Let's Hop on the SPP Religious Intolerance Bandwagon

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Oct 28, 2008 5:55 AM #281878
Every religion and every belief in the world is just some made up shit. The truth is, nobody knows whether there is or isn't a God, or what happens when you die, or if there are parallel universes, etc.

To truly believe in a religion is just plain stupid. The universe and everything in it is so complex that we mere humans from a tiny little speck called Earth cannot even begin to comprehend it. We don't know shit. Nobody knows whether there are a trillion other galaxies where there is life, or if our entire galaxy is just an atom of a speck of dust floating in space. There could be an infinite number of universes and shit. Where do we even go when we die? Have we already lived other lives from other universes and reincarnated as ourselves here on Earth? Do we even exist? Is every moment in time just a copy of what already happened in another galaxy? Why are we here, and where would we be if we weren't here? What created the universe, and why? What was it like before there was a universe? Does the universe go on forever? What is our purpose? Is there some way to teleport to other galaxies just by using mind power that we haven't yet unlocked? Will the universe last forever? We know our basic colors like red and blue and green, but are there other colors that humans cannot even see? Are there things living among us that are invisible? What is the meaning of life?

Anyways, what I'm getting at, is how mind-blowing the universe and everything is. I don't belive that us mere humans with our finite amount of brain power can even comprehend what is going on. The only way I belive we can get anywhere, is if we approach these questions scientifically.

I don't think beliveing that there is a fatass buhdah in the sky who makes rain, or that a guy named jesus has divine power, is very productive. It's almost embarassing, it's just some stupid fictional little storytale that has been passed on from generation to generation (which by the way, isn't a long time at all compared to the age of the universe). I also don't think atheists are all that smart for just assuming that there is no God, I don't think it's really fair to rule that out.

So basically, I just think religion is stupid. I assume that when you believe in a certain religion, you don't doubt that it's actually wrong. You pretty much say, "Yep. God and Jesus exist, and I'm going to heaven when I die." Considering all of the infinte amount of possibilities for the creation of the universe, what the **** makes you think that's right. You are out of your ****ing mind.

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Oct 28, 2008 5:57 AM #281880
Yep. God and Jesus exist, and I'm going to heaven when I die.
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Oct 28, 2008 6:08 AM #281884
My point in a breath:

You said it yourself. Humans have limited understanding of everything. We have barely conquered our solar system. I don't think you have the authority to tell people what they can or can't believe until you yourself know the answer. It's like telling people they can't create a theory to explain something.
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Oct 28, 2008 6:13 AM #281887
They can go ahead and belive it, but i think it's stupid for them to actually think they are right considering all of the possilbe explanations. It just seems silly to adopt something that really has no concrete evidence and just mindlessly go to church or whatever, since most people don't really do any real research, they just assume it's true.

Who knows, maybe Jesus and Buduh do exist, but where's the evidence? I'm saying we really don't have evidence on anything, so I don't think we should live our lives thinking we know the answer. I'm admitting that I don't know the answer, but I can still tell people that they don't know the answer either.
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Oct 28, 2008 6:17 AM #281888
The only religious evidence has to do with Buddhism. It's been found that the consciousness might be an electromagnetic field, and when one dies, the electromagnetic field moves with the energy into something else, which parallels the recycling of souls as said in Buddhism.
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Oct 28, 2008 7:01 AM #281905
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Every religion and every belief in the world is just some made up shit.

Correction, pretty much everything you can possibly think of is made up. The boundaries of a country, the value of money, pretty much anything that can be measured isn't really being measured.

The truth is, nobody knows whether there is or isn't a God, or what happens when you die, or if there are parallel universes, etc.

Your point? I don't think anyone is claiming to really know any of those.

To truly believe in a religion is just plain stupid.

A religion is similar to a moral code, are morals stupid?

The universe and everything in it is so complex that we mere humans from a tiny little speck called Earth cannot even begin to comprehend it.

That's true, but we can throw numbers all over the place and pretend that we do. What's your point?

We don't know shit.

Ah, that must have been your point. How boring.

Nobody knows whether there are a trillion other galaxies where there is life, or if our entire galaxy is just an atom of a speck of dust floating in space.

Well a lot of that stuff can be seen through a powerful telescope. There's no reason for doubting that... try looking at NASA.gov

There could be an infinite number of universes and shit.

Sophisticated argument. Sounds like your delving into string theory.

