Quote from Mantha

Okay, if this turns into another Christianity bash, I swear there will be blood.

Also, I thought the colonies then wanted to become independent because England kept raising taxes and whatnot. Not religious freedom. =/

Both. Including separation of church and state.

Anyway, these friends of your's seem to be complete assholes, but then again, they're prepubescent shitholes that think they know everything like every other soon to be 'I know that I know everything go against the establisment I know more than the administration' teenager asshole. Be bigger than these playground tit suckling babies and don't even participate in their arguments, especially around religion, which they apparently know little about.

"direct sin against god" they say as catholic priests probably rape half of them.

The colonies were made because of the Rebels going against the system. They disagreed with the duties and wanted a stronger, more powerful vote and rep by pop, I think.

Either way, it had next to nothing to do with religion.

I think your friends are completly right and gays should absolutly not be able to marry. There not humans like us and besides as your friends said we'd be going to hell for even thinking about gay marriage anyway.

Quote from Chunk

I think your friends are completly right and gays should absolutly not be able to marry. There not humans like us and besides as your friends said we'd be going to hell for even thinking about gay marriage anyway.

loooooooooooooooooool

It seems inhumane to me for those people not to have what they call a normal life but... Gay people can't procreate. The many gay couples we have the least descendants our specie has. Basically, gayness is against procreation, against future humanity. That is why it is considered a sin. Yet, it's not a sin to God or however your completely idiotic friends called it. It is, yet, something very bad, in theory. Gay people are trying to make it seem normal.

Take religion out of this here debate NOW. We have a separation of church and state, that means religion should not be ANY factor to this debate.

Speaking of which, shouldn't this be in the debate sections? o_O

Gays should have every right to marry, gays just want the same rights as straights have, when you're married you get alot of benefits, social security, insurance, etc. And think about this, lets say there is a gay couple who wishes to get married but can't and lets say one of them gets in a car accident and is about to die in the hospital, his/her spouse can not see them because its "family" only meaning that if gay marriage was allowed, he/she would be allowed to see their spouse before they died. And not only that, but what if those gays were of a different religion than christian? They should be allowed too be legally married even if christian fags say its a sin.

I couldn't care less either way. I don't see the point in marriage in general anyway. There's no difference whether you're married or not married, except that there's a special "bond" between the two of you, but in our days it's easy enough to get divorced anyway. I do, however, believe gay people should have exactly the same rights as we do, EXCEPT for having children. Imgainge what a ****ed up view on the world you would have if you were bought up by 2 gay people. Their views would be forced upon you. I suppose that's a bit like religion as well though.

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Damn you Raffeh. And by "having children" I meant having an adopted child.

Imagine how many votes they'd get against it if the men finally realized that it means lesbians too?

Quote from Jeremy

Just because someone disagrees with your life style, doesn't mean that they hate you. Jesus was a friend of the sinners, if there is any hate being put onto homosexuals, it is the fault of the people, not the belief.

Eh?
I was just putting that because his friends who seem to be really religious won't allow gays to get married.

I only read, like, the first sentence. But I still have something to say:

NO ON PROP 8!!!!!!!

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Both. Including separation of church and state.

Anyway, these friends of your's seem to be complete assholes, but then again, they're prepubescent shitholes that think they know everything like every other soon to be 'I know that I know everything go against the establisment I know more than the administration' teenager asshole. Be bigger than these playground tit suckling babies and don't even participate in their arguments, especially around religion, which they apparently know little about.

"direct sin against god" they say as catholic priests probably rape half of them.

yeah, they are conspiracy-assholes as I like to call them. They think that people are going to overrun the US, that Obama is the anti-Christ, and that I'm a hippie liberal bastard just because I'm a democrat and because I think freely, unlike them...