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Dec 10, 2008 2:09 AM #311273
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Easy, I respect the living. Dedicating my time to be silent, even a short amount for this guy would be an insult to millions of other great people who died for some cause.

Should we have a moment of silence for Tesla? He was pretty ****ing great if I remember correctly. "He was the pioneer for AC, I don't know what that is because I'm an idiot"

Lincoln maybe? Nah, people just think, "ah yeah that guy was great, I'm sure glad I'm not a slave"

But moments of silence for a musician? I won't say he wasn't influential, but so were countless people before him...

...just saying.

edit: Also, for all of the atheists on this board, which apparently is like 95%, why do you give a flying **** about dead people anyway? Love and peace, big deal. Technically you are dedicating time of your own life to nothing. It isn't like John is up in heaven smoking a doobie with his thumb up giving a damn about what you or anyone else thinks. So why waste the time?

Though if you're like me, you'd probably just waste it anyway.

Religion? Really religion?

HOW THE HELL DO WE GO FROM JOHN LENNON TO RELIGION?!?
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Dec 10, 2008 2:25 AM #311284
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Easy, I respect the living. Dedicating my time to be silent, even a short amount for this guy would be an insult to millions of other great people who died for some cause.

Should we have a moment of silence for Tesla? He was pretty ****ing great if I remember correctly. "He was the pioneer for AC, I don't know what that is because I'm an idiot"

Lincoln maybe? Nah, people just think, "ah yeah that guy was great, I'm sure glad I'm not a slave"

But moments of silence for a musician? I won't say he wasn't influential, but so were countless people before him...

...just saying.

edit: Also, for all of the atheists on this board, which apparently is like 95%, why do you give a flying **** about dead people anyway? Love and peace, big deal. Technically you are dedicating time of your own life to nothing. It isn't like John is up in heaven smoking a doobie with his thumb up giving a damn about what you or anyone else thinks. So why waste the time?

Though if you're like me, you'd probably just waste it anyway.


Do you respect all living people equally? I don't. If someone has achieved something I find admirable I respect them more, and I don't see why death should suddenly put an end to that respect. "holy shit, the guy died! What a loser."

People pay respect to dead guys they care(d) about, and John Lennon meant a great deal to millions. I agree that no one should be obligated to have a moment of silence for him, but those who want to should absolutely be able to do so, without being accused of insulting all other dead people. Would you say I insult all dead grandparents when I visit my grandfathers grave?
And yes, if Tesla mattered to you I find it fair to have a moment of silence for him, if you want to. Besides; there's a monument to him in Niagara Falls. Same goes for Lincoln, he has a memorial that people visit every day.

Being an atheist doesn't necessarily mean that you don't believe in any form of afterlife, it means that you deny a deity. I don't believe in any of the Gods I've ever heard about, but I'm still not entirely convinced that this life is all we got. For all I know John Lennon might be smoking a doobie with his thumb up right now, in an awesome place that awesome people come to after they've lived an awesome life.
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Dec 10, 2008 2:29 AM #311287
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Religion? Really religion?

HOW THE HELL DO WE GO FROM JOHN LENNON TO RELIGION?!?


This is SPP, religion has to be brought up in every dispute.
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Dec 10, 2008 3:24 AM #311334
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This is SPP, religion has to be brought up in every dispute.

Because I'm evil and I knew people would react to it... like flies to a light... the kind that kills them.

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Do you respect all living people equally? I don't. If someone has achieved something I find admirable I respect them more, and I don't see why death should suddenly put an end to that respect. "holy shit, the guy died! What a loser."

People pay respect to dead guys they care(d) about, and John Lennon meant a great deal to millions. I agree that no one should be obligated to have a moment of silence for him, but those who want to should absolutely be able to do so, without being accused of insulting all other dead people. Would you say I insult all dead grandparents when I visit my grandfathers grave?
And yes, if Tesla mattered to you I find it fair to have a moment of silence for him, if you want to. Besides; there's a monument to him in Niagara Falls. Same goes for Lincoln, he has a memorial that people visit every day.

Being an atheist doesn't necessarily mean that you don't believe in any form of afterlife, it means that you deny a deity. I don't believe in any of the Gods I've ever heard about, but I'm still not entirely convinced that this life is all we got. For all I know John Lennon might be smoking a doobie with his thumb up right now, in an awesome place that awesome people come to after they've lived an awesome life.


YAWN. Not exactly what I meant, but close enough I guess.

First I will come clean and admit that my first sentence was a lie in my original post, but it saddens me as to why nobody picked up why it was a lie, or rather, a quote.. paraphrased of course, but close enough.

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Second line of affairs... My grandparents are alive still, and I'm not much of a graveyard goer, but I may visit from time to time. You can probably judge by my first post that I do in fact respect the dead, I just won't waste a moment of silence on them because frankly, if I was dead I wouldn't want people wasting moments of silence on me.

People can dedicate all day long if they want to how great John was, or Hitler, or whatever... I was just voicing that I don't much care because I don't feel he was all that great in comparison with other people that died, and while I have a great deal of respect for many, I just find it silly.

Lastly, the big answer to the big question. This is sure to piss off a lot of people, but I've been feeling a little crazy lately, and have little or no remorse for many of my actions... which leads me to my final point.

I dragged religion into this, or lack thereof because if there is one thing that pisses me off, it's hypocrites. Now, you know as well as I do that everyone is technically a hypocrite, it's mainly just a measurement of how much of a hypocrite a person is, very similar to homosexuality. People voice this idea of respect, dedicate a moment of silence to their dead brethren, and yet cannot and will not respect the people alive and around them. You see it every day, especially on this board. Everyone shitting all over everyone's viewpoints and beliefs. And when a scrooge like myself comes in and does the very same, it's the usual defensive procedures... You were right about one thing though, I was mistaken to assume that atheists have no belief in an afterlife, but you gotta admit, they usually don't advertise it.

