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Feb 8, 2013 6:09 PM #877012
Nothing wrong with a little rape here and there. Especially if its done right.
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Feb 8, 2013 7:49 PM #877060
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What genres do you guys like?
Mine is mainly action, harem, comedy, adventure. Though nowadays it tilts more towards comedy harem


according to this http://mal.oko.im "Mystery, Mecha, Psychological, Thriller, Sci-Fi, Drama, Military, Dementia, Space, Adventure"
which is totally wrong... I much prefer deconstructionism, postmodernism, and post-harem :rolleyes: also i hate mecha
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Feb 9, 2013 3:13 AM #877551
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Nothing wrong with a little rape here and there. Especially if its done right.


If you say so.
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Feb 9, 2013 3:17 AM #877558
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Btooom is like the childish, shonen-ised battle royale. It's pretty entertaining lol. And yes I like the op too.

Lol, btooom
I read the manga,
it was trying very hard to be a not very good Battle Royale with more explosions.
would make a great Nicholas Cage movie
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also i hate mecha

Amen
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Feb 9, 2013 3:29 AM #877574
I also hate mecha, just watch one or two of em....
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Feb 9, 2013 5:33 AM #877667
when the main theme of the show is just "mecha" it bores the shit out of me. a lot of great anime has just has mecha elements, but i would absolutely not seek out "mecha", i just have no interest in the actual robot fights and piloting.
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Feb 9, 2013 6:21 AM #877728
dragon ball
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Feb 9, 2013 6:24 AM #877730
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TTGL is full blown mecha in the exact way you described to bore the shit out of you, and you seemed to really like that. NGE is centralized on piloting and fighting mechs too. The whole psychological trip is because of mechs and the shit the pilots have to put up with them. All of Code Geass's strategic movements revolve around piloting mechas. Canti is a big part of FLCL and its most memorable moments are during the climaxes of each episode. These are all full on mecha shows, take out the robots in any of these and you've got nothing. They'll show up when you search for best mecha anime. IDK what you're saying.

take out the robots and you've got nothing? are you kidding me? I like those shows for the drama, characters, and story, not the action sequences. I didn't even know TTGL was considered a mecha the first time I watched it because the robots are so unconventional. There is barely any "mecha" in FLCL at all; it's mostly a comedy and the memorable scenes are largely without Canti. You could replace the robots with aliens or some shit and it could serve the same purpose. No way it's a "full-on" mecha show. Most of what I liked about Code Geass was Lelouche's strategies in controlling situations rather than tactics in controlling mechas in fights. It's not centered around the action scenes as much as it's centered around the drama of setting up a decisive situation like chess. FLCL is hardly mecha, seriously. NGE gets called a deconstruction of the mecha genre; most mecha is absolutely not like NGE. The best scenes aren't EVA fights, in fact, I barely remember any real fights. There was usually just a principle that surrounded a character. The "mechs" were almost alive, too.

What defines the mecha genre is the focus on robots. I'm not interested in the robots themselves, and am thus not interested in what the genre's about. I've just liked shows that contained robots for other aspects which I've mentioned before. The most memorable scenes is Code Geass are absolutely not the ones where they're piloting mechas.

The whole "psychological trip" in EVA is not because of the mechs, it's because of the characters. It's not because Shinji has to "put up with" his mech, it's because he has to put up with himself and those around him. He has to take responsibility for himself and learn to let other people in emotionally. That was kind of the plot of the show. The AT fields were symbolic, among other things.

The "mecha" I like are extremely unique and atypical for the genre. Popular mecha that is more known for being mecha like Gundam, GaoGaiGar, and Getter Robo never interested me because they're too big on the robots. When the anime is focused around the idea of battles, it just bores me. I never watched Macross because I was under the impression that it was too much of a mecha thing. I've never watched Ghost In The Shell because it seems boring. I would much prefer the anime to be centered around something such as drama or sci-fi and be classified primarily as a drama or sci-fi, rather than have the primary classification of "mecha" because the main thing that stands out about the anime are the robots and how cool their battles are. Being part of the genre just seems to make the anime more boring to me because it's an aspect that I don't care for.
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Feb 9, 2013 6:34 AM #877740
The only thing I watched for Mecha is Iron Man series, which isn't an anime.
Other than that.....It was boring as hell.
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Feb 9, 2013 6:41 AM #877751
like honestly, the kind of mecha that I have rated highly can be described as "mecha for people who don't like mecha"
mecha was a hugely popular genre in the 90's, but it's an area that I'll never delve into because I just don't like the concept.

y'all know this is just my opinion, right?
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Feb 9, 2013 7:13 AM #877805
My statement and assertion was that I don't like the mecha genre.

