Do people need god?

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Feb 25, 2008 5:38 AM #85359
Man must need religion otherwise it would not be such a common invention in all great and remaining civilizations.

They must need religion because seeing as it is so illogical and there is no reason for it man must need religion. What I'm trying to say is that since there's no physical proof/evidence for religion, so for it to be such a common invention all over the world it must be needed.

Git it?

There's also a book called, I think, "The God Brain" which discusses if man has the need for god wired into their brain.
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Feb 25, 2008 7:43 AM #85373
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Man must need religion otherwise it would not be such a common invention in all great and remaining civilizations.


'It exists, therefor it must be needed.' Thats a logical fallacy I'm pretty sure.

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There's also a book called, I think, "The God Brain" which discusses if man has the need for god wired into their brain.


Sounds like propaganda to me.
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Feb 25, 2008 2:25 PM #85392
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Man must need religion otherwise it would not be such a common invention in all great and remaining civilizations.

They must need religion because seeing as it is so illogical and there is no reason for it man must need religion. What I'm trying to say is that since there's no physical proof/evidence for religion, so for it to be such a common invention all over the world it must be needed.

So you're saying that since it's so illogical and senseless, it MUST be needed?
Okay, penis shaped toilets are illogical. Does it mean they must be needed?
Don't say yes. Because I know you will. <.<
Your argument doesn't really have a support.

Git it?
Nope, sorry.
There's also a book called, I think, "The God Brain" which discusses if man has the need for god wired into their brain.

Will look for it on the Internet perhaps, there are rare books from the US or UK in my puny country.
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Feb 25, 2008 2:58 PM #85394
I don't think religion is commone because people are naturally spiritual, I think it's because they are curious, and want to explain nature but lack the scientific power to do so. The greeks said that eathquakes were made by Poseidon, and the Christians belive that everything was caused by their God.
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Feb 25, 2008 4:10 PM #85396
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I don't think religion is commone because people are naturally spiritual, I think it's because they are curious, and want to explain nature but lack the scientific power to do so. The greeks said that eathquakes were made by Poseidon, and the Christians belive that everything was caused by their God.

What do you mean by "everything?"
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Feb 25, 2008 4:51 PM #85399
I have to admit, I too am curious about this. Mind explaining, Ash?

But first I must say that there is a difference between ancient Greeks and modern believers.

Also, I think that if we research the meaning of the god to the man, maybe we can find the answer.
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Feb 25, 2008 5:20 PM #85404
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We have needed god in the early ages for all creation.Man, this is my opinion, DO need god.No god, no order, therfor all of us would go to hell.And i your a complete reataurd who thinks " ZOMG YOU COULD ASK FER LIKE FORGINES EN STUF!" than tell me this.Ask who?


We just got pwned.

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Feb 25, 2008 9:18 PM #85424
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and the Christians believe that everything was caused by their God.

I don't believe thats right. The Christians I know don't believe everything is caused by god. Since 'everything' would include the bad, and god is the representation of all that is good.
Actually, I think a lot of Christians believe problems rose up after the fall at eden, when sin was first brought into the world through the first act of disobedience by Adam. Which would be their explanation of diseases, unwanted death, etc.
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Feb 26, 2008 1:20 AM #85488
I didn't mean it in that way, I meant that the creation of the world and it's order were caused by God.
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Feb 26, 2008 3:42 AM #85517
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Will look for it on the Internet perhaps, there are rare books from the US or UK in my puny country.


Yes Penis Shaped Toilets are illogical but does every single great civilization all accross the world have them? No, in fact, hopefully, none of them do.

What I'm saying is that religion is not like a flood. Lots of civilizations have floods, so they build flood protection. Because it is naturally occuring and occurs all over.

But religion has no basis whatsoever in any sort of physical common occurence, yet it is common to the whole world. So the need for God must be wired into man's brain, not put there by outside forces. Like a flood.

Does that make sense?
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Feb 26, 2008 3:48 AM #85519
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Yes Penis Shaped Toilets are illogical but does every single great civilization all accross the world have them? No, in fact, hopefully, none of them do.

What I'm saying is that religion is not like a flood. Lots of civilizations have floods, so they build flood protection. Because it is naturally occuring and occurs all over.

But religion has no basis whatsoever in any sort of physical common occurence, yet it is common to the whole world. So the need for God must be wired into man's brain, not put there by outside forces. Like a flood.

Does that make sense?


I've already argued against that.
http://www.stickpageportal.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1178269&postcount=34

We have religion out of a desire to explain the universe. It's the same reason we have science.
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Feb 26, 2008 3:50 AM #85520
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Isn't god just an idea of good, perfect and just in a disguise?


Good just has an extra o.
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Feb 26, 2008 4:19 AM #85527
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I've already argued against that.
http://www.stickpageportal.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1178269&postcount=34

We have religion out of a desire to explain the universe. It's the same reason we have science.


You're being very simple minded if you think that that is the sole reason for religion.

I'll let you figure that one out for yourself.
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Feb 26, 2008 4:38 AM #85531
It's the sole reason for the formation of religion. People don't think "Hmm, we need a way to get people not to murder each other, let's say that Zues doesn't like it." they say "Where does that lightning come from? Maybe a man throws it from the sky?"
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Feb 26, 2008 4:41 AM #85533
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It's the sole reason for the formation of religion. People don't think "Hmm, we need a way to get people not to murder each other, let's say that Zues doesn't like it." they say "Where does that lightning come from? Maybe a man throws it from the sky?"


More like "Oh wise shaman. Why does light fall from the sky?", "Uh...ZEUS! ZEUS IS THE GOD OF LIGHTNING! FEAR ZEUS!"

It's the primitive smartass' answer to all questions.