Do you believe in it? This film is very convincing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

I have nothing more to say except I personally do, though I feel there is nothing "we the people" can do about it.

The New World Order is a joke. I've been hearing about this for years now, and we still aren't any closer to a "new world order" than we were before. Just conspiracy theory BS.

Man, i used to love going on sites like abovetopsecret.com and reading about all the conspiracys and aliens and shit (usually it was complete nuts, but funny) but now all this new world order and secret society stuff has overrun the sites, i feel less inclined to go on them for my fix of escapism.


thank god the 9/11 shit is finally dying down, that really was a dark day for mentally stable conspiracy lovers.

Did any of you guys even watch some of that film? Seriously, it's not some "conspiracy" like the 9/11 shit. I was skeptical at first. Anyway, this thread is also about the private federal reserve (a private banking company) engineering the economic collapse (as they have done in the past) and then acting like heroes and saving the day. It's also about the fact that Obama is in on this, and is going to let everyone down.

If you can't be bothered to watch the whole thing, skip to 0:55 (minutes) and watch 10-20 minutes from there.

Would anyone be willing to sum this up for me? Two hours is quite a long film for something which may or may not be bullshit and may or may not ever come to directly affect me.

Edit: ninjad. ok, I'll watch that bit once it loads. I'd like to add that Obama cannot fail to disapoint. Have you seen what people expect of him?

That film is about Obama, though that in turn related to the new world order. It is saying there is a higher power than the president (private bankers, billionares from wall street), and they in effect choose the president. It says that Obama is a puppet, as every one of his promises he has broke. People started to see through bush, so they slapped a black face on it to make everyone happy. It also says that this higher power engineered the economic collapse, so they can fix it, make Obama look good and take more control of the country. Also, they are sending more countries to Africa to get rid of China, and they are sending people to countries surrounding China and Russia. They are making a civil army, and it's a requirement for a lot of people to do some civil service. They will join in the North American Union, and merge with the old British Empire to start the new world order. Also, all of Obama's council members are people from wall street, no one else, and the same people that backed him were the same people that backed people such as Hitler and Stalin.

Sounds ridiculous, I know, but there is lots of proof in that film, and to me it's undeniable after watching it. You could download it and burn it to a CD, that's what I did.

So let me get this straight.

We accidentally gave responsibility for fixing the economy to people who actually know about the economy rather than to power-crazed politicians who have double digit IQs and no clue what they're on about?

Then we're going to turn the planet into one big country which would eliminate all wars and ensure that the impoverished people of Africa no longer must incure massive debts and might actually be able to feed themselves?

And this is all bad because a group of people who made money in another country many years ago backed someone who might not have been nice which automatically means that anyone who is backed by people who made money is evil?

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So let me get this straight.

We accidentally gave responsibility for fixing the economy to people who actually know about the economy rather than to power-crazed politicians who have double digit IQs and no clue what they're on about?

Then we're going to turn the planet into one big country which would eliminate all wars and ensure that the impoverished people of Africa no longer must incure massive debts and might actually be able to feed themselves?

And this is all bad because a group of people who made money in another country many years ago backed someone who might not have been nice which automatically means that anyone who is backed by people who made money is evil?

Seriously, you should watch the whole thing. I cannot remember all of the reasons behind it. As for the first bit, the PFR (a non-federal private bank) controls all the economics, and is essentially above the law. They engineered the economic collapse, so they could (I can't really remember) "fix" it and make Obama look good, as well as somehow gain more money and buy even more banks. Over the last few years, they have raised taxes a hell of a load, all coming up to this boiling point with economic issues.

Second: The new world order is illegal. It doesn't matter whether it will be a good or bad thing. The issue lies with the fact that the president, other officials and mostly wall street bankers are having meetings without federal permission, and illegaly/secretly creating new policies, which will eventually turn the US into a facist country/group of countries (North American Alliance). Besides which, it will take away certain rights from people, which it is doing at the moment. Everyone between the ages of 18 and 25 will have to do some civil service and do a 3 month training regime. Generally speaking, it will not make everyone unite and be free, it will be global enslavement.

That isn't what that part of the film was saying. It was relating Obama to Hitler, Stalin and other controversial figures such as Mao. They all started out in pretty much the same way. They made huge promises, everyone loved them, they came into power and broke their promises, they lied, they decieved, they started civil service programs (Obama is doing), they took away certain liberties (Like Obama saying he would vote for not banning all gun legislation, and then voting to ban it), and eventually leading the country into war. I may be wrong, but didn't Hitler also come when Germany was in recession?

Also, it's a common thing for banks to do what the PFR are doing at the moment, it has been done in history in the US, Germany, China, Russia, and other places.

I will grant you your last point. Hitler looked as good in the thirties as Obama does now. But national service is not exactly a guarenteed route to meglamania. Most countries have had some form of it at some point, and it's certainly made Israel a powerful country for it's size. You've got all those guns kicking around, you might as well learn how to use the damn things.

but America is meant to be a country of liberty. EVERYTHING Obama has done so far has been the opposite he said he was going to do (for instance saying he was going to start bringing all troops out of Iraq immediately, and then when he is the President, saying he will think about taking some out in 23 or something months), and is taking certain liberties away from people.

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but America is meant to be a country of liberty. EVERYTHING Obama has done so far has been the opposite he said he was going to do (for instance saying he was going to start bringing all troops out of Iraq immediately, and then when he is the President, saying he will think about taking some out in 23 or something months), and is taking certain liberties away from people.

Perhaps new information came to light after he was made president. The military won't disclose all the critical data to somebody who might get into a position of power. I suspect he got to the Whitehouse fully intent on withdrawing American troops and then had a big FYI file plonked on his desk telling him that it would be impossible within the next two years and it might not happen for another ten but he can't tell anyone because it's a secret.

My hypothesis is as good as any anti-Obama conspiricy theory.

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but America is meant to be a country of liberty. EVERYTHING Obama has done so far has been the opposite he said he was going to do (for instance saying he was going to start bringing all troops out of Iraq immediately, and then when he is the President, saying he will think about taking some out in 23 or something months), and is taking certain liberties away from people.

He never said he was going to take them out immediately.



And saying that the federal reserve "engineered" the economic collapse just shows how little you understand about the economic collapse and why it really did crash.

I used to hear about the new world order in a wresling show when I was little.

*HEAD DESK*

Honestly. Forcing people into civil service, wow that really is bad. Forcing people to be active in their community. A three month training regime, in one of the worlds fattest countries. OH NO!

Powerful people having meetings with people of the same economic level as them OH NO!.

I have to ask have you at all thought about who doesn't want this so called "New WORLD ORDER" to come about? Well it would be the people who lead the "Current WORLD ORDER". This is naught but conspiracy bullshit.

As for the things about Obama not bringing the troops out of Iraq, he at least has a plan. As you might of heard the situation there is going bad again, so more of the Iraqies need to be trained up, which means more time.

As for you comments about Obama voting to ban firearms, he did no such thing, his PARTY did. Limiting firearms available to the general public is a very, very good thing. No he wont take your pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles, but he will take away your ****ing automatic machineguns, and SMG's. None of which serve any purpose then to intimidate and terrorize, then kill.

As for the government engineering the economic collapse. *HEAD DESK*.

This collapse will most likely result in the USA losing some of its super power status, and China's will increase.

I am not going to argue, as to be honest I wasn't going to play an active role in this debate, as quite honestly I don't know much about it. I recommend some of you actually watch the whole thing though.