Where do we even go when we die?

Well, i know part of us at least goes into the ground.

Have we already lived other lives from other universes and reincarnated as ourselves here on Earth? Do we even exist?

Sure feels like it.

Is every moment in time just a copy of what already happened in another galaxy?

No.

Why are we here, and where would we be if we weren't here?

To ask 50 million questions apparently.

What created the universe, and why?

Uhm, maybe somoene, maybe noone.

What was it like before there was a universe?

Very Boring...

Does the universe go on forever?

Don't know.

What is our purpose?

To consume other living creatures until we die.

Is there some way to teleport to other galaxies just by using mind power that we haven't yet unlocked?

No, we're using 100% of our brain. That old theory was wrong.

Will the universe last forever?

Not according to scientists.

We know our basic colors like red and blue and green, but are there other colors that humans cannot even see?

Probably, there are colors dogs can't see.

Are there things living among us that are invisible?

Yeah, Microorganisms.

What is the meaning of life?

You've asked this like six times already.

Anyways, what I'm getting at, is how mind-blowing the universe and everything is. I don't believe that us mere humans with our finite amount of brain power can even comprehend what is going on. The only way I believe we can get anywhere, is if we approach these questions scientifically.

Uhm. We are.


I don't think believing that there is a fatass Buddha in the sky who makes rain, or that a guy named Jesus has divine power, is very productive. It's almost embarrassing, it's just some stupid fictional little story tale that has been passed on from generation to generation (which by the way, isn't a long time at all compared to the age of the universe). I also don't think atheists are all that smart for just assuming that there is no God, I don't think it's really fair to rule that out.

Uhm, well generally speaking you'll find that most religions have moral fibers sewed into their intricate belief system. As far as I'm concerned every religion has it's own merit (well.. most of them) and generally speaking have something good to say to keep people in check. Nevertheless, that may not be their sole purpose, but like the 50 or so questions you just mindlessly asked, we don't know the answers therefore none of it can be ruled out. Just because you can't scientifically prove something doesn't rule it out. Likewise, if you believe you can prove something, that doesn't necessarily make it truth because the unfortunate reality is "truth" is a relative term relating to popular belief. If majority believes that gravity exists because one man made a compelling argument makes it truth. If everyone disputed this fact it would lose it's power as a fact, even if the evidence was so clear that it could not be denied.


So basically, I just think religion is stupid. I assume that when you believe in a certain religion, you don't doubt that it's actually wrong. You pretty much say, "Yep. God and Jesus exist, and I'm going to heaven when I die." Considering all of the infinite amount of possibilities for the creation of the universe, what the **** makes you think that's right. You are out of your ****ing mind.

This one's easy. Nobody believes that to the extent you may think they do. That's why it's called a faith and not a truth.


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I work with what you give me.




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Oct 28, 2008 7:05 AM #281908
OP's post is the most ignorant and generalising I've ever read. For all of those points Frozen already stated. I would make a wall post, but my post would be ignored anyway, as usual ...
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Oct 28, 2008 7:07 AM #281910
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OP's post is the most ignorant and generalising I've ever read. For all of those points Frozen already stated. I would make a wall post, but my post would be ignored anyway, as usual ...


I don't ignore your posts. Take that.

You usually got a lot of good stuff to say. If even one person walks away changed slightly from reading what you've had to say, you've made a difference.



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Oct 28, 2008 7:08 AM #281911
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Every religion and every belief in the world is just some made up shit. The truth is, nobody knows whether there is or isn't a God, or what happens when you die, or if there are parallel universes, etc.

To truly believe in a religion is just plain stupid. The universe and everything in it is so complex that we mere humans from a tiny little speck called Earth cannot even begin to comprehend it. We don't know shit. Nobody knows whether there are a trillion other galaxies where there is life, or if our entire galaxy is just an atom of a speck of dust floating in space. There could be an infinite number of universes and shit. Where do we even go when we die? Have we already lived other lives from other universes and reincarnated as ourselves here on Earth? Do we even exist? Is every moment in time just a copy of what already happened in another galaxy? Why are we here, and where would we be if we weren't here? What created the universe, and why? What was it like before there was a universe? Does the universe go on forever? What is our purpose? Is there some way to teleport to other galaxies just by using mind power that we haven't yet unlocked? Will the universe last forever? We know our basic colors like red and blue and green, but are there other colors that humans cannot even see? Are there things living among us that are invisible? What is the meaning of life?

