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Mar 16, 2010 1:34 PM #556563
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Mar 16, 2010 3:39 PM #556574
...where does all the ocean's water come from?
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Mar 16, 2010 4:25 PM #556579
What evidence do they have for this?

EDIT: Wait, he thinks that because we get ancient fish fossils from the land, it means that there wasn't any ocean? Does this idiot not understand that it is A LOT HARDER to dig for fossils underwater? That the entire earth was once covered in water, and that his ridiculous hypothesis doesn't seem to account for this?

EDIT2: How does this idiot think that the matter inside the earth is appearing there? And if the mass of the earth is increasing, then how is it staying in orbit? If the earth were to increase in mass without decreasing in speed, it would have a decrease in orbital velocity and would fly out of orbit.
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Mar 16, 2010 4:31 PM #556580
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...where does all the ocean's water come from?


Maybe there were bigger clouds that contained much more water than they contain now, who knows
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Mar 16, 2010 5:06 PM #556583
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f the earth were to increase in mass without decreasing in speed, it would have a decrease in orbital velocity and would fly out of orbit.


Is he suggesting it's increasing in mass or just increasing in volume? Would that have an effect in its orbital velocity? I honestly don't know

I'm just playing devil's advocate, I doubt the earth is growing, mostly because of what ln3uq said, I can't see where all the oceanic water would come from if the earth was once a giant land mass.
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Mar 16, 2010 5:10 PM #556585
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Is he suggesting it's increasing in mass or just increasing in volume? Would that have an effect in its orbital velocity? I honestly don't know

I'm just playing devil's advocate, I doubt the earth is growing, mostly because of what ln3uq said, I can't see where all the oceanic water would come from if the earth was once a giant land mass.


Well it's possible that the earth could increase in size through the solidification of its molten outer core, but the rate that he wants the earth to increase in size would mean that the earth was cooling at an insane rate.
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Mar 16, 2010 5:16 PM #556588
Yeah, that's possible, though after reading about this I think he's suggesting chemical reactions in the core are accounting for the increase.. I'm not great with science so I can't really say for sure what he means.

It really doesn't matter one way or another, modern measurements dispute any claim towards this in the first place. It's a nice idea but I'm pretty sure the earth doubling in size in the course of a few hundred million years would have been something we could have scientifically picked up on.
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Mar 16, 2010 5:22 PM #556591
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Yeah, that's possible, though after reading about this I think he's suggesting chemical reactions in the core are accounting for the increase.. I'm not great with science so I can't really say for sure what he means.

It really doesn't matter one way or another, modern measurements dispute any claim towards this in the first place. It's a nice idea but I'm pretty sure the earth doubling in size in the course of a few hundred million years would have been something we could have scientifically picked up on.


Oh, but scientists HAVE picked up on it, but it's all part of this big conspiracy to keep it quiet because it'll change all of science as we know it!


I love how every time someone comes along with a new hypothesis that gets discredited, they call it censorship and say that there's a big conspiracy. They never understand that to be taken seriously, you have to go PUBLISH your findings in a REPUTABLE JOURNAL. Same thing that happened with the Intelligent Design crowd.
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Mar 16, 2010 5:52 PM #556597
I thought it was common knowledge the Earth is expanding... They even taught it in our science class...
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Mar 16, 2010 6:03 PM #556600
You might want to have your science teacher checked out. I'm pretty sure it wasn't on my syllabus.



Look at those graphics around 8:24 - 8:40. They've actually had to bend America back on itself to make it work.
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Mar 16, 2010 6:20 PM #556602
We had 2 lessons on tectonic plates. In one of the lessons he showed us how the continents fit together and that the Earth expanded, which is why we find fossils of things that shouldn't be there.
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Mar 16, 2010 6:30 PM #556604
They fit together, yeah, but with a ****load of ocean left over. The continents have moved, but the actual volume of the earth has remained constant (minus a tiny bit from asteroids).
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Mar 16, 2010 6:35 PM #556605
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I thought it was common knowledge the Earth is expanding... They even taught it in our science class...


Not to that degree. That's the issue, his expansion would require the earth to increase at so high a rate that it would have to be gaining mass, or else Mr. Freeze would have to be in the center of the earth, freezing up the core.
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Mar 16, 2010 9:59 PM #556635
The narrator sounds almost like the teacher from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

On another note, this isn't even debatable, it's stupid. It's like me saying China is overpopulated because the tectonic plates are squeezing together and making the country smaller.
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Mar 16, 2010 10:45 PM #556647
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The narrator sounds almost like the teacher from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

On another note, this isn't even debatable, it's stupid. It's like me saying China is overpopulated because the tectonic plates are squeezing together and making the country smaller.


ha! I agree with him, oh and qoute of the week.
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