I do like a couple of mecha shows by definition, but not because of the mecha. Some might even be primarily classified as other things. I never said that they weren't mecha; I said that just because I like them, it doesn't mean that I like the genre. What was so difficult to understand about that? You're arguing points that were beside the point. You can't remove the mecha from anime like TTGL, but the audience is not drawn in because they're fans of the robots. The climax is so good because of the passion of the human characters and their ambition. The fighting is fucking galaxy-wide with a bunch of colorful explosions where everything is so grandiose that you're not going to find anything like it by watching more mecha. I'm not interested in the genre. I view an anime being classified as mecha as a negative trait when considering watching it, because I prefer the sci-fi or drama to revolve around something else. However, if it is an element in the show, it's not boring when it's not the forefront. I don't remember TTGL as robot fight after robot fight with tactics and piloting skills, I remember it as extremely memorable characters and dramatic situations. EVA fights being a side part of NGE doesn't mean you can remove them, it just means that they weren't what the plot focused on, and they weren't. Maybe you should watch the show again. I don't think you've seen many, if any, non-Gainax mecha. Japan isn't known for "giant robots" for nothing, you know. Cliche mecha anime are quite plentiful, and I have absolutely no interest in watching through a series because of the mecha. What are you trying to do, tell me what I like? That because I like three anime with more or less mecha aspects, I have to like the genre? Because I don't.
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Also your opinion is you hate mecha when you have about three mecha shows that you like because they don't have very many typical mecha aspects, but rather focus on other things, two of which are almost parodying mecha. ooook

ftfy

Note: NGE deconstructs the genre while focusing on philosophical concepts and emotional problems, while TTGL intentionally takes mecha cliches to such ridiculous extremes that it sort of becomes apart from the genre in the visceral and visual aspects, and I still don't consider FLCL to be a mecha.
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Feb 9, 2013 7:50 AM #877864
Cant we all just hold hand and hate on naruto?
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Feb 9, 2013 8:05 AM #877880
The technicality of it being in the mecha genre doesn't matter when considering whether or not I like that genre. It like if I went "I hate harem, but I still really liked Bakemonogatari and Clannad After Story." and then you went "Hey, those are technically harems too, so you can't hate that genre!" "But they didn't really feel like harems..." "THAT DOESN'T MATTER AND DOESN'T MAKE THEM ANY LESS OF HAREMS, IF YOU HATE HAREM THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU WATCH THEM??!" "They're highly recommended in a way that transcends genres."

You're treating it like it's black and white, like if TTGL is in the genre and it's popular, then it IS the genre. No, it's ONE anime in a gigantic genre, and one of the most different in there. I could watch Gundam and look for drama scenes, but the fact that there is so much MECHA would bore me. I could look for drama in TTGL and be completely satisfied ten times over. I don't know if you saw my edit, but I wrote:
NGE deconstructs the genre while focusing on philosophical concepts and emotional problems, while TTGL intentionally takes mecha cliches to such ridiculous extremes that it sort of becomes apart from the genre in the visceral and visual aspects, and I still don't consider FLCL to be a mecha.

Basically saying that these anime are not mecha in the traditional sense at all and challenge the vast, vast majority of the genre by revolving around such unique and contrarian aspects that someone who hates mecha can enjoy them. It's not hard to find tons of people who love EVA but have no interest in mecha, or hate it. It's not popular or memorable because of the mecha, and I don't know how many times I need to repeat that. EVA would be one of the first shows that come to mind when someone who doesn't watch mecha thinks "mecha". Big parts of the genre would legitimately be mecha anime that influenced and shaped the history of mecha anime, like Gundam. I've seen people say "I don't like mecha but NGE and TTGL are some of my favorite anime" and it's ALWAYS fucking NGE and TTGL, maybe Code Geass. Because those are the key anime that take mechs and put them in a completely inventive and unique show.

What defines liking a genre, to you? If you like a couple of shows in the genre (NOTE: POPULARITY =/= REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENRE. THEY'RE POPULAR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT LIKE MOST OF THE GENRE. ALL OF IT, ACTUALLY.) then you like it? How about if you pick out a random anime from the genre, you have a higher likelihood of being interested in it than not because that genre provides a lot of interesting shows in your opinion? If you wouldn't be interested in most of the genre, then you probably don't like it. If you wouldn't be interested in most of any genre, you probably don't like anime. Comparatively, less mecha interests me than any other genre.

You act like you're trying to defend mecha because a lot of other mecha is like TTGL. Yeah, totally. Show me some examples, what have you watched?

Hating romance but liking Clannad is a shitty comparison because Clannad follows a typical romantic structure and has typical romantic scenes. Clannad is not some spin on the romance genre that makes people mistake it as not being romance. NGE and TTGL both are for mecha, and it makes them popular. It doesn't make them the main staples of mecha or something.

Liking the drama, characters, and even the action in a supposedly mecha anime because they don't feel like mecha, they feel entirely unique and almost outside the genre =/= Liking the genre
How about instead of saying "I hate mecha", I say "I hate mecha except for a couple of really weird ones that are completely different from everything else and gained cult followings because of it"
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Feb 9, 2013 8:47 AM #877918
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Cant we all just hold hand and hate on naruto?

Why the hell do you hate Naruto?
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Feb 9, 2013 8:48 AM #877920
because it's a gateway anime of the worst kind.
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