I want to learn how to fight!

I can fight but I'm a bit scared sometimes.

I want to punch in the ****ing face as hard as I can so he will cry, THOSE BULLIES! >.<

A lot of people haven't seen me fight really serious lol. I haven't revealed myself, but one die they will all see my wrath. I can punch in the face and brake his jaw, or even his neck >:)

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Well IMO all styles are quite strong , but they differ a bit, like In Martial Arts it matters how long have you been practicing , since you learn alot of new moves and stuff , while on the other hand boxing makes you tough , so dealing with a boxer still wouldn't be peace of cake , and kick boxing i mean thats ****ing speed , but so is martial arts , so you never really know , it also depends on the person , and sometimes , you don't need practicing , if your strong enough and have alot of will it doesn't matter , i mean a punch in the face still hurts , right?

Boxing and Kick Boxing are martial arts. =. =

The point is not to take the punch in the face, but rather, to punch first/deflect or use that punch for your own advantage.

If you want to become a good fighter, you have to learn more than one martial art. Judo fighter and a boxer : http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDi-MPmcJ8

You'll see that a simple move like that will take out a boxer. In fact, that move has been banned from dojos as well as competitions because it breaks people knees often, it's a very dangerous move if you are fast and accurate.


"if your strong enough and have alot of will it doesn't matter"

Although will can be powerful, strength doesn't just do it all.

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I want to learn how to fight!

I can fight but I'm a bit scared sometimes.

I want to punch in the ****ing face as hard as I can so he will cry, THOSE BULLIES! >.<

A lot of people haven't seen me fight really serious lol. I haven't revealed myself, but one die they will all see my wrath. I can punch in the face and brake his jaw, or even his neck >:)

There are worse things than punching someone in the face, jaw, or neck. People don't exactly go up to you and point to their neck and wait for you to punch.

I noticed that many fights tend to end up in grappling positions. This is why I still take Judo, it's useful in those situations.

It's fine you want to show the bullies a lesson, many people start off that way, but there is a difference between self-defense and provoking someone else.

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Um,I think what the **** im talking about is that when your facing someone face to face the only best thing to do is takecover and use a weapon(best solution is too call the police while covering) just so you know..if your in a gun fight dont ever hide behind a car door youll die once the bullet hits the door...

Preffered fighting tech..Boxing/Taek kwon do try playing fighting games like def jam on ps2 ...its nice and youll learn a thing or too

You have no idea what you're talking about, so stop faking competence. They won't let you leave and take cover in a real situation. You either have to hurt them enough they decide you're not worth it, pin them, or know enough escape techniques to escape. If they have a gun give them what they want, there is no fool proof defense for a gun. If they have a knife try not to get into a confrontation and wait for the right opportunity to defend yourself.

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I want to learn how to fight!

I can fight but I'm a bit scared sometimes.

I want to punch in the ****ing face as hard as I can so he will cry, THOSE BULLIES! >.<

A lot of people haven't seen me fight really serious lol. I haven't revealed myself, but one die they will all see my wrath. I can punch in the face and brake his jaw, or even his neck >:)

The face jaw and neck are actually very hard to damage greatly, if you're in a self defense situation, focus attacks on the shins, temples, solorplex, elbows and knees. Their week points with alot of nerves. The solorplex is a prime target because if you hit it good, you can knock the wind out of him. giving you a chance to run. the crotch actually isn't a good spot to hit because 1. people tend to have instincts to protect them, and if you do hit there, you do nothing but piss them off more.



Martial arts give you and edge in a fight but never guarantee your safety in the end. Some help more than others, sports centered martial arts like Tae Kwon Do, Karate, or even boxing usually don't help much. They teach you how to drive power behind strikes and how to block and dodge, but only to certain extent, not dealing with pins and street defense much. Self defense based martial arts like Jui Jitsu or Judo help alot in self defense situation. I take Tae kwon do and have a black belt, I also used to take some jui jitsu. My jui jistu instructor has been mugged before and he was able to pin his attacker, seize the weapon, and pull out his phone all in a split second. [I've seen show how to do it to a student so I know this is true.] He even told us that at any time we could attempt to "mug" him. We tried and ended up on the mat in a split second. Keep in mind that at the time I was a black belt at the time...

