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It is completely natural.

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Nothing is natural if it's taken out of its natural setting, in this case being taken in higher doses then the body is used to and creating a 'high'. Thats not natural. Nothings natural anymore, everything is produced to make money. You will not find natural weed unless you grow yourself, everything is laced. Nothing is what you say, 'natural'.

I'm not trying to sound anti-drug or anything. I mean, I'm not completely proud of it, but i have smoked, I've injected before, I've done acid, and ex, I've taken all the painkillers you can think of, oxycontin, oxycodone, all the mood stabalizers, xanax, ambien. It all makes everything worse in the long run, and has some repurcussions. Including DMT.

How can you say all herb is laced? That's just...a really bizarre thing to say.

That depends entirely on the person, whether or not your responsible enough to actually handle all that is the thing that makes everything in the bad run, not the drugs. They are just a scapegoat.

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If you go to a butcher and buy 10 steaks, and 9 of them turn out to have maggots in them, of course you are going to label that shop as bad and having bad meat. :l

yeah, well **** you too.

but you're notmaggot, not maggot D:

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Too bad you don't know 99.999% of the people you're passing bad judgment on.
Also, If alcohol is legal, why would they make DMT illegal? Alcohol is worse for you in more ways than one. DMT= raises blood pressure and temperature for a few hours. Alcohol = Liver failure and kidney failure forever. Although with hard drugs like Heroine and Meth I can see why they'd outlaw deadly shit like that.

What. The whole point of what I just said was that I was not passing judgment on anyone until I knew them. I just don't think that you can lump that in with racism, because no-one should be judged by their race. Are you trying to say that all drug use should be condoned? Because that's stupid.

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What. The whole point of what I just said was that I was not passing judgment on anyone until I knew them. I just don't think that you can lump that in with racism, because no-one should be judged by their race. Are you trying to say that all drug use should be condoned? Because that's stupid.

I think he either you missed his or he missed your point. Either way he doesn't say he condone all drug uses, he even says he can see why some are illegal. I however DO want all forms of drugs to be legalized.
Also I replied too so ANSWER ME DAMMIT:

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It's not literally being racist, it's about the ignorance that both encompasses.

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But they are both different things. One is choice the other is genetics.

Anyway, the government is there to protect and serve its citizens, hence why they ban various substances.

Also the argument about alcohol doing permanent damage; you can always get a transplant for your liver or kidneys, but you can only have the one brain.

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But they are both different things. One is choice the other is genetics.

Anyway, the government is there to protect and serve its citizens, hence why they ban various substances.

Also the argument about alcohol doing permanent damage; you can always get a transplant for your liver or kidneys, but you can only have the one brain.

I don't know what your first sentence is to, so eh.

Oh yeah I guess that's makes it alright, just get another liver or just get another kidney. Makes it perfectly acceptable to be legal then right? Oh and you have lung cancer due to cigarettes? No problem our government says, just get another one! Also again, as with everything, with responsible use you won't have any problems with your brain. Oh and one more thing as to why our government still has a ban of hemp and marijuana, guess who provides the most funding for anti-marijuana adds, the cigarette companies. When you have something that lets you feel better than you do with ciggs and has many various health benefits and isn't addictive, why would anyone want to smoke the lung cancer giving products they have? Well that's not entirely true, the pharmaceutical companies also have their pockets a little lighter due to funding. They can't have the rights to hemp or the medicinal properties that herb provides, no matter how much they try to replicate it. And yes they have been trying to replicate it so that they can sell their own and make TONS of money off of it. But if they can't replicate it, then they can't make money then why do they want something on the market that heals people that they can't charge for?

Heh sorry, I went on a bit of a rant there, probably doesn't make much sense but I stand by it.

Weed doesn't heal though. It helps relieve pain, and gives you an appetite, THC opens up your lungs, but if you smoke it, it has opened up all of the alveoli which then get filled with all the chemicals/byproduct chemicals. I have nothing against eating it, which would actually benefit you.

Hell the only reason why it is illegal, was because the US government wanted a reason to kick the Mexicans out of the southern states. Since they all had weed, they banned it.

Shrooms, get you high by introducing neurotoxins into your ****ing nervous system.

All of the opiates, alter the chemistry of your brain.

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Weed doesn't heal though. It helps relieve pain, and gives you an appetite, THC opens up your lungs, but if you smoke it, it has opened up all of the alveoli which then get filled with all the chemicals/byproduct chemicals. I have nothing against eating it, which would actually benefit you.

Hell the only reason why it is illegal, was because the US government wanted a reason to kick the Mexicans out of the southern states. Since they all had weed, they banned it.

Shrooms, get you high by introducing neurotoxins into your ****ing nervous system.

All of the opiates, alter the chemistry of your brain.

Marijuana doesn't just relieve pain, it does a hell of a lot more. But yeah I would probably just eat it if I had the resources to do so, but alas no stove is a bit of a problem.

Actually it wasn't just to get the spics out, but I don't want to explain it because I just feel like I'm repeating myself in every one of these threads.

Shrooms have been used for quite some time, and there have been plenty of people who have used it since the 60's and continue to do so without any repercussions, same with opiates. Like I said, it's all about responsible use.

Shrooms really helped me see things in depth, and had positive effects on my social life.

Marijuana really doesn't effect my social life, but I've noticed I can think up of way more abstract, trippy, and disturbing shit.

I can honestly say I think DMT in the form of ayahuasca opened me up to a whole new way of thinking and my subsequent usage of LSD furthered that exploration. No repercussions at all, that I can tell. I smoke pot more, though, which slows me down, but I'm sober enough most of the time to do my shit without over-thinking. Since I've had the world opened up before my eyes, I think about everything in every way possible and it drives me crazy, so I have to dumb myself down every now and then, just to relax. I would say that's a pretty good side-effect as opposed to the failure of vital organs or holes being burned into my brain.

