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Feb 29, 2012 2:09 AM #609696
So I believe most of us are at that age where our brains have matured and we have a further understanding about the more complex things in life such as death and the impacts it can have.
I'm certain many of us have had a person in our lives pass away. Explain how the person died and the impact it had on you. Did one or both of your grandparents die from old age, or did you have a friend or family member who died in another fashion.

Recently this guy that I graduated with died. The family is telling people it was an allergic reaction of some sort, but the truth behind it is that he either overdosed on cocaine, or he got high and chocked on his own vomit.
I didn't know this fellow very well. I think I had one or two conversations with him, but he was always sort of a douche. Personal feelings aside, the impact this had on the family and close friends was immense.
I feel sort of bad for the guys girlfriend. She was a co-worker of mine. The day it happened we were both at work and I had just finished telling my store manager how where we work is like the drama headquarters of our town. Everything goes down here. Anyways. About thirty minutes before we got wind on the whole situation, I was talking to her and expressing my ideas about over population and how I think several million people just need to die...

As far as feeling bad about the guy dieing, it is tragic to see someone so young pass before it is their time. On the other hand, it's life.
We are all accountable for our actions. The only thing more tragic about this is how everyone automatically assumes that the deceased have moved on to Heaven.
I'm sorry but if there is such a place, this particular fellow is most likely burning in hell.
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Feb 29, 2012 3:29 AM #609708
Back in high school, someone in my grade committed suicide. It affected the entire school, faculty included. As a result, there was a week-long break from school for everyone to "reflect on the value of life and pray for the individual's family".

I couldn't possibly imagine why someone would take their own life (excluding extreme cases).

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As far as feeling bad about the guy dieing, it is tragic to see someone so young pass before it is their time. On the other hand, it's life.


...Or lack thereof.

Only kidding :>
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Feb 29, 2012 3:53 AM #609711
Should this be called the impact of death?
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Feb 29, 2012 12:45 PM #609787
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Back in high school, someone in my grade committed suicide. It affected the entire school, faculty included. As a result, there was a week-long break from school for everyone to "reflect on the value of life and pray for the individual's family".

I couldn't possibly imagine why someone would take their own life (excluding extreme cases).



...Or lack thereof.

Only kidding :>



Some freshman killed themselves this year (I'm not in school).
To my understanding it was because his mother wouldn't let him go see his girlfriend. Everyone felt bad for the kid, while I was the only person saying "he deserved to die if he's going to be that stupid".
Shit's crazy.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:16 PM #609794
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To my understanding it was because his mother wouldn't let him go see his girlfriend. Everyone felt bad for the kid, while I was the only person saying "he deserved to die if he's going to be that stupid".


I don't think that's anything worth being sympathetic over, but I think it's a stretch to say he deserved it.

It's beyond fucked up when teens kill themselves over shit they go through in high school. Absolutely everyone over the age of 18 will tell you how insignificant the entirety of your high school experience is relative to the rest of your life. It's fun, it's a big part of your transition into adulthood, but it's by no means important enough to kill yourself over.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:39 PM #609800
All 4 of my grandparents died. 1 before I was born, 2 when I was really young, and I can't remember any feeling I had because I probably didn't understand what was going on. The 4th one passed away when I was like 11-13. My father left the country to go to her funeral, but we all knew she was going to pass away soon anyway.
I've never been to a funeral, by the way. No friends or close family members of mine have died.

Speaking of highschool suicides, depression, and crap like that: I think I have it pretty well in high school. I go to a fairly small school, and all of my class are friends with each other. There isn't any exclusion or anything. There's nothing to really be depressed about. I think most schools should be like this. Lots of teens these days have barriers between sexes as well, for some reason. When a guy hangs out with a girl, people thing there's something romantic or sexual going on between them. What? I just like hanging out with friends. Like I said though, my school doesn't have those problems, so it's cool.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:43 PM #609802
If the situation was really that black and white where a perfectly normal teen decided the best course of action after being denied permission to see his girlfriend was to kill himself then yes, I'd say he deserved it. To be so selfish and not consider what his own girlfriend, relatives and close friends might go through after his death, and deciding so rashly that it was the best idea shows a lack of both intelligence and insight on this person's part. People that do this think that they're teaching the world a lesson by trying to show how everyone takes them for granted, that's stupid. If you can't handle that simple every-day situation, then you shouldn't continue existing.

However on that note I think there was probably more to the whole thing than just what appears on the surface. There are too many factors to be taken in to account to simply say that he deserved it when hearing a summary of the story like that.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:49 PM #609804
No, he wasn't trying to kill himself, he was just doing it for attention, but ended up killing himself in the process.
That's what a fourteen year-old would do. What I would have done is tell my parents to go to hell and gone and seen her anyways :/
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Feb 29, 2012 2:27 PM #609814
If I've learned anything from high school, it's that people are fucking liars. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation is a lot more complicated than that

But like Jeff said, if it wasn't, then yeah the kid is an idiot. Though that doesn't make it any less of a shitty situation.
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Feb 29, 2012 2:49 PM #609824
a few years ago my grandpa died. he only had one leg and he fell down the stairs and broke several bones like his pelvis and arm. he was in the hospital for some time and a after he'd been in there for a month they wouldn't let me or my father check up on him, a week later he died (most likly from all the fucking meds they gave him). my dad took it very hard, i took it pretty hard aswell. my youngest sister didnt. really, she didnt really know him. it was hard for my grandmother i hadnt seen her for a few months after the funeral. everyone is still pretty hurt about it, but we are healing.
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Feb 29, 2012 3:37 PM #609845
Why would he be walking down the stairs? He has one leg.

You need like, two of them. at least.
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Feb 29, 2012 3:48 PM #609852
Only 2 people I know that died was my uncle of lung cancer from smoking too much, and my grandad died in his sleep. I can't explain these things, but it was hard to deal with, but I got over it in a few weeks.

This isn't really death, but a friend of mine once got a glasgow smile off a dumb cunt at high school.... fucking horrible, if I'm right the dickhead who gave him it's still jailed. Still seeing the scars off that is just.......horrible.
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Feb 29, 2012 4:37 PM #609867
Is it wrong to be more upset over the death of a pet animal (my dog who has been been a part of my life for 15 years and I've grown really fond of), and care less about a grandparent I hardly knew passing away?

Is it odd to care for an animal more than a human?
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Feb 29, 2012 4:57 PM #609873
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Is it odd to care for an animal more than a human?


Grief is caused by personal loss. When your pet died, you lost a friend you've had for 15 years. When your grandfather died, you must not have lost much if you barely knew him.

Honestly I'd be more surprised if it was the other way around.
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Feb 29, 2012 7:21 PM #609941
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Is it wrong to be more upset over the death of a pet animal (my dog who has been been a part of my life for 15 years and I've grown really fond of), and care less about a grandparent I hardly knew passing away?

Is it odd to care for an animal more than a human?


Dude yessss. I went this exactly this a few years ago. It's even worse because I blame myself for my dog's death.

Now I'm sad, way to open old wounds.
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