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Feb 21, 2010 3:55 AM #549287
Is there life on other planets?

Are we being watched by alien lifeforms?

What are your views on this subject?


please refrain from flaming debaters. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion

please refrain from spamming. this includes posting awnsers like "no ." or "Of corse there is! what do you think stars are made out of?"
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Feb 21, 2010 4:12 AM #549295
That all depends.

You have people that are into aliens and shit and thinking that they may be out there somewhere, and then you have normal people who would like to prove whether they exist or not.
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Feb 21, 2010 4:23 AM #549298
if we assume that the universe is infinite, then there is an infinite number of planets. if we look at our planet and say that it is the only one with life, then we are saying that our planet is 1/infinite. That isn't possible. There's no such thing as 1/infinite. Even if there were a billion planets with life, we'd be saying that these are 1,000,000,000/infinite. Still impossible. The only sensible conclusion is that there is an infinite number of planets with life, because only then does it make sense; infinite/infinite = 1 = an existing answer

disclaimer: i am entirely aware that my reasoning here is massively flawed but we'll soon find out who realizes this

so yeah
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Feb 21, 2010 4:35 AM #549302
I can't beleive I understood that ^_^

well played
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Feb 21, 2010 4:37 AM #549303
I believe. Other than the fact that I am a total crack-pot, I believe there can and is life out there.
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Feb 21, 2010 5:03 AM #549313
Quote from zer0gravity
Is there life on other planets?

Are we being watched by alien lifeforms?

What are your views on this subject?

i once wore a tin foil hat, too
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Feb 21, 2010 5:24 AM #549332
This is a debate, not my personal views.

Why do you feel the need to post? If you can't debate then don't post in the debate forum. It seems like comon sense to me.

Just going to quote myself here:
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Feb 21, 2010 7:20 AM #549375
Quit mini-modding, haha, just because it's your thread you can't expect everyone to follow the rules exactly how you want them to. Especially in a thread that's mistitled and not exactly a ground-breaking discussion topic. The mods will take care of the spammers.

I read somewhere that the conditions that allowed Earth to sustain life are extremely rare to have occurred together, but even "extremely rare" when applied to the billions and billions of universe means there are thousands of galaxies that, statistically, should have life-sustaining planets. And we've discovered planets (relatively) close that come close to those conditions.

We can't say for sure anything about the nature of the other life, whether they're sentient beings or just bacteria, but it's pretty ignorant to think we're the only life in the universe. And I think you'll find most people here agree with that.
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Feb 21, 2010 7:42 AM #549383
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Quit mini-modding, haha, just because it's your thread you can't expect everyone to follow the rules exactly how you want them to. Especially in a thread that's mistitled and not exactly a ground-breaking discussion topic. The mods will take care of the spammers.


k... I really am sorry. :Cry:

its just, I don't like GBS as it is. But it dosn't help when hes writing irelevant shit in my thread.

I won't try to be a mod again =S
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Feb 21, 2010 9:20 AM #549424
theres not much to SERIOUS DEBATE about since there's no real evidence that there is life on other planets.
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Feb 21, 2010 9:46 AM #549433
There's been life on planet Slippery-Q for sometime now, you bastard. :<
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Feb 21, 2010 2:58 PM #549496
Quote from Scarecrow
if we assume that the universe is infinite, then there is an infinite number of planets. if we look at our planet and say that it is the only one with life, then we are saying that our planet is 1/infinite. That isn't possible. There's no such thing as 1/infinite. Even if there were a billion planets with life, we'd be saying that these are 1,000,000,000/infinite. Still impossible. The only sensible conclusion is that there is an infinite number of planets with life, because only then does it make sense; infinite/infinite = 1 = an existing answer




so yeah


HHGTTG, no?

And, of course, there's that initial assumption which I may want to pick you up on...

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I read somewhere that the conditions that allowed Earth to sustain life are extremely rare to have occurred together, but even "extremely rare" when applied to the billions and billions of universe means there are thousands of galaxies that, statistically, should have life-sustaining planets. And we've discovered planets (relatively) close that come close to those conditions.

We can't say for sure anything about the nature of the other life, whether they're sentient beings or just bacteria, but it's pretty ignorant to think we're the only life in the universe. And I think you'll find most people here agree with that.


Anthropic principle. Just because there are relatively few planets that can support life like us, doesn't mean that a different kind of life that can stand different conditions hasn't appeared elsewhere. Not sure if that's what you were saying already or not. I agree with the second paragraph.
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Feb 21, 2010 5:28 PM #549523
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Anthropic principle. Just because there are relatively few planets that can support life like us, doesn't mean that a different kind of life that can stand different conditions hasn't appeared elsewhere. Not sure if that's what you were saying already or not. I agree with the second paragraph.


Er, I wasn't arguing against the idea of life being in other galaxies. Actual "life" as we know it requires certain conditions to be sustainable. Even with those conditions meaning maybe 1 in several million galaxies, there's somwhere around 50 billion galaxies that we can observe, so it's kind of hard not to think that there are at least thousands of galaxies that have similar livable conditions as Earth.

I didn't acknowledge the idea of other livable conditions because that's getting into ad ignorantum territory, there's no reason to think life can exist under different conditions than the ones we've examined just because we're unfamiliar with them. Or, well, you can think that all you want, but good luck having it hold up in a debate.
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Feb 21, 2010 5:49 PM #549530
I like putting it like this, something that Carl Sagan said once. If there are a billion billion billion planets in a given part of space, and the chances of one of those planets supporting life is one out of a billion, and the chances of life actually forming there is one out a billion, then there are at least a billion planets that support life in that area.



BTW, OP, it's "Extraterrestrial Life", not "External life".
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Feb 22, 2010 4:46 AM #549705
yeah...

I saw that after I posted it and now I can't change it...
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