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You're talking total bullshit that I don't understand at all.

Cool...you understand bullshit talk?You can really bullshit then..This thread is about fighting you fagg not talking

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They won't let you leave and take cover in a real situation. You either have to hurt them enough they decide you're not worth it, pin them, or know enough escape techniques to escape. If they have a gun give them what they want, there is no fool proof defense for a gun. If they have a knife try not to get into a confrontation and wait for the right opportunity to defend yourself.


The face jaw and neck are actually very hard to damage greatly, if you're in a self defense situation, focus attacks on the shins, temples, solorplex, elbows and knees. Their week points with alot of nerves. The solorplex is a prime target because if you hit it good, you can knock the wind out of him. giving you a chance to run. the crotch actually isn't a good spot to hit because 1. people tend to have instincts to protect them, and if you do hit there, you do nothing but piss them off more.



Martial arts give you and edge in a fight but never guarantee your safety in the end. Some help more than others, sports centered martial arts like Tae Kwon Do, Karate, or even boxing usually don't help much. They teach you how to drive power behind strikes and how to block and dodge, but only to certain extent, not dealing with pins and street defense much. Self defense based martial arts like Jui Jitsu or Judo help alot in self defense situation. I take Tae kwon do and have a black belt, I also used to take some jui jitsu. My jui jistu instructor has been mugged before and he was able to pin his attacker, seize the weapon, and pull out his phone all in a split second. [I've seen show how to do it to a student so I know this is true.] He even told us that at any time we could attempt to "mug" him. We tried and ended up on the mat in a split second. Keep in mind that at the time I was a black belt at the time...

Yeah..thats true though best tech is run =|
If your traped...your nerves would freak out and you would start bleeding...and you wouldn't know what you are doing cause your freaking out.So,it's either you die from freaking out or you just have dumb luck and catch him someway =|.It's part of science..usually when you get hurt by a possibilaty such as gunshot/deep wound/open wound/flesh wound your body will send a pain signal to your pain nerves and cover it with somekind of thing I forgot the name.Although this is not about techniques to help you in a real situation,this also will help you because sensation can stop pain.Don't think about the pain and consontrate on surviving at that time.Once your safe...you caught him...everything went well,Sensation is no more in your brain.The goo thing that blocks the pain signals are unblocked and you'll feel pain..

Thats how your brain works...No.1 Advice...Try to run from danger and be smart and call the police.

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I just don't believe in using only one linear martial art for self defense. That stiff body stance and Karate chop will not really get you anywhere if the guy charging at you.

I wouldn't want to be in the guys shoes if ya had an umbrella.Hes charging at you..you have an umbrella.It's raining...I really dont know how he would die,It's either he slips,fall then die.Or either he just run in to your umbrella.

WARNING:Dont ever...EVER...charge into someone if their holding a gun.Its like yaaaarrrghhh!!!!*I AM SPARRRTTTAAAA* *BANG BANG* OOOOWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAYAAAAHHAAAII!!! *I AM DDDEEEAAADDDD!!!*

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if you get pinned down, yeah, judo can help you, but you could just get on top and a) start hammering him with punches, or b) start kneeing the guy in the kidneys

practicing a certain martial art doesn't necessarily mean you're going to own the fight, i'm pretty sure all of you know that

where i live, everyone here just wrestles and boxes, so yeah, that could help

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Cool...you understand bullshit talk?You can really bullshit then..This thread is about fighting you fagg not talking

You don't seem to understand what the thread is about. He was saying that your post made no sense and didn't apply to the topic of discussion. And this thread IS about talking. its the DEBATE section, we're supposed to be debating if martial arts helps you in a real life situation.

