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Jul 13, 2009 12:12 PM #458433
Are they inbuilt in humans via genes or evolution or are they a completely external thing that has come from religion.

Please don't drag on religion into this, this is specifically about morals and not the religion they come from.
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Jul 13, 2009 12:14 PM #458434
They have developed with the development of society, they're a result of relationships between humans.
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Jul 13, 2009 12:16 PM #458435
what the shit? how could you think it's ****ing genes or evolution? are you ****ing retarded. It's all society, you dumb nigger.
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Jul 13, 2009 12:18 PM #458436
Yeah, this isn't much of a debate. In greek, moralos or something like that means tradition, which mean it's behaviour like it's supposed to be regarding tradition.
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Jul 13, 2009 12:26 PM #458440
But somewhere that tradition had to have come from somewhere, was it just one very (forgot the word, when someone is very good at talking/convincing people) or are they pre-built into the human mind?
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Jul 13, 2009 12:28 PM #458442
and what the **** does that have to do with GENETICS, you dickhole.
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Jul 13, 2009 12:32 PM #458445
Quote from Steyene
But somewhere that tradition had to have come from somewhere, was it just one very (forgot the word, when someone is very good at talking/convincing people) or are they pre-built into the human mind?

They can't be pre-built, they're created when parents raise kids and teach them.
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Jul 13, 2009 2:45 PM #458503
Depends on how you define "morals". If you're defining them as learned, then obviously they're societal, but there are certain things we recognize as "morality" that ARE acquired from evolution, such as reciprocal altruism, preservation of close kin, especially family, and a general aversion to murder.

So, yes, certain ones are pre-built.
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Jul 17, 2009 1:54 AM #461354
we have a built in moral GENERAL aversion to murder? i don't buy that, nor do i endorse or condone its use
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Jul 17, 2009 1:56 AM #461357
Ash, is the murder you are speaking of loosely defined as killing without using the kill for resources, that is, killing without sound survival reasoning? Or what?
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Jul 17, 2009 2:05 AM #461371
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Ash, is the murder you are speaking of loosely defined as killing without using the kill for resources, that is, killing without sound survival reasoning? Or what?


Murder as in the killing of one's own species.
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Jul 17, 2009 2:31 AM #461411
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Murder as in the killing of one's own species.


Does that making everybody who killed somebody in a war a murderer?
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Jul 17, 2009 2:32 AM #461414
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Does that making everybody who killed somebody in a war a murderer?


Yes, yes it does.
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Jul 17, 2009 2:37 AM #461425
It makes you a murder in the eyes if the opponent, but a hero on the side you defend.
I think i discussed that a few years back.
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Jul 17, 2009 3:15 AM #461485
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Does that making everybody who killed somebody in a war a murderer?


Yes, it is.