Card Counting

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Jun 23, 2009 7:13 PM #446508
So I recently took up card counting, and I'm at the point of being able to count a single deck and guess the final card (range)
I was wondering if anyone else here has thought about counting cards, or already does, because learning by yourself is very boring.
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Jun 23, 2009 7:14 PM #446510
wouldnt it be more fun to learn slight of hand and be able to shuffle the card you want to the back?
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Jun 23, 2009 7:15 PM #446511
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wouldnt it be more fun to learn slight of hand and be able to shuffle the card you want to the back?

Card mechanics? not gonna be very helpful in a casino where the DEALER deals the cards.
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Jun 23, 2009 7:18 PM #446513
oh i didnt know you were going to use this for poker and stuff i thought you were going to learn tricks

good luck i guess
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Jun 23, 2009 7:21 PM #446516
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oh i didnt know you were going to use this for poker and stuff i thought you were going to learn tricks

good luck i guess

Even if I wanted to learn Card mechanics, it'd take very long, mastering the second card dealing is hard enough, and it gets way harder.
For what I want, the most mechanical thing I could learn is Ace Tracking.
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Jun 23, 2009 7:29 PM #446527
My uncle tought me how to count cards cus he did it a while ago and is a millionaire for it. I just never kept up with it because there are really only a few people who can master it, and to use it in a casino with the pressure and such narrows it down even smaller. A genious who can handle pressure is basically what you would have to be and the dealers/owners/security in casinos make sure as hell to make sure you aren't counting.
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Jun 23, 2009 7:33 PM #446531
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My uncle tought me how to count cards cus he did it a while ago and is a millionaire for it. I just never kept up with it because there are really only a few people who can master it, and to use it in a casino with the pressure and such narrows it down even smaller. A genious who can handle pressure is basically what you would have to be and the dealers/owners/security in casinos make sure as hell to make sure you aren't counting.

That's why i'm training, and it's not illeagle, they just don't like you doing it. Really, anyone can do it, but like you said mastering it is hard, as it gets insane later on.
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Jun 26, 2009 4:13 AM #448020
I'm pretty sure there are fifty-two cards in the deck.
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Jun 26, 2009 4:21 AM #448031
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I'm pretty sure there are fifty-two cards in the deck.

I really don't see what you're getting at.
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Jun 26, 2009 4:23 AM #448034
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My uncle tought me how to count cards cus he did it a while ago and is a millionaire for it. I just never kept up with it because there are really only a few people who can master it, and to use it in a casino with the pressure and such narrows it down even smaller. A genious who can handle pressure is basically what you would have to be and the dealers/owners/security in casinos make sure as hell to make sure you aren't counting.

It's fairly obvious that everything you said is a lie because card counting is easy as hell, as long as you are using the most common method to keep count (forgot the name). Good luck tricking the casinos though. Even with counting your chances of walking out with a profit are only just barely above 50%
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Jun 26, 2009 4:26 AM #448039
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I really don't see what you're getting at.
Going for the literal meaning of "card counting".

Anyway, the guess the last card is a good trick, but it's kind of worthless. Learn to apply it to poker and blackjack.

I only do chip tricks. Flashy, but it's just for fun. I only play with friends anyway.
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Jun 26, 2009 4:28 AM #448040
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It's fairly obvious that everything you said is a lie because card counting is easy as hell, as long as you are using the most common method to keep count (forgot the name). Good luck tricking the casinos though. Even with counting your chances of walking out with a profit are only just barely above 50%

The hi/lo method, easiest of them all, prefered by the MIT.

But realy, I doubt the 50% point alot, if you can;
1) Track Aces (Mechanic)
2) Determine the right amout to bet using the optimal betting system (step two of my training)
3) Get a table partner ( Easy)
4) Count cards like a master

It'll be like bringing a gun to a knife fight.

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Going for the literal meaning of "card counting".

Anyway, the guess the last card is a good trick, but it's kind of worthless. Learn to apply it to poker and blackjack.



Got'cha


And Card counting in poker? That's possible..... only if you can guess extremely well, and learn some crazy equations.
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Jun 26, 2009 4:56 AM #448057
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The hi/lo method, easiest of them all, prefered by the MIT.

But realy, I doubt the 50% point alot, if you can;
1) Track Aces (Mechanic)
2) Determine the right amout to bet using the optimal betting system (step two of my training)
3) Get a table partner ( Easy)
4) Count cards like a master

It'll be like bringing a gun to a knife fight.

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And the optimal betting system is simple. Just bet high when the count is high.
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Jun 26, 2009 5:16 AM #448064
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And the optimal betting system is simple. Just bet high when the count is high.

You gotta do some crazy shit though, with the number of decks x some other crazy shit, then use the true count.
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Jun 26, 2009 5:46 AM #448077
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You gotta do some crazy shit though, with the number of decks x some other crazy shit, then use the true count.

I remember reading about that. Didn't remember any of it though, as I don't plan to try and go into casinos with this.