scientific socialism, anyone is interested in this? Thoughts?

I will be after half an hour or so.

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I will be after half an hour or so.

:P breakfast?
On topic: The thing is, it sounds good in theory but in practice it'll most likely fail. Even democracy, which is often regarded as the best option, is good on paper but in reality is full of holes and jerky lawyers finding loopholes.

This is not going to work in most cases because of " observation to continue development".

Well the founders believed that eventually capitalism would result in socialism, but I don't really believe that.
And its really materialistic, some relate it to Utopian socialism, but to me it sounds definitely like a dystopic ideology.

Consider being in a class full of 30 students including yourself. You all take an exam and get a grade back. Technically, you achieved an A, however, the class is socialist and so an average of the results of the whole class is taken. You then end up with a B. The capitalist class next door would have let you take your A and be done with it.

Why shall we be interested? Someone tried it, and it was a fail.

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Consider being in a class full of 30 students including yourself. You all take an exam and get a grade back. Technically, you achieved an A, however, the class is socialist and so an average of the results of the whole class is taken. You then end up with a B. The capitalist class next door would have let you take your A and be done with it.

This is an awful analogy that doesn't have anything to do with socialism. "To each according to his contribution" is a core aspect of it which grants a larger portion of social output to those who are the most productive and technically knowledgeable in their field, while giving little to those who contribute less. And hierarchies are only established based on your skills and expertise.

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This is an awful analogy that doesn't have anything to do with socialism. "To each according to his contribution" is a core aspect of it which grants a larger portion of social output to those who are the most productive and technically knowledgeable in their field, while giving little to those who contribute less. And hierarchies are only established based on your skills and expertise.

I just read my post from a few months ago and was ashamed it came out of my mouth (or in this case, from my fingers?...). What I was referring to was communism, not socialism. I must have got the two confused.

Oh damn it, didn't notice it was an old post. oh well.

Speaking of which, I could have sworn I only found this subsection yesterday :S spooky...