Well? Should we be able to clone? Is it inhumane, going against nature? Wouldn't be cool to have another you? You decide.

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I see nothing morally wrong with cloning, as long as we find a way to use AS cells and not ES cells for it.

I don't think that cloning myself would be very nice to my clone. What is the practical purpose of cloning exactly? I understand why you might want to clone extinct animals, and don't think that's inhumane or anything, but there's no reason to be cloning people.

Indeed Ash.

If you want more people, just have sex.
It's much more fun.

Well.... Like in star wars clone wars, they used clones for military purposes.

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Well.... Like in star wars clone wars, they used clones for military purposes.

1. this is not star wars
2. that would be considered inhumane

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I don't think that cloning myself would be very nice to my clone. What is the practical purpose of cloning exactly? I understand why you might want to clone extinct animals, and don't think that's inhumane or anything, but there's no reason to be cloning people.

Medicine .

Cloning yourself would be kinda dumb. The clone wouldn't get your personality, and you wouldn't want a duplicate of yourself smearing fingerprint evidence or dna evidence on a crime scene.

Clones would probably end up being used for testing products and military service.
I think the state we're in now, most clones also live short life spans and are more susceptible to illness.
If we can get past that and we wouldn't use them inhumanely (even if their minds and nervous systems were extracted in the cloning process somehow) then I'd be fine with it.

there are over ten thousand clones currently living in britain. identical twins=clones. identical twin and clones are the same thing, just created slightly differently. i think creating whole humans is morrally unethical. we already have an overflowing population and its against human rights to make a human for the sole purpose of experimentation. however, cloning organs/tissue ect. is a necessary accomplishment which will save lives and make many people happier. no humans though. artificial human cloning isn't a good thing.

Twins are paid well to be the subject of experiments in genetics because they can show how much of an influence DNA has over a certain medical condition by measuring the concordance rate between twins against that of the general population.

I see what you're saying, but huge batches of people with identical DNA would make these experiments much more reliable, and there's no reason the clones should suffer more than the twins. They can be allowed to live perfectly normal lives with any of the thousands of couples who are unable to have a child and looking to adopt. They would be paid for it, same as any twins.

"Noun
clone (plural clones)

1. A living organism (originally a plant) produced asexually from a single ancestor, to which it is genetically identical."

"Noun
identical twin (plural identical twins)

1. One of two siblings produced from the splitting of a single zygote."

Clones and twins are not the same.

Apart from that I almost agree with you, though. Cloning should mainly be used in order to clone organs and tissue for medicine, not actual whole human people, and absolutely not in order to experiment on those people. Though I know very little about it, I guess I think it should be okay for a couple that is unable to have children to get a clone instead. That way they can establish a family bond that might be unattainable if the adopt.

Alive, using a dictionary definition doesn't address the issue. The reason that we say "twins are clones" is because in a practical genetic sense, they are clones. They have identical DNA at birth, and the identical DNA they share grows different at the same rate as clones DNA does (Due to mutations)

The only differences are when the sample of DNA used for cloning was taken and whether the process was natural.

Oh, and about your earlier post in this thread, cloning people is very different from cloning whole people.

I see no business in cloning. If there was a real purpose to it that could help America or the world, I'd say do it. But since it costs a crap ton of money and really has no purpose (besides maybe learning more about our DNA or bodies) no point in the government shoving out millions of dollars to do it.

Could be done by that wonderful capitalist system. Drug companies might really want that research. Plus I think the question is more about whether we should be allowed than whether we should actually go through with it.