I see no reason that DMT should become legal. It is not a fun drug, it isn't something the average Joe would desire, or necessarily be able to handle. I use psychedelic drugs for various reasons, exploring, contemplation, and my interest in psychology. I've never come across DMT in my short life, but I will eventually use it.

If someone has the urge to use DMT, they will get it, regardless of its legal status. An extraction from various herbs/plants isn't complex in the least. It requires almost no knowledge of chemistry. If DMT was legal, a bunch of dumb ****s trying to get high will be buying it, not knowing what they are getting into. Just like Salvia Divinorum, a psychedelic nearly as powerful, but not quite as vivid of an experience, as DMT.

And it isn't like people are getting in legal trouble over this shit, how would they? If you are searched in a vehicle, and the officer finds some DMT crystal freebase, you deserve the punishment. There isn't any reason to be transporting it in a vehicle. It shouldn't even be sold IMO. The illegal status of DMT makes sense, believe it or not stupid people don't make the best choices with drugs.

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I think he either you missed his or he missed your point. Either way he doesn't say he condone all drug uses, he even says he can see why some are illegal. I however DO want all forms of drugs to be legalized.
Also I replied too so ANSWER ME DAMMIT:

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Yeah, we probably did. How can I put this...Ok. Being racist is wrong. Thinking someone is stupid because of the things they have done is not. I do not necessarily think that all drug users are idiots, but there are definitely some who have no idea what they are messing with. This is why you cannot equate the two.

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I can honestly say I think DMT in the form of ayahuasca opened me up to a whole new way of thinking and my subsequent usage of LSD furthered that exploration. No repercussions at all, that I can tell. I smoke pot more, though, which slows me down, but I'm sober enough most of the time to do my shit without over-thinking. Since I've had the world opened up before my eyes, I think about everything in every way possible and it drives me crazy, so I have to dumb myself down every now and then, just to relax. I would say that's a pretty good side-effect as opposed to the failure of vital organs or holes being burned into my brain.

Since this post, I've learned that most of what I said is untrue about the necessity to dumb myself down. As can be expected by many of you now, I was high when I typed that post. But looking back(all those many days ago) I realize that I do enjoy my sobriety and the amount of thinking I do and I've been slowly weaning myself off pot because of that. Also, I don't think I even like marijuana any more, if I ever did to begin with. I liked it because of how it brought me closer to friends and how it changed my view of the world in small ways and in small glimpses at a time, but my goal in smoking weed was to achieve the effects that I've since experienced by using psychedelics, therefore rendering my initial reason void and the only excuse I have now is that I'm "addicted" on a psychological level. I feel angry and burdened when I'm sober, or at least I used to. I had become dependent on weed to seek insight into the small world I trapped myself in and I felt as though only weed would bring me closer to people. I thought that everyone should do it. Now, I don't think weed is terrible, no not by a long-shot. But it's not for me, any more, at least and I do intend to quit it in the near future. I've already slowed down immensely from smoking 3-5 grams daily(by myself) to now smoking a joint or two with friends twice a week at most. I still enjoy the effects, but I don't need it and I understand now that it's become a ball and chain on my mind, slowing my mental progress and separating me from my friends, the exact opposite result of what I used to think was good about it.

Anyway, I know I'm rambling and y'all don't want to read it, but the more I think, the more I discover and I stand by my previous statement about the ayahuasca being the catalyst that got my brain jump-started once again. I'm planning on doing it again soon, after a week or two of fasting.

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I see no reason that DMT should become legal. It is not a fun drug, it isn't something the average Joe would desire, or necessarily be able to handle. I use psychedelic drugs for various reasons, exploring, contemplation, and my interest in psychology. I've never come across DMT in my short life, but I will eventually use it.
Just because it probably isn't going to be used widely is an acceptable reason for you to go to jail for it? I really don't see your logic here.

If someone has the urge to use DMT, they will get it, regardless of its legal status. An extraction from various herbs/plants isn't complex in the least. It requires almost no knowledge of chemistry. If DMT was legal, a bunch of dumb ****s trying to get high will be buying it, not knowing what they are getting into. Just like Salvia Divinorum, a psychedelic nearly as powerful, but not quite as vivid of an experience, as DMT.
If DMT was legal, yes a bunch of dumb ****s would try it and d dumb things, a bunch of dumb shits will also try alcohol and do dumb things. A bunch of dumb ****s can light themselves on fire, or any number of dumb **** activities. Nurfing the world isn't going to solve anything, if they are stupid enough to try something without realizing what it is and what it can do, they deserve to have whatever happens to them, the same as with alcohol, fire or even a ****ing fork.

And it isn't like people are getting in legal trouble over this shit, how would they? If you are searched in a vehicle, and the officer finds some DMT crystal freebase, you deserve the punishment. There isn't any reason to be transporting it in a vehicle. It shouldn't even be sold IMO. The illegal status of DMT makes sense, believe it or not stupid people don't make the best choices with drugs.
Of course there are people getting in legal trouble over it, how can you be so naive? If you get caught with it, you DON'T deserve the punishment. Why? Because it SHOULDN'T be illegal in the first place. There are plenty of reasons for you to transfer it, like maybe you wanna ****ing transfer it? Keep it somewhere else? It's not like it magically appears in people's houses. Believe it or not people don't make the best choices with anything, so if you want to say that argument then you might as well make everything that could harm you in any way illegal.

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