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Mar 31, 2008 10:42 PM #106803
Some time ago, I was having a religious debate on which religion would more likely to be true, and believable. Unsurprisingly, my opponent was an Iranian kid name Nasir. I am not even kidding, but he went on to a point were I start asking myself questions about my religion and theirs. I read some pieces of the Quran (washed my hands first), and there isn't that much difference from us than them. In fact, their religion is so misunderstood by a wide variety of people out there. Allah doesn't tell terrorists to bomb people, Allah didn't tell Saddam to drop that nuclear waste on 30,000 kurds.

Allah (means God) doesn't have a SON, or Daughter, or Wife, or anything. Of course we believe Jesus (Dictionnary told me to correct the word jesus lol), is the son of God, and mary was a virgin, but so do they, except for the Son part. Here's how they go about their religion...

Basically, god created Adam and Eve, and they were the only ones in Heaven as they say. Satan offered Adam and Eve an Apple from a tree, which god forbid them to eat from, dispite the fact that they were in heaven and I am sure there were no apples but what Satan had. So they ate it, and god threw them from heaven to a planet he created in 7 days which you and I fap in everyday, "Earth".

Anyways, as the kids are made, and blah blah blah, there came a time were god wanted to spread the religion, to let the people know whom their lord and creator of Mankind is. He chose a special child (jesus, isah, mohammed... and 1000 others) to spread the word (as messengers).

They can't have sex unless its their wives, can't drink, bomb people, kill,....etc all that stuff we can't do, but do anyways (except for drinking).

ALSO: WOMEN DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR THAT BERKA! Yes true, and its not allowed for men to wear turbans as only women should cover their hair and nothing else. I know this for sure, because my friend's mom said so, and also it is written in their Bible The Quran.


With that stuff aside, I whats the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the word terrorists, or first impression of a muslim.
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Mar 31, 2008 10:49 PM #106806
Aside from the fact that they can legally beat their wives if they dont obey the men. And for the fact that the jihad are ordered to go to war with any country that stops them from preaching to another. Or maybe its that homosexuals are still condemned to death, as are adulterers. At least the bible has the new testament.

Islam is a misunderstood religion sure, but that doesn't make it any better.
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Mar 31, 2008 10:49 PM #106809
I too, am a Muslim.

Everything you said is true, pretty much.

I don't get why people always think Muslims are bad people. Infact, our story is:

All the prophets you guys have, are prophets of ours. Although, we believe that Mohammad, was the final prophet of god, and brought the final book, the Quaran.

Also, the apple story you were talking about, is also true. What I want to add on is a funny fact for our religion:
Eve pressured Adam to have the apple, so Eve swallowed it down easily. Although, Adam was having a hard time. So he had the apple remain there his whole life.

Hence, the Adam's Apple all the boys have.
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Mar 31, 2008 10:52 PM #106812
Bombs and loose change.
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Mar 31, 2008 10:58 PM #106817
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Aside from the fact that they can legally beat their wives if they dont obey the men. And for the fact that the jihad are ordered to go to war with any country that stops them from preaching to another. Or maybe its that homosexuals are still condemned to death, as are adulterers. At least the bible has the new testament.

Islam is a misunderstood religion sure, but that doesn't make it any better.


Um, I don't think that homosexual part's true. My dad spent 14 months in Afghanistan and one thing he learned from their culture [at least in the Middle East] is that "Men & Women" is for reproduction "Men & Men" is for fun.

Just saying, what I've heard.

@ the thread in its entirety: Yeah, I hate that so many people [not just Americans, although they are at fault] automatically stereotype just about any brown person that isn't African American, Native American, or Pacific Islander as a Muslim, and all Muslims as towel-headed, sand niggers that do nothing but bomb shit in the name of their heathen god.

tl;dr They have the same God and nearly the same beliefs, and people as a whole should stop stereotyping them.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:05 PM #106825
Glad people see the light in what I am trying to prove with little reference, sorry but the Quran is truly hard core to read and understand with even a translator.

My opinion is that a man's religion shouldn't be based off his skin color at all...
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Mar 31, 2008 11:13 PM #106831
Chapter 24: Verse 6: And for those who accuse their wives, but have no witnesses except themselves, let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies (i.e. testifies four times) by Allah that he is one of those who speak the truth.

Chapter 33: Verse: 59 O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

It must really suck to be a Muslim woman.

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My opinion is that a man's religion shouldn't be based off his skin color at all...


Lolwut?
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Mar 31, 2008 11:15 PM #106834
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Chapter 24: Verse 6: And for those who accuse their wives, but have no witnesses except themselves, let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies (i.e. testifies four times) by Allah that he is one of those who speak the truth.

Chapter 33: Verse: 59 O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

It must really suck to be a Muslim woman.



Lolwut?



Source from where you got this please?

@Jerryman: Not of his skin color, but his cock...
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Mar 31, 2008 11:19 PM #106841
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Source from where you got this please?

@Jerryman: Not of his skin color, but his cock...


Eh, I just closed the window, but ill pull it back up. I just searched "read the quaran online, LOL.
http://www.mysticletters.com/quran-viewer/arabic-yusuf-ali/


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@Jerryman: Not of his skin color, but his cock...


LOLWUT?!
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Mar 31, 2008 11:20 PM #106843
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Chapter 24: Verse 6: And for those who accuse their wives, but have no witnesses except themselves, let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies (i.e. testifies four times) by Allah that he is one of those who speak the truth.

Chapter 33: Verse: 59 O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever OftForgiving, Most Merciful.

It must really suck to be a Muslim woman.

Lolwut?

Understand that not all muslims follow these traditions/rules/instructions etc. Just because a book says they have control over their wife doesn't mean that they beat her. Just because book says that they should kill gays doesn't mean they actually do. They aren't bad people until they actually do these things.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:21 PM #106845
Which surat was it? Which verse or title did you click?

Because I really don't think Allah said that women need to cover their bodies with a Veil, but they shouldn't show tities, or ass, or anything reveling.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:23 PM #106848
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Understand that not all muslims follow these traditions/rules/instructions etc. Just because a book says they have control over their wife doesn't mean that they beat her. Just because book says that they should kill gays doesn't mean they actually do. They aren't bad people until they actually do these things.


I know that, just like a lot of Christians don't do the bad things that they are told to do in the bible. I'm just saying that its not all peachy like a lot of Muslims say it is, and its the same with Christianity.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:24 PM #106849
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I know that, just like a lot of Christians don't do the bad things that they are told to do in the bible. I'm just saying that its not all peachy like a lot of Muslims say it is, and its the same with Christianity.

K cool.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:28 PM #106854
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Which surat was it? Which verse or title did you click?

Because I really don't think Allah said that women need to cover their bodies with a Veil, but they shouldn't show tities, or ass, or anything reveling.


Woops, I gave you the wrong link.

Right link, lol.
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Mar 31, 2008 11:29 PM #106857
I saw this show where some people went around and asked others the first thing that came to mind when they said a word...

"Muslim!" - someone said terrorist, some said bomber, some said turbans,...etc shit like that. Just trying to show that the religion is very peaceful and nice, but the people that involve Allah in those bombings are none believers of their God.
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