He was a good musician, he had a lot to say. So did a lot of other less famous people that nobody cares about, but **** them, they don't need a moment of silence. If you don't know them, they don't matter.
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Dec 10, 2008 3:41 AM #311349
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Because I'm evil and I knew people would react to it... like flies to a light... the kind that kills them.


More like flies on a rancid turd, amirite?
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Dec 10, 2008 3:45 AM #311353
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More like flies on a rancid turd, amirite?


Hells yeah, *high five*
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Dec 10, 2008 4:15 AM #311371
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Because I'm evil and I knew people would react to it... like flies to a light... the kind that kills them.



YAWN. Not exactly what I meant, but close enough I guess.

First I will come clean and admit that my first sentence was a lie in my original post, but it saddens me as to why nobody picked up why it was a lie, or rather, a quote.. paraphrased of course, but close enough.


Second line of affairs... My grandparents are alive still, and I'm not much of a graveyard goer, but I may visit from time to time. You can probably judge by my first post that I do in fact respect the dead, I just won't waste a moment of silence on them because frankly, if I was dead I wouldn't want people wasting moments of silence on me.

People can dedicate all day long if they want to how great John was, or Hitler, or whatever... I was just voicing that I don't much care because I don't feel he was all that great in comparison with other people that died, and while I have a great deal of respect for many, I just find it silly.

Lastly, the big answer to the big question. This is sure to piss off a lot of people, but I've been feeling a little crazy lately, and have little or no remorse for many of my actions... which leads me to my final point.

I dragged religion into this, or lack thereof because if there is one thing that pisses me off, it's hypocrites. Now, you know as well as I do that everyone is technically a hypocrite, it's mainly just a measurement of how much of a hypocrite a person is, very similar to homosexuality. People voice this idea of respect, dedicate a moment of silence to their dead brethren, and yet cannot and will not respect the people alive and around them. You see it every day, especially on this board. Everyone shitting all over everyone's viewpoints and beliefs. And when a scrooge like myself comes in and does the very same, it's the usual defensive procedures... You were right about one thing though, I was mistaken to assume that atheists have no belief in an afterlife, but you gotta admit, they usually don't advertise it.

He was a good musician, he had a lot to say. So did a lot of other less famous people that nobody cares about, but **** them, they don't need a moment of silence. If you don't know them, they don't matter.


I don't think a moment of silence is a waste of time for many people, though I never really take one unless told to do so. From what I gather, the point of a moment of silence is to think about the person and remember the good times you had together (or the good times that person gave you), and I guess many people find that rewarding. If you can get something good out of it, it's not a waste of time in my opinion. I think a moment for silence is as much for yourself as for the person you are silent for.

Also, not having a moment of silence does not equal saying they don't matter, even if you do have a moment of silence for someone else. It's tremendously stupid to assume that there's only two sides of the coin, even if you do it to prove a point or whatever.
It's not "Moment of silence=respect"
"No moment of silence= **** you I don't give a shit"
There's people that respect someone, but don't see the need to display said respect in any way. There's people that respect someone very much, and have a moment of silence for them, respect someone else a little, and thus don't have a moment of silence for them, while still respecting them. It's not insulting to have different opinions of different people.
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Dec 10, 2008 4:27 AM #311388
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This is the day that Mark David Chapman shot John Lennon, and killed him.

Exactly 20 years.

Moment of silence, guys.

Why? The guy was a musician, the hell would he want us to be quiet for
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Dec 10, 2008 4:31 AM #311393
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I don't think a moment of silence is a waste of time for many people, though I never really take one unless told to do so. From what I gather, the point of a moment of silence is to think about the person and remember the good times you had together (or the good times that person gave you), and I guess many people find that rewarding. If you can get something good out of it, it's not a waste of time in my opinion. I think a moment for silence is as much for yourself as for the person you are silent for.

Also, not having a moment of silence does not equal saying they don't matter, even if you do have a moment of silence for someone else. It's tremendously stupid to assume that there's only two sides of the coin, even if you do it to prove a point or whatever.
It's not "Moment of silence=respect"
"No moment of silence= **** you I don't give a shit"
There's people that respect someone, but don't see the need to display said respect in any way. There's people that respect someone very much, and have a moment of silence for them, respect someone else a little, and thus don't have a moment of silence for them, while still respecting them. It's not insulting to have different opinions of different people.


PLehhhhhh.

The only people I will dedicate a moment of silence to... were soldiers. Also, I like hero's point.

I would tell you why you're wrong, but I've hit my threshold of laziness, plus you technically wouldn't be wrong because this sort of thing is a matter of opinion. I already expressed mine.

The opinion was simple actually, I don't care enough about John to give him a moment of silence, I would rather dedicate to other people.

Also, this thread wasn't asking.
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Dec 10, 2008 4:48 AM #311410
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Why? The guy was a musician, the hell would he want us to be quiet for


holy shit you're a retard
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Dec 10, 2008 4:51 AM #311411
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Dec 10, 2008 4:57 AM #311419
I don't have silences to respect people. I just respect them anyway :/
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Dec 10, 2008 4:58 AM #311420
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I don't have silences to respect people. I just respect them anyway :/


[SIZE="7"]I RESPECT JOHN LENNON[/SIZE]
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Dec 10, 2008 5:00 AM #311423
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[SIZE="7"]I RESPECT JOHN LENNON[/SIZE]


[SIZE="7"]I ALSO RESPECT JOHN LENNON[/SIZE]