Is god evil?

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Oct 24, 2012 3:18 PM #767785
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As for life being a "test", tests are supposed to be fair. If everyone gets a different test, what's the point? I'm talking about how some people are born in rich christian families, and others in poverty.

I totally agree with this.

Also, even if there was a god, that loves all the people n stuff, wouldn't he want everyone to live their lives like they want? And not after all these rules religions impose.
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Oct 24, 2012 6:18 PM #767920
But..... What would be the purpose of life, if we can live happy here doing everything we want ._.
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Oct 24, 2012 6:27 PM #767937
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But..... What would be the purpose of life, if we can live happy here doing everything we want ._.


the purpose of life is to pass down your genes by procreating.
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Oct 24, 2012 6:33 PM #767943
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the purpose of life is to pass down your genes by procreating.



Lol, that's not a good purpose if you ask me x3
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Oct 24, 2012 6:34 PM #767946
"the purpose of life...is to end" smith from the matrix series
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Oct 24, 2012 6:38 PM #767950
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But..... What would be the purpose of life, if we can live happy here doing everything we want ._.


For me it is, being happy. That's it. Satisfaction. Being satisfied with your life. Yeah.
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Oct 24, 2012 6:40 PM #767952
you cant stisfitedwith a life that you know it will end by death...just death !
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Oct 24, 2012 6:47 PM #767962
Grrrr i can't explain it here... I don't know how to explain it anyway

Unless you all understand spanish =D
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Oct 24, 2012 6:50 PM #767963
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you cant stisfitedwith a life that you know it will end by death...just death !


So what? Does that mean you gonna sit in a corner do nothing and just wait until death because you "know" you can't be happy/satisfied with your life?
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Oct 24, 2012 6:57 PM #767974
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If he was actively evil, however, I think we could safely say that things would be worse. You can imagine a world where after a man's seventh orgasm his penis drops off and he dies from blood loss. Therefore we can rule out a malevolent God.


You can't define a maximum state of evil, though, so that idea doesn't rule out anything.


Let's try looking at a specific scenario: Many of god's followers are needlessly subjected to unimaginable suffering. Hitler, anyone? It's a cliche, but that's still a great example. Or the barbaric surgical experiments done on prisoners of war without anaesthesia. Natural disasters. Disease. I could go on.

A malevolent god could very well make things MUCH worse. But the way things are, billions of people actively praise unconditional love for him. We congregate en masse, sing songs of praise and worship to him, build monuments for his glory... even though his followers frequently suffer from tragedies completely beyond their control, without reason or warning. Horrible shit happens, but we don't hate him for it. And when good things do happen, he gets credit for it, even though it's never clear that he did anything at all.

That sounds evil as fuck to me.
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Oct 24, 2012 7:05 PM #767986
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Lol, that's not a good purpose if you ask me x3

it doesn't have to be good.
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Oct 24, 2012 7:51 PM #768017
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Lol, that's not a good purpose if you ask me x3


Why do you care so much about a "purpose"? Are you that incapable of creating your own purpose in life?
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Oct 24, 2012 8:11 PM #768029
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But..... What would be the purpose of life, if we can live happy here doing everything we want ._.


The purpose of life huh? I think everyone has a personal purpose to exist. There is no "universal meaning of life." It's only meaningful, if you give it meaning.
Why don't you just kill yourself? Surely it's not JUST because you believe that a man sitting on a cloud will hate you and burn you forever if you do, right?

My purpose in life is to entertain and create art for other people and myself. That makes me happy, and if I can leave my mark in history, that is awesome. If not, at least I died doing what I loved.
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Oct 24, 2012 9:06 PM #768086
Well if I hadn't made it obvious enough I am Christian and I want to post here to not only share my opinion on here about the whole God being evil thing but also I wanna get something off my chest...

Just to clarify one thing I do not love God...

I don't like or dislike Him I simply just abide by his rules and study what I believe he wants us to learn from and live by... I believe he is a neutral force and his intentions and or feelings toward humanity are unexplainable by human definitions... I believe he does many great things for us just as he does bad...
Generally each human being's perception of the world often differs from another making it hard to really tell whether God is trying to make our existence more miserable or instead giving us hope and the courage to move on despite or smallest or greatest trials and tribulations...

One saying that God is evil and has only put us here to oppress us is in a sense one sided and biased...
Many humans who believe and define their lives by misery because they've never truly known what it feels like to have been completely immersed in sadness and confusion looking constantly for a sign of hope or satisfaction...

For an example of perception you may see a poor person as someone sad and unprivileged without any hope because he does not have what you have, but he may in reality be completely be happy and constantly sees life as a potential way of gaining things through hard work...
He may see you as a happy person because you can afford more than him but you may be depressed because all of your prize possessions to you are meaningless and in your eyes are without worth...

Generally when one is miserable or sad they see the world as a horrible place and try to blame their melancholy on someone or something, when someone is happy they think everyone else should immediately be happy like them...

Pretty much the point I'm making is whether you decide God is good or bad it is your perception of his intentions...

I personally just don't try to, I find it pointless...
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Oct 24, 2012 9:21 PM #768098
I make my own goals on life, is just that I have another goals after this life