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Yeah..thats true though best tech is run =|
You didn't listen, they wouldn't let you run in a real situation, they would ambush you and pin you in some way, if its one guy they would generally pin you in against a wall. If its two or more guys, on would probably get you into a pin, and the other would have a weapon of some sort. You wouldn't be able to run first thing, thats where the martial arts come in. Sure you want to run and get help, but they wouldn't let you.
If your traped...your nerves would freak out and you would start bleeding... and you wouldn't know what you are doing cause your freaking out.So,it's either you die from freaking out or you just have dumb luck and catch him someway =|.
Not true, if a martial artist was trapped in that situation, they wouldn't freak, the martial arts give you a sort of sense of mind to prepare for those situations, the first thing that would run through my mind if I was mugged on the street would be, does he have a weapon, and if so, how can I get a hold of it. Its not dumb luck unless your attacker happens to be a retard and is mugging you with a rubber chicken.
It's part of science..usually when you get hurt by a possibilaty such as gunshot/deep wound/open wound/flesh wound your body will send a pain signal to your pain nerves and cover it with somekind of thing I forgot the name. Although this is not about techniques to help you in a real situation,this also will help you because sensation can stop pain.Don't think about the pain and consontrate on surviving at that time.Once your safe...you caught him...everything went well,Sensation is no more in your brain.The goo thing that blocks the pain signals are unblocked and you'll feel pain..
The point is to not get hit in the first place
Thats how your brain works...No.1 Advice...Try to run from danger and be smart and call the police.
You didn't listen. YOU CAN'T RUN. If you get into a fight with someone and you try to run, they'll chase you and catch you before you can get help. And chances are they'll pin you in some position so that you can't run and your only choice is to fight back. The best thing to do is to escape thier grasp [iof they pin you] pin them [if they have a melee weapon] seize their weapon, then call for help. Making as much noise as you can in the process. If you go AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHH!!!! While fighting someone, some heads will turn in your direction and someone will call the cops. If they have a gun pointed at you, you're ****ing screwed, give them what they want, don't make sudden movements, and simply tell them you don't want trouble. If they want your car keys, give it to them, if they want your house keys, give it to them. Those can be replaced and you'll probably get them back when their caught anyway. Just don't fight back if they have a gun or you WILL get shot and possibly killed.

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I wouldn't want to be in the guys shoes if ya had an umbrella.Hes charging at you..you have an umbrella.It's raining...I really dont know how he would die,It's either he slips,fall then die.Or either he just run in to your umbrella.

WARNING:Dont ever...EVER...charge into someone if their holding a gun.Its like yaaaarrrghhh!!!!*I AM SPARRRTTTAAAA* *BANG BANG* OOOOWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAYAAAAHHAAAII!!! *I AM DDDEEEAAADDDD!!!*

An umbrella wouldn't help you much honestly, its to flimsy to be used as a weapon , even for stabbing. It be better for a distraction, you could throw it towards their face while its open then drop down and strike low.

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if you get pinned down, yeah, judo can help you, but you could just get on top and a) start hammering him with punches, or b) start kneeing the guy in the kidneys

practicing a certain martial art doesn't necessarily mean you're going to own the fight, i'm pretty sure all of you know that

where i live, everyone here just wrestles and boxes, so yeah, that could help

Yeah if you get into a fight you WILL get hurt, either bruised or cut. But knowing martial arts gives you an edge in the fight, but if you're fighting like a 300 pound man and you only way about 150, your chances of beating him go down, despite contrary belief size DOES matter. The more body weight you have, the more solid and muscular you are, even if you're mostly fat. think about it, a 20 pound weight hurts when its dropped on your foot from 3 feet, but a 200 pound weight hurts relatively the same when dropped form only half a foot. Same applies to punches and kicks. If I get hit by a 150 pound man with his fist moving at lets say 35 miles per hour, it would hurt. But if a 300 pound man only punched me with 15-20 miles an hour it would hurt about the same. [I know I used to have a friend who was also a martial artist who was roughly 300 pounds, his punches hurt like hell and he was hitting at the same speed as everyone else.]

