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Apr 29, 2008 9:43 PM #126003
Smoking makes you look cool because all the coolest characters in movies do it. It has proven to relax the body, and it tastes good to some people. I don't smoke personally because smoke gives me a headache.
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Apr 29, 2008 9:46 PM #126005
Almost everyone around where I live who smokes is ugly.
I don't rightly know if the smoking caused that, or some astronomically unlikely coincedence occured.

Either way, I've sort of learned to associate ugliness with smoking.
Besides, I never thought it looked cool, standing there sucking on a burning stick.
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Apr 29, 2008 9:50 PM #126008
There sure as hell is no relation between smoking and ugliness. That's just total dumb motherfucking shit.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:00 PM #126013
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There sure as hell is no relation between smoking and ugliness. That's just total dumb motherfucking shit.


Quote from "Department of Dermatology, University Hospital of Zürich, Switzerland"
Besides being the single most preventable cause of significant morbidity and an important cause of death in the general population, tobacco smoking has been associated with adverse effects on the skin. Smoke-induced premature skin ageing has attracted the attention of the medical community, while only recently an observational study has indicated a significant relationship between smoking and baldness. The mechanisms by which smoking causes hair loss are multifactorial and are probably related to effects of cigarette smoke on the microvasculature of the dermal hair papilla, smoke genotoxicants causing damage to DNA of the hair follicle, smoke-induced imbalance in the follicular protease/antiprotease systems controlling tissue remodeling during the hair growth cycle, pro-oxidant effects of smoking leading to the release of pro-inflammatory cytokines resulting in follicular micro-inflammation and fibrosis and finally increased hydroxylation of oestradiol as well as inhibition of the enzyme aromatase creating a relative hypo-oestrogenic state. In view of the psychological impact of androgenetic alopecia on affected men and women, increasing public awareness of the association between smoking and hair loss offers an opportunity for health education against smoking that may be more effective than the link between smoking and facial wrinkles or grey hair, since the latter can be effectively counteracted by current aesthetic dermatologic procedures, while treatment options for androgenetic alopecia are limited.

You were saying?

Oh, and by the way, There was no reason to go off like that.
If you'll take a moment and reflect upon my post:
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I don't rightly know if the smoking caused that (the ugliness), or some astronomically unlikely coincedence occured.

You'll see I was drawing no conclusions.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:08 PM #126024
some astronomically unlikely coincedence occured.


*cough cough*

All those effects aren't obsolete. Some people get totally fucked up from smoking, others don't get any negative effects at all.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:14 PM #126027
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Why do you drink coke?


Coke doesn't directly/indirectly cause over 30% of the deaths in developed countries and kill about 450,000 people in the US every year

I personally don't care if you do it but don't rationalize the use of it by comparing one of the leading causes of death to a drink.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:18 PM #126034
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*cough cough*

All those effects aren't obsolete.

I think you mean Absolute?
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Some people get totally fucked up from smoking, others don't get any negative effects at all.


Quote from "Division of Dermatology, McGill University, Montreal, Quebec, Canada"
METHODS: A literature review was based on a MEDLINE search (1966-2004) for English-language articles using the MeSH terms cutaneous, dermatology, tobacco, skin, and smoking. An additional search was subsequently undertaken for articles related to smoking and associated mucocutanous diseases, with the focus on pathogenesis and epidemiologic data. Articles presenting the highest level of evidence and latest reports were preferentially selected. RESULTS: Smoking is strongly associated with numerous dermatologic conditions including poor wound healing, wrinkling and premature skin aging, squamous cell carcinoma, psoriasis, hidradenitis suppurativa, hair loss, oral cancers, and other oral conditions. In addition, it has an impact on the skin lesions observed in diabetes, lupus, and AIDS.


Seems that almost no one who smokes heavily is completely secured against adverse skin effects.

All I'm doing is refuting your obviously weak statement that "Smoking can not cause ugliness".
It can and it does.
I'm not going to argue about how often or percentages of people who experience these effects.
End of argument.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM #126050
He has a point catfan, you need to find out from both sides of the argument, a lot of those organizations lie straight out.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:37 PM #126056
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we should hav da skoos telling propaganda and lies


I'd agree if they truly spread lies.
I have yet to see an anti drug commercial that lied.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:39 PM #126057
I don't agree with those DARE things. All they do is try to scare little kids into not doing drugs. I think it would have a better effect if they just gave the facts straight out and then left it up to people to decide. But anyways, let's try not to veer off onto the drug aspect, I am only talking about cigarrettes. Chewing tobacco can be added as well.
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Apr 29, 2008 10:55 PM #126065
everyone knows smoking is bad, i find it laughable when sometimes people i know try to rationalize it and say its great. i hate it.
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Apr 29, 2008 11:36 PM #126089
meh never done it, probaly will, problay wont do it again.
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Apr 30, 2008 12:48 AM #126126
smoking is terrible for your body and will make your skin worse and your teeth yellow and stuff like that if you do it enough. i'm gonna go have a cigarette right now.
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Apr 30, 2008 3:05 AM #126201
Yeah, but unlike other unhealthy things, such as cake, cigarrettes, like, slowly destroy your lungs, and you can get lung cancer. It's really a stupid idea in general to smoke because first of all, no, it doesn't make you look cool, and, second of all, it hurts the people around you (second-hand smoke). If you eat a lot of cake or something, sure, you get fat and unhealthy, but you can get healthy again by eating a good diet and exercizing regularly. If you smoke, you get unhealthy but you can't get healthy again... There's nothing you can do about it... No hope for life... Aaah... You get the drift. Smoking=uncool and stupid.
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Apr 30, 2008 3:09 AM #126204
20 years after quitting smoking virtually every negative side effect and increased risk for disease is gone, aside from minor lung damage.