Wikipedia: Valid source?
Started by: NinjasRule34 | Replies: 69 | Views: 3,672
Nov 29, 2008 11:20 PM #304038
Wait, is this thread about using Wikipedia as a source of information, or is it about using it as a source in formal reports, because they're really different things.
Nov 29, 2008 11:31 PM #304046
Fist off, this is a thread debating the truthfulness and validity of the things on wikipedia. Secondly, how are they different things. Using it for a report is just a branch of the big picture of using it for information, so really they are not different things.
Nov 30, 2008 12:28 AM #304070
I don't think teachers should go in and stop people using wikipedia just like that. Sure, if you got fooled about example someone stating humans average length to be 3 meters on Wikipedia and writing that in your own work, you got problems and there is no one to blame. You knew the risk, and not reading through what the text actually say and see if it's plausible or not is really bad. Taking information from the web or a book, you must be critical about everything! So this does not at all mean that you just can go and read a book and trusting the content just like that. There are tards writing shit on papers too, don't forget that!
Wikipedia is great. Technique is obviously improving alot these day removing bad articles/edits. Just stay critical about everything you read there (as you should be about all information you read). And the more well-informed you are overall and being able to decide if the information is plausible or not.
Good disscusion! How reliable Online-sources like Wikipedia actually is interesting. Many diffrent opinions about I see.
Wikipedia is great. Technique is obviously improving alot these day removing bad articles/edits. Just stay critical about everything you read there (as you should be about all information you read). And the more well-informed you are overall and being able to decide if the information is plausible or not.
Good disscusion! How reliable Online-sources like Wikipedia actually is interesting. Many diffrent opinions about I see.
Nov 30, 2008 12:55 AM #304099
The thing is, I doubt any teachers have even gone to Wikipedia before to be able to form a valid conclusion of it. Most of them probably just here the word "edit" and instantly write it off right then and there. What's ironic is that the same teachers who preach this sentiment are the same ones who advocate asking questions and finding things out for yourself rather than being led blindly through life like a sheep.
Dec 1, 2008 7:03 AM #305159
Quote from GavelThe thing is, I doubt any teachers have even gone to Wikipedia before to be able to form a valid conclusion of it. Most of them probably just here the word "edit" and instantly write it off right then and there. What's ironic is that the same teachers who preach this sentiment are the same ones who advocate asking questions and finding things out for yourself rather than being led blindly through life like a sheep.
And how is using Wikipedia instead of other sources less sheep like? Anyways, I know my teachers at my school are computer-savvy and have definitely used Wikipedia. Most of them like it, some of them don't. None of them would tell you to use "Wikipedia Article" in your works cited page.
Dec 1, 2008 8:24 AM #305191
Quote from Keet-Soo-NayYeah, what's your point? You'd rather go to Idontknowwhatimtalkingabout.com? There are expert sites for various subjects. Either way it's not required you go to the .coms to get any source and can just go to a library or magazine rack.
and wikipedia uses information from all those expert sites to make one megadatabase of information from all these "expert sites" put together.
Dec 1, 2008 10:57 AM #305207
Quote from Dragon⁰⁷⁷Cite the sources in your paper, not "Wikipedia"
Are we talking for a paper?
Oh, in that case yes, use the sources not wikipedia itself.
Dec 1, 2008 7:01 PM #305316
Quote from Dinomutand wikipedia uses information from all those expert sites to make one megadatabase of information from all these "expert sites" put together.
Not all of it is from an expert site.
Dec 1, 2008 11:02 PM #305446
ya sorry about my post saying fist off.... or am I.....
Okay felt like googling something during computers, so i search "wikipidia validity". Predictibly I didnt come up with anything. I tried a few other keyword searches but I couldnt find anything. This got me thinking weather or not there is such thing as 100% fact. Then I got to wether or not it even matters in the first place. If we all believe something to be fact, but somebody discovers its not, the majority will tag this finding as false. Everything on wikipieda genrally tends to be believed or is very believable, so this may mean that it is genrally correct or will be accepted as correct.
On the topic of using it for papers and stuff, if your lazy wikipedia is perfect because it has a very summed up version of everything else. At best you will come up with a page of info including elaboration. Wikipedia is a summary of the information, as the sources listed and those not genrally tend to be more in depth.
Just my opionions, which are genraly believed, which are then genrally fact.
Okay felt like googling something during computers, so i search "wikipidia validity". Predictibly I didnt come up with anything. I tried a few other keyword searches but I couldnt find anything. This got me thinking weather or not there is such thing as 100% fact. Then I got to wether or not it even matters in the first place. If we all believe something to be fact, but somebody discovers its not, the majority will tag this finding as false. Everything on wikipieda genrally tends to be believed or is very believable, so this may mean that it is genrally correct or will be accepted as correct.
On the topic of using it for papers and stuff, if your lazy wikipedia is perfect because it has a very summed up version of everything else. At best you will come up with a page of info including elaboration. Wikipedia is a summary of the information, as the sources listed and those not genrally tend to be more in depth.
Just my opionions, which are genraly believed, which are then genrally fact.
Dec 2, 2008 12:17 AM #305517
Quote from NinjasRule34This got me thinking weather or not there is such thing as 100% fact.
Woah man, deep shit. I never thought of it that way.
Dec 2, 2008 1:24 AM #305565
Quote from NinjasRule34ya sorry about my post saying fist off.... or am I.....
Okay felt like googling something during computers, so i search "wikipidia validity". Predictibly I didnt come up with anything. I tried a few other keyword searches but I couldnt find anything. This got me thinking weather or not there is such thing as 100% fact. Then I got to wether or not it even matters in the first place. If we all believe something to be fact, but somebody discovers its not, the majority will tag this finding as false. Everything on wikipieda genrally tends to be believed or is very believable, so this may mean that it is genrally correct or will be accepted as correct.
On the topic of using it for papers and stuff, if your lazy wikipedia is perfect because it has a very summed up version of everything else. At best you will come up with a page of info including elaboration. Wikipedia is a summary of the information, as the sources listed and those not genrally tend to be more in depth.
Just my opionions, which are genraly believed, which are then genrally fact.
Whaaaaatt?!?!?!?!
Just because something is generally believed does not make it "generally fact" (what does that even mean?) Fact is NOT a democracy.
Dec 2, 2008 1:26 AM #305567
If the value 0 gets 270 electoral votes, that value should be changed to 1.
Dec 2, 2008 1:27 AM #305570
Quote from DudemanIf the value 0 gets 270 electoral votes, that value should be changed to 1.
I dun get it...
Dec 2, 2008 1:33 AM #305577
Quote from Dragon⁰⁷⁷Fact is NOT a democracy.
It is, actually. Truth is relative.
Dec 2, 2008 1:35 AM #305579
Quote from BongoeWoah man, deep shit. I never thought of it that way.
Thanks, I try ^_^