see I say wyzdm is no1?

    The reason he is real no1 , is that he is the only who can play every empire very good with a top3 skills
    And that shows how talented and all-rounded he is with every empire

    Also you don't really know about spartan. He did not have membership, and this forced him to play order. But if he has chance to have chaos or elemental, I am sure he can get to top10 , or top 5 within one month.
    A player who can master order or chaos , generally has higher chance to master other empires , because they have more micro experience .
    But in contrast, a player who can master elemental, may be bad in other empires due to lack of micro skills. I don't see more than 5 elemental players in this community can play elemental well but at the same time play order or chaos well.

    For me, I can only play order or elemental well , but my chaos is only 2.2-2.3k level in classic though I am good in dm.
    And I faced wyzdm before, I have won his order or elemental quite a lot of times, but I never won his chaos even once.

    Even wyzdm is no longer in no1 position, but his skill is the so called number one.

    Also I fought pumu with elemental many times in ranked EvE , so that is why I can say he is "good", but not the "best". You can say he was once the "best " in terms of rating



    that is why I hate short map so much. And I guess you forgot the time when I was a newbie, I fought you with ninjalbow in GH.
    I'm not talking about WyzDM, of course he's the best. You're totally missing my point.

    And I'm not saying I know spartan, I'm just saying his skills in order are very good but if he played any membership empires he would surely lose. So now you're saying with practice he will get very good and you're right. So if pumu played other empires more often he will probably get good with them too.

    You're right about the skill level thing though, anyone who can be number 1 with all empires is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsophast View Post
    I'm not talking about WyzDM, of course he's the best. You're totally missing my point.

    And I'm not saying I know spartan, I'm just saying his skills in order are very good but if he played any membership empires he would surely lose. So now you're saying with practice he will get very good and you're right. So if pumu played other empires more often he will probably get good with them too.

    You're right about the skill level thing though, anyone who can be number 1 with all empires is the best.
    I suggest you to know more about a specific player before you talk about him
    I knew spartan for more than half year in SE, and I definitely know how good he is

    And seems that you don't know he recently got a membership account and he is now playing all three empires. Your claim of "surely lose" without knowing about him does not make sense at all.
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    well.
    ive actually been messing around with chaos for a bit now.
    been pretty fun.
    short maps are fun and challenging but kinda of stupid to play as your crawlers have limited kiting space to heal in between attacks.

    now keep in mind i don't main chaos and have barely been using it for like a week.
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    different person
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    http://www.stickempires.com/play?rep...8&version=2.17

    not sure who this is at all
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    second time ever playing dm with chaos
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    ( i still think dm sucks)

    cvo truthful
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    followed by ele
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    I'm slowly getting pieces here and there
    Khan came back
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    Okay, so you guys are waaaay off topic, and the op's question has already been answered.

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