I didn't say anything like that. There's such things as vacant lots ,empty billboards, and old run down buildings, you know.

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I didn't say anything like that. There's such things as vacant lots ,empty billboards, and old run down buildings, you know.

Sure, legal places are fine.

Sometimes when I'm in the countryside and I see an old run-down building caked in graffiti it looks awesome, billboards are okay because they can just change them. Those are the only exceptions.

Sometimes I see graffiti in a really odd place and I'm like "Wow, how the Hell'd they get up there?"

There's a psychological hypothesis that says people are more likely to commit a crime in an area where there are high levels of grafiti because they subconsciously see it as a high crime area and therefore commiting a crime there seems less serious than doing so in a clean area.

The evidence supporting it is severely limited though, I just thought it was relevant.

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Sure, legal places are fine.

Sometimes when I'm in the countryside and I see an old run-down building caked in graffiti it looks awesome, billboards are okay because they can just change them. Those are the only exceptions.

Sometimes I see graffiti in a really odd place and I'm like "Wow, how the Hell'd they get up there?"

Someone graffiti'd "Obama" onto an over pass near my house, which I thought was pretty cool, because to show his support for Obama he'd have to inch his way out on a thin ledge, 20 feet above the free way, presumably in the dark.

Awesome

@Zed

The Tipping Point?

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Someone graffiti'd "Obama" onto an over pass near my house, which I thought was pretty cool, because to show his support for Obama he'd have to inch his way out on a thin ledge, 20 feet above the free way, presumably in the dark.

Awesome

Wow.

Heh. I'm just imagining someone doing that for "Brown".

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Someone graffiti'd "Obama" onto an over pass near my house, which I thought was pretty cool, because to show his support for Obama he'd have to inch his way out on a thin ledge, 20 feet above the free way, presumably in the dark.

Awesome

@Zed

The Tipping Point?

Yep. But their evidence is countered in Freakonomics.

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Yep. But their evidence is countered in Freakonomics.

Well I haven't read that...

so...

I'm going to go with what was in The Tipping Point

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Well I haven't read that...

so...

I'm going to go with what was in The Tipping Point

To sum it up, they say that all of the drop in crime that was suposedly caused by the grafiti management can actually be accounted for as a result of legalising abortion some years earlier.

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To sum it up, they say that all of the drop in crime that was suposedly caused by the grafiti management can actually be accounted for as a result of legalising abortion some years earlier.

Am I interperating this correctly:

Since abortion was legalized more people are getting abortions, therefore there are less poor people with more kids than they can handle (because they were too wimpy to use a coat hanger before), so less kids are growing up in 'da' streets and becoming juvenile delinquents. Therefore there is less crime?

Sounds iffy. Poor people don't get abortions.

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Sure, legal places are fine.

Sometimes when I'm in the countryside and I see an old run-down building caked in graffiti it looks awesome, billboards are okay because they can just change them. Those are the only exceptions.

Sometimes I see graffiti in a really odd place and I'm like "Wow, how the Hell'd they get up there?"

Yeah. Sometimes if I see something stupid like someone's nickname, I still appreciating it if it's in a really odd place. It can be kind of like parkour, but marking your destination at the end.

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Am I interperating this correctly:

Since abortion was legalized more people are getting abortions, therefore there are less poor people with more kids than they can handle (because they were too wimpy to use a coat hanger before), so less kids are growing up in 'da' streets and becoming juvenile delinquents. Therefore there is less crime?

Sounds iffy. Poor people don't get abortions.

It's what they say. Apparently 95% of abortions were in the lowest income groups. I haven't seen the raw data so I can't confirm anything.

You'd think the majority of abortions would come from teenage girls too careless to tell their boyfriend to wrap up before it resulting in their parents taking them to "get that growth removed" because they have an education to worry about.

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It's what they say. Apparently 95% of abortions were in the lowest income groups. I haven't seen the raw data so I can't confirm anything.

Eh. Poor people paying for pricey post modern pre-natal murder prevents pre-teen persons pilfering?

I perceive that poor people perhaps would not possibly pay for overpriced operations planned and peopled on their penetrated pussies.

:/

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Yeah. Sometimes if I see something stupid like someone's nickname, I still appreciating it if it's in a really odd place. It can be kind of like parkour, but marking your destination at the end.

Yeah. I also find that when I'm on a train and I see, on my journey, a really old, wrecked, burnt out train covered in graffiti that it looks really ominous and creepy but also amazing at the same time.

FUN FACT: "Graffiti" is the plural of "graffito".

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Eh. Poor people paying for pricey post modern pre-natal murder prevents pre-teen persons pilfering?

I perceive that poor people perhaps would not possibly pay for overpriced operations planned and peopled on their penetrated pussies.

:/

I went and got the book so I can see what they actually say, instead of working from memory. They say that the price of abortion dropped when it was legalised because previously it had been a dangerous illegal operation that had to be done quietly. Before the legalisation an abortion would cost more than $500 so only the rich girls could afford it. After the legalisation the price dropped to between $50 and $100. It's not that mostly poor people got abortions (although they did) but that the rich people would have gotten the abortions anyway.