Does anyone wan't to know a secret about flash?

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Bongoe
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Aug 1, 2009 1:21 AM #469397
what .
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Aug 1, 2009 1:35 AM #469406
Quote from Stormwalker
Thats a little ignorant as well.

I dont really see how it is much more useless than other programs on this site.

Lets say for example I have a very unsteady hand, I'm a very bad artist with a mouse and I don't have tablet.
Flash or easytoon wont really pose much of a use for me. But I suppose you can call it an amateur program because you wont go serious with it.


Fully informed opinion =/= ignorant
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Aug 1, 2009 2:21 AM #469414
ITT: People trying to say that pivot is better then flash.

Go back to the pivot section where you belong you asshats.
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Aug 1, 2009 2:53 AM #469421
Shut up Vincent.

Stormwalker, I dislike the argument that "pivot is a good starting place". Why not just start in flash, so you develop the basic skills early in your animating career instead of having to do it later which you switch from pivot? Or perhaps you won't even switch, because you can't be bothered learning flash. This leads to people only ever using pivot, and defeats the whole purpose of it being a beginner program.

It does deserve a little respect, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who has access to flash, a much deeper and more professional program. If you have both and choose pivot, then in my opinion you're ignorant or even arrogant.
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Aug 1, 2009 3:12 AM #469427
About the whole "I'm a bad artist so pivot is a better choice fo me" bullshit.

If you're a bad artist and you want to animate you should take into account that animation is a DRAWING art form. Unless you plan on dropping out of animation at pivot you'll be seeing a LOT of ****ing drawing around. I mean even for people who do stickfigures with line tool you have backgrounds and effects to draw.

Also if you plan on dropping out at pivot then I suggest you don't defend it KNOWING that the skills you aquire practicing in it gets you almost no where. Pivot is unique, but its so unique that it turns into a bad thing.

Stop it with this bullshit. It's not like Pivot has secret merits you know and we don't. It's takes simple logic and common sense to know what you're denying.
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Aug 1, 2009 10:52 AM #469513
Pivot sucks because it makes you a lazy animator. You can use it as a starting place, sure, but that'll hinder your progress more than you know. Start with Easytoon instead. It uses traditional frame-by-frame drawn animation, which is a discipline you must learn if you want to become a good animator.
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Aug 1, 2009 11:04 AM #469517
you guys realize that pivot uses similar concepts to those used in 3D animation, right?

the only difference is with 3D animation you move dots around IN THREE DIMENSIONS

also you only have to change every 10 or so frames instead of all of them and the program does the rest
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Aug 1, 2009 11:12 AM #469519
i think i might be the only one who thinks pivot is extremely difficult to animate with
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Aug 1, 2009 3:52 PM #469638
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oh yeah "Pivot just sucks balls .. lalalal... I win..." is such a good argument. Have you ever used it long-term and actually gotten good? If you haven't , I dont really think your opinion would be of much weight here.
Would anyone listen for just a second!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE TUTORIAL TEACHES YOU HOW TO MAKE PIVOT LOOK LIKE FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MAYBE IF PEOPLE READ THE WHOLE POST I WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET STEAMED ABOUT CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!man it gets anoying when people don't read everything.GOSH!!!:Dope:
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Aug 1, 2009 5:29 PM #469663
how to make pivot look like flash! but you need flash

why not just use flash in the first place? if you can't use it but want to animate you really just need to give up on life
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Aug 1, 2009 5:37 PM #469667
why would you want to make pivot look like flash.
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Aug 1, 2009 5:42 PM #469672
it shortens the time it takes of an animation
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Aug 1, 2009 6:22 PM #469686
Quote from master of animation
that's why you use flash to edit it!to show what the least pivot can do go to youtube and type in FIGHTERS OF DESTRUCTION PT 3 (UPDATED VERSION).


I just looked it up, that was terrible...