wouldn't the thinner dude just dodge the fat guy's punch?

but i guess it depends on how fit you are as a person

Fat doesn't always mean slow. Thinner people usually are faster yes, but the doesn't mean that the fat guy can't hit him. Trust me, I'm a thin person, everyones always surprised when they hear how much I weigh [about 110, and I'm nearly 16] and I have a friend who weighs somewhere in the 300 mark. We used to spar, and I didn't like sparring him because he was so big, the only thing I could do to stop him from hitting me was to back off, whenever I would go in to hit him, I would get a couple punches and a kick or two in, he would barely move, then he would simply punch me in the chest and I get knocked half way across the ring. Bigger people have an advantage in a fight. It is possible for a midget to take down a 300-400 pound man, if the midget knows how and if the 300-400 pound man doesn't know how to defend himself from that way how. But its very unlikely for that to happen.

Depends actually, fat people tend to lose in endurance matches. The more fat and muscle on an arm means the more force you have to throw it with, and thus, the more energy you have to use.

But in turn the more you move as a fat person the more muscle you get to throw your fat around. And its not like you become fat overnight, you slowly become fat and as you do your muscles are growing to allow you to be able to handle that fat. You should be able to move at relatively the same speed if you got into a fight unless you were massivly obese. [like 500+ pounds]. Your muscles would be able to handle it, but for as long, and if their hitting you with those powerful punches by the time they get tired you'll be in a coma. The only time that would aid you when it comes to endurance would be if you escape the fight and you're trying to run away.

But in turn the more you move as a fat p

erson the more muscle you get to throw your fat around. And its not like you become fat overnight, you slowly become fat and as you do your muscles are growing to allow you to be able to handle that fat. You should be able to move at relatively the same speed if you got into a fight unless you were massivly obese. [like 500+ pounds]. Your muscles would be able to handle it, but for as long, and if their hitting you with those powerful punches by the time they get tired you'll be in a coma. The only time that would aid you when it comes to endurance would be if you escape the fight and you're trying to run away.


Ok dude im talking behalf of stickmaycry and btw...This is my brothers account why am i using it?Itz cuz he countered me and hacked it =| changing my pass tommorow..and I am using his account ok my responese

Hey ok i understand thanks for the advice and really?Martial arts is very interesting..hmm

Usually a fat person would get very VERY tired when they run..When your a thin person..you have more stamina and less weight but if the fat dude is in a real fight and panicking..basicly he would just jump on you >.>
yeah..smash,squat,blam,keboom w/e..The main thing is..fighting a fat dude is actually simple..run around..make him tired..then just give him a kick in the head n lesson learned..And ill repeat again

You have an advantage and so does the fat dude..The fat dude can hit you hard yeah I know..

But you got more stamina..Just run and make him tired..he has a gun (if)..

@Gun...woah..dude..no comment on a fat dude holding a gun..its like click chick boom bam baby..your on de floor..

If your asking...A sumo wrestler..=| What I would honestly do...

Throw sushi or anything that is digestable...throw a chair..he may try to digest..who knows?Face to face..first thing he would do is just jump on you...Yeah..thats all

Well actually, in UFC 4, Royce Gracie (176lb) fought Dan Severn (250 lb) and beat him with a triangle choke at 15:49. This is when the UFC didn't have weght catagories and didn't have gloves. Everyone thought that Dan Severn would win because of his Greco-roman wrestling background, and his huge weight advantage. So weight doesn't always matter if you're expirienced in fighting.

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"if your strong enough and have alot of will it doesn't matter"

Although will can be powerful, strength doesn't just do it all.

Wrong! Thats quite silly to say , you cant defeat a strong guy with just will , with will you will have bravery to fight him even knowing him better , but without strength you cant do much. A good combo is a Smart + Strength + Will , since you have to be smart in a fight , yes you do , of course you can go all "bum's rush" but a smart person will hit a stronger persons weak point (not the nuts ,i mean thats the lowest of low) , without strength you cant even affect him. And also using strong limbs vs weak points is very effective.