Depends how you escalate my analogy.

An assassination can't defend the people he's already killed, it can only defend those he might kill in the future.

Question: Would it be immoral to go back in time and strangle Hitler at birth?

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Depends how you escalate my analogy.

An assassination can't defend the people he's already killed, it can only defend those he might kill in the future.

Question: Would it be immoral to go back in time and strangle Hitler at birth?

I would say it is okay to kill Saddam Hussein in that analogy because he killed people before so he is likely to kill them again.

And yes it would be okay to kill Hitler at birth because of the people you would be saving, but this has a risk of something worse happening that we don't know about.

That's the trouble with all these things. Then again, the pacifist approach is no different. If I kept talking about this I'll end up sounding like Ashton did in his literature on the meaning of life so I'll step back and let some other people talk for a while.

Having some universal moral rules is impossible, because every situation has different sorroundings with different people with different circumstandces.

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Having some universal moral rules is impossible, because every situation has different sorroundings with different people with different circumstandces.

It's possible in my eyes.

Let's debate!

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Depends how you escalate my analogy.

An assassination can't defend the people he's already killed, it can only defend those he might kill in the future.

Question: Would it be immoral to go back in time and strangle Hitler at birth?

Of course it would, Hitler had a very good point of view and while I'm not fascist I know of the point of view he had and I promote him for it and some of his actions during his reign as fuhrer

Well some of his actions were ok. Expanding Germany's military lifted them out of a depresion. It was just how he used it that really messed up his reputation.

Not to mention his brilliant work for the economy

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Not to mention his brilliant work for the economy

That's debatable, you can effectively argue it was all smoke and mirrors.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazis_and_the_german_economy.htm

You can also effectively argue it wasn't, the point stands valid.

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It's possible in my eyes.

Let's debate!

Mind elaborating that instead of challenging me as if we were about to fight using our Pokemon?

Reliable Sources, I choose you!

Violence usually is AN answer, but mostly not the best one.

Pacifism often goes too far. There is avoiding fights, but lying down and not defending yourself is just foolish.

Let me tell you the conditions about the school I attended a year ago. (Where kids from 8 - 15 years educated.)

When I was 10 - 12 years old, the Ninth grade or the grade that was about to leave school "ruled" the school. They were overlords, kings of the school. If you insulted them, they would say "Don't **** with me." If you kept doing it you would probably wind up in the trash can or in the wardrobe hang up on a clothes hanger. We quickly learned not to get into trouble with them. We all showed our out most respect to them, even if we disliked them. And the teachers didn't care much. (Of course they cared if you got hurt - Beaten up. But if nothing was done to you - your body, they wouldn't take actions.)

But doing the period until I got to the Ninth grade, things changed.
At the time I was in ninth grade, the first grade insulted us, and basically gave us a hard time. And the worst part is, we couldn't even touch them. God forbid we did something to them, because there is a high probability we would get expelled from school. So, me and my fellow classmates had to put up to them and we couldn't do anything about it. We tried telling them to stop etc, but they just wouldn't listen and kept harassing us.

Conclusion:
I am not saying that the case in the school is outrageous, just saying, little violence is always needed when your dealing with cases who won't learn it the verbal way. Just showing them not to mess with you. I did NOT wish to torment those kids and frighten them, but sometimes its the only way.
Tho violence is sometimes the answer it should only be taken as a last resort. Prevention is always better than cure.
Extreme violence should NEVER be the answer.

There always needs to be a good balance between violence and pacifism.
[SIZE="1"]As should everything in our world be correctly balanced.[/SIZE]


Thank you for reading.

Anyone want to comment on my post or is this debate finished ?