Theoretical Debate - Black Holes

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Sep 22, 2008 11:33 AM #259215
Okay, we all know that blacks holes suck in everything, which includes the electromagnetic spectrum. This then means that the escape velocity for a black hole is greater then the speed of light, which we also know is impossible as time stops relatively when the speed of light is reached.

So how do black hole emit radiation? As wouldn't that mean either the black hole has bent space completely around it and folded it or that the radiation being emitted from it is traveling faster then the speed of light?
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Sep 22, 2008 12:29 PM #259224
Black holes are one of those things we haven't really figured out yet.
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Sep 22, 2008 12:30 PM #259226
It's really quite simple. The radiation's trajectory simply has to be perpendicular in all directions to the black hole.

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Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM #259247
Yes Ash, but if it can exist perpendicular to a specific tangent to the black hole, which would mean that it would fall back into the black hole from another tangent.
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Sep 23, 2008 5:12 PM #260109
How do they emit radiation?

They don't emit much, unless you mean gravity, which we still don't understand, just like the rest of it all.


Though we might get some subtle clues when they finish LHC, which in about 30 years some random guy nobody's heard of will read and gain some amazing insight about how the universe works.


You might know him already.
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Sep 23, 2008 5:28 PM #260115
What?
Is that gonna be you?

Cool.. =)
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Sep 23, 2008 9:30 PM #260225
According to Stephen Hawking they emit a certain type of radiation, hence why the ones that the LHC is going to create aren't going to be a problem for us, as they aren't sucking in enough matter to sustain the amount of energy that they are giving off.
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Sep 23, 2008 11:09 PM #260274
Aww man, and I thought this was going to be on race!

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Sep 23, 2008 11:11 PM #260276
Quote from Steyene
Yes Ash, but if it can exist perpendicular to a specific tangent to the black hole, which would mean that it would fall back into the black hole from another tangent.


Exactly. The only place they can leave from is that exact tangent, but the same would apply if it were being emitted in any other direction from the center.

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According to Steven Hawkins they emit a certain type of radiation, hence why the ones that the LHC is going to create aren't going to be a problem for us, as they aren't sucking in enough matter to sustain the amount of energy that they are giving off.


Stephen Hawking.

Why do so many people get that wrong?
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Sep 24, 2008 2:06 AM #260392
Quote from Steyene
Steven Hawkins



Lol ....
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Sep 24, 2008 2:52 AM #260449
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Exactly. The only place they can leave from is that exact tangent, but the same would apply if it were being emitted in any other direction from the center.



Stephen Hawking.

Why do so many people get that wrong?


Because if you sound out stephen, it sounds like steven
and steven is a name.

the hawkins part? no idea.
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Sep 24, 2008 3:24 AM #260481
Sush, but yeah I though it was wrong. Also Ash, a sphere has a shitload of tangents, and if energy is emitted from the exact center of every tangent then the entire black hole is emitting energy.