Anyways, what I'm getting at, is how mind-blowing the universe and everything is. I don't belive that us mere humans with our finite amount of brain power can even comprehend what is going on. The only way I belive we can get anywhere, is if we approach these questions scientifically.

I don't think beliveing that there is a fatass buhdah in the sky who makes rain, or that a guy named jesus has divine power, is very productive. It's almost embarassing, it's just some stupid fictional little storytale that has been passed on from generation to generation (which by the way, isn't a long time at all compared to the age of the universe). I also don't think atheists are all that smart for just assuming that there is no God, I don't think it's really fair to rule that out.

So basically, I just think religion is stupid. I assume that when you believe in a certain religion, you don't doubt that it's actually wrong. You pretty much say, "Yep. God and Jesus exist, and I'm going to heaven when I die." Considering all of the infinte amount of possibilities for the creation of the universe, what the **** makes you think that's right. You are out of your ****ing mind.

Discuss...


OMG I'm glad someone made a thread about this. I will discuss...

I go to a catholic high school, we go to church every term and to top it all off, we do a religion lesson for forty minutes, AND I AM FREAKIN' SICK OF THE CRAP!
You're right muttonhead, religion sucks.
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Oct 28, 2008 7:12 AM #281914
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OMG I'm glad someone made a thread about this. I will discuss...

I go to a catholic high school, we go to church every term and to top it all off, we do a religion lesson for forty minutes, AND I AM FREAKIN' SICK OF THE CRAP!
You're right muttonhead, religion sucks.


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Oct 28, 2008 7:19 AM #281918
I think organized religion is silly, but Frozen is right. We can't know for sure whether God exists and stuff.

I also agree with Mantha.
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Oct 28, 2008 7:38 AM #281924
Quote from j.b-2
OMG I'm glad someone made a thread about this. I will discuss...

I go to a catholic high school, we go to church every term and to top it all off, we do a religion lesson for forty minutes, AND I AM FREAKIN' SICK OF THE CRAP!
You're right muttonhead, religion sucks.

First read Frozen's post. Secondly, you're not discussing anything, you're just drawing conclusions from your personaly life. And that's not really debating.

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Oct 28, 2008 7:57 AM #281936
My View on religion:


  • Religion is a crutch, and one size does not fit all
  • It does help people, and so do painkillers, you shouldn't go overboard with either.
  • To each his own, and nobody needs to give me mine.
  • Spirituality/Religion isn't a black/white issue. Grey scale as **** lol.
  • Christianity (at least in the US) angers me. It has/is been/being forced on me since I was a child. It isn't for me, and because of that I can never have some peoples full respect.
  • If you have to go to church, listen to the shit. There are some good lessons in there, just have a brain and throw out the garbage.
  • Evangelicals/Pentecostals are insane, deceitful, false prophets. I remember being "taught" to speak in tongues in 4th grade. I was dizzy from all the yelling and touching, I just spewed some gibberish and this lady is BROUGHT TO TEARS because the holy ghost was in me. Or vertigo, whatever.
  • I think Buddhism has the best life lessons, with minimal bullshit. Even the off the wall stuff it teaches, has roots in natures cycles of life and death and make sense in an abstract way. (I am not very informed about the intricacies of Buddhism btw)
  • Most organized religions sound similar, why? Well most were fabricated under the influence of psychedelic/entheogenic drugs. Fly Argaric mushroom mostly, a deleriant. (Burning Bush guys)


If I had to admit that there was some higher power, I'd say it was the collective consciousness of all the organisms on earth (insert mind boggling shit about other dimensions if you'd like) working in small, unspecific ways. Thus producing the insanely intricate systems and cycles the earth holds today. Humans are self-aware, we are conscious of our own being conscious. This seems to **** things up. I do not believe there is an organism/single entity that is a divine or godlike figure. If anything it is just the shear power of cycles fractalizing into other cycles.
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Oct 28, 2008 8:09 AM #281942
Quote from j.b-2
OMG I'm glad someone made a thread about this. I will discuss...

I go to a catholic high school, we go to church every term and to top it all off, we do a religion lesson for forty minutes, AND I AM FREAKIN' SICK OF THE CRAP!
You're right muttonhead, religion sucks.


STOP POSTING
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Oct 28, 2008 8:46 AM #281946
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STOP POSTING


That struck me as hillarious.