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You guys were having such a nice semi-intelligent conversation. I figured best not ruin it with those two posts you made. So I removed them. While I don't believe Uberman is a scientist, a teacher of science is a possibility.
Also, Miami, you're team of experienced players is very likely to consist of Yourself, Rummaker, and CaptainCorps, who are all in the same clan, that game from the same game (Colony) last time I checked. So your "great amount of research" can be, and is, considered biased.
The strain on the Archidon, when lagging when a Swordwrath is chasing it is great. We can all agree.
Now, what about the strain on crawlers, to dodge the arrows, that fly past them, while animation canceling the running away Archidon? I consider that greater. While you may say, it gives no bonus, it gives a bonus you don't seem to understand, and from the game that you came from, it's understandable.

I assume that the removed posts were from Miami? As I didnt see them, no harm done.
If he could de-personalize his context and distinguish it from his content, I think I would actually enjoy reading his stuff.

TBH I dont really give a shit if you, he or anybody else believe or do not believe that I am a science teacher with appropriate graduate qualification - its quite enough for me to be factually correct on the point. If you or anybody wants to discuss that claim in a civilized manner, thats cool I have no problem with doing so. However, I do not raise the point in order to claim anything or gain anything, nor to suggest there is extra weigh and validity to my opinions about the game, it was raised only as a counter to what I took to be an implication that I am stupid. As I said, I may or may not be wrong, but I am certainally not stupid :)

I think, in fairness, I have asked a lot of questions seeking advice from more experienced players in several differeent threads. Hell, I even said to Miami w.t.e. (words to effect) 'respect for your rating your obviously a lot better player of stick than I am at the moment'

Quote from Tecness2

You guys were having such a nice semi-intelligent conversation. I figured best not ruin it with those two posts you made. So I removed them. While I don't believe Uberman is a scientist, a teacher of science is a possibility.
Also, Miami, your team of experienced players is very likely to consist of Yourself, Rummaker, and CaptainCorps, who are all in the same clan, that game from the same game (Colony) last time I checked. So your "great amount of research" can be, and is, considered biased.
The strain on the Archidon, when lagging when a Swordwrath is chasing it is great. We can all agree.
Now, what about the strain on crawlers, to dodge the arrows, that fly past them, while animation canceling the running away Archidon? I consider that greater. While you may say, it gives no bonus, it gives a bonus you don't seem to understand, and from the game that you came from, it's understandable.

First, I am not in the same clan as Rummaker or CaptainCorps. Just because we have played a different RTS game than this one does not make us biased. I've played Starcraft 1...so probably have most of the people on here, so what? Does that mean we all come to the same biased ideas? No.

The people I have tested/discussed with extensively is Rummaker, Captaincorps, Thunderfart, Rayman, Kilean, FrozenFury. And no, they don't all come from colony, although you'll find that 5 out of the top 10 players do, so go figure.

I have never heard of people managing to dodge arrows at will with crawlers. CrazyJay said he fixed it so projectiles don't miss anymore, but if there's still an exploitable bug allowing you to dodge arrows, that's news to me. What does animation cancel have to do with dodging arrows....don't you mean just changing direction? In any case, archers are rubbish against crawlers and anyone who starts off with an archer gets massacred by a decent chaos player, so any kind of advanced-micro related to a crawler vs Archidon battle is really a moot point.

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I assume that the removed posts were from Miami? As I didnt see them, no harm done.
If he could de-personalize his context and distinguish it from his content, I think I would actually enjoy reading his stuff.

TBH I dont really give a shit if you, he or anybody else believe or do not believe that I am a science teacher with appropriate graduate qualification - its quite enough for me to be factually correct on the point.If you or anybody wants to discuss that claim in a civilized manner, thats cool I have no problem with doing so. However, I do not raise the point in order to claim anything or gain anything, nor to suggest there is extra weigh and validity to my opinions about the game, it was raised only as a counter to what I took to be an implication that I am stupid. As I said, I may or may not be wrong, but I am certainally not stupid :)

One of the removed posts were mine.

I mentioned a disbelief in your credentials. Several reasons.

1. You present your sole experience (your Order vs Chaos rankings) as "hard evidence". Being a man of science, I'm sure I wouldn't have to explain to you why this is fundamentally wrong.

2. The difference between your Order and Chaos ranking is a meaningless statistic, in that it does not directly translate to, "Since I am better with Order than Chaos, Order must be overpowered".
Correlation does not show cause and effect.
Science 101.

The argument for your being biased is attributable to how you, several times, highlight petty issues, e.g. "Merics don't consume mana to heal, this is unfair to my Deads which require mana to poison",
and then ignore Chaos' own advantages, e.g. a passive healing which requires no resources, and at times will be more effective than about two Merics.

I just fought one guy and he used crawlers to run around my swordwraths and then used bombers and destroyed all my miners. Chaos is OVERPOWERED

Instead of being underpowered... I tthink its overpowered. If you play against a noob Chaos it may seem to be under powered but for the more experienced chaos user... They are near impossible to defeat

Chaos has an advantage to rush, that's all.

Crawlers? The only reason they rush nicely is because they're cheap and fast. But, 2 weak points. The order dude (assuming its chaos vs order) can either
A. Get a castle archer
B. get sword wraths and rage (idk how rage is anymore, but before, sword in rage is faster than crawler)

But... If they jugger rush, I think only B works.

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Crawlers? The only reason they rush nicely is because they're cheap and fast. But, 2 weak points. The order dude (assuming its chaos vs order) can either
A. Get a castle archer
B. get sword wraths and rage (idk how rage is anymore, but before, sword in rage is faster than crawler)

But... If they jugger rush, I think only B works.

We actually go into more detail over Chaos/Order imbalances in the "Rage Nerf-Debate!" thread. The following address your two points.

http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?47105-Rage-Nerf-Debate!&p=826725#post826725

http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?47105-Rage-Nerf-Debate!&p=826134#post826134

Ctrl+F "Castle archer" and "Crawler" if you're lazy

Quote from DragonFrost

Crawlers? The only reason they rush nicely is because they're cheap and fast. But, 2 weak points. The order dude (assuming its chaos vs order) can either
A. Get a castle archer
B. get sword wraths and rage (idk how rage is anymore, but before, sword in rage is faster than crawler)

But... If they jugger rush, I think only B works.

this certainally works to stop the early attacks on miners from crawlers. Its certain death for crawlers to be caught by a castle archer unless the chaos side is protecting them with other units - crawlers bothering you? just put up a castle archer and/or miner wall.

If the guy is sat on the tower spawn with a force doing hit-n-run which includes