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Feb 17, 2017 3:19 AM #1476010
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Seriously?


Note that I did say he had more of those things.

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I should have just kept my mouth shut.


To be fair, you literally asked for this. case in point below.

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So any CNC other than I want to fight someone again
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Feb 17, 2017 3:21 AM #1476012
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I should have just kept my mouth shut.


I'm not taking it personally with you, I am simply pointing out the flaws of your story.

What you wish to do after is up to you. But you cannot keep passing off first draft things forever. When you are done fighting for fun and want to seriously start writing well, you'll know what to do

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Note that I did say he had more of those things.


Implying that Mark had less? Sorry. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that you have hazy judgement.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:21 AM #1476013
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I'm not taking it personally with you, I am simply pointing out the flaws of your story.

What you wish to do after is up to you. But you cannot keep passing off first draft things forever. When you are done fighting for fun and want to seriously start writing well, you'll know what to do


Dude you're missing the point. If not for fun, why are any of us here? One thing i do agree with though is that I don't think they should have rushed.

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Implying that Mark had less? Sorry. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that you have hazy judgement.


Okay I admit the judgement is a bit hazy given how similar they are. But yes, I do see a difference and Piston's seems a bit better to me. (No offense meant to you Saniyea. It was a pretty decent first fight.)
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Feb 17, 2017 3:39 AM #1476014
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Dude you're missing the point. If not for fun, why are any of us here? One thing i do agree with though is that I don't think they should have rushed.


I think its pretty selfish and close-minded to believe that Fun can only be defined one way.

Of course there is fun in battling. But there is also fun in writing. And writing well. So I am simply telling Piston to enjoy one and giving him tips to enjoy the other.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:46 AM #1476015
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I think its pretty selfish and close-minded to believe that Fun can only be defined one way.

Of course there is fun in battling. But there is also fun in writing. And writing well. So I am simply telling Piston to enjoy one and giving him tips to enjoy the other.


You have a good point there.

I'm still not changing my mind about my vote though. Honestly, it makes a lot more sense if you've read Steam's profile. (Though you shouldn't have to. Word of advice to you Piston, don't assume people know what you're talking about.)
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Feb 17, 2017 3:47 AM #1476016
That is your opinion to make. But I am here to critique and that is what was asked
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Feb 17, 2017 12:30 PM #1476035
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I should have just kept my mouth shut.


A newbie simply does not ask for CnC from Hew. :D
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Feb 17, 2017 2:54 PM #1476044
I'll keep that in mind. Also Hew This was put together in an hour or two.
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Feb 17, 2017 3:17 PM #1476048
You know, the least bit you could do is just say "I'll keep that in mind. Your observations are noted. Thank you." or maybe even "You're kind of a dick, but you have a point." or "I accept your comments" in the most basic neutral way possible.

But no. Some shred of you still believes whatever you submitted on this thread needs to be justified. You have to somehow feel that I have to lessen the blow just a little bit because you:

...rushed this.
...did it in a day because life.
...had no time but didn't want to submit nothing so here it is.
...not writing to be good, but writing for fun anyway.

You know, and I'm sorry but this isn't just you but every newb ever who's ever said this: It doesn't matter the circumstances behind your draft. The fact is, there are things wrong with it and I am pointing them out. The CNC is not an attack on your ability as a writer, but a stab at your written work. Never mind you asked for critique, never mind you rushed it. Those notions have no weight on the fact that what you wrote was pretty bad.

Is what you wrote pretty bad? Yes.
Does it mean that you're a bad writer? That remains to be seen. So far, its a 1:1 Bad Ratio but that doesn't really say anything about you.
Does it mean that if you didn't rush it it would look better? Perhaps. But more importantly, perhaps not. A work from the future or a work that doesn't exist cannot be critiqued.

So yeah, I don't care that you rushed it. I called it as I see it. It's up to you if you want to take it personally.


Also...ignore comments like these:

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A newbie simply does not ask for CnC from Hew. :D



These people see me cnc and they think "Oh Hewitt's gonna pwn him". Stop it. You think I love tearing things down? I love joking about bad writing, but wouldn't it be swell to see people get better too.
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Feb 17, 2017 4:08 PM #1476051
Well everything went to shit pretty quick while I was gone
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Feb 17, 2017 4:16 PM #1476052
Any CnC's good CnC, thanks again Hewitt. ^_^
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Feb 17, 2017 4:58 PM #1476058
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Well everything went to shit pretty quick while I was gone


Not really, Hewitt is a bit stern and we have disagreeing points, but I doubt there's any animosity involved.
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Feb 17, 2017 5:13 PM #1476059
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Well everything went to shit pretty quick while I was gone


You mean it didn't already go to shit when someone decided to have a split personality
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Feb 17, 2017 5:56 PM #1476060
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You mean it didn't already go to shit when someone decided to have a split personality


Lol you seem to be a pretty intense person.
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Feb 17, 2017 7:38 PM #1476064
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These people see me cnc and they think "Oh Hewitt's gonna pwn him". Stop it. You think I love tearing things down? I love joking about bad writing, but wouldn't it be swell to see people get better too.


Heh, not pwn, nor tear things down. It's just that you are willing to say more than most people, an admirably quality. Just one that is very...blunt. I, personally, have no problem with this. That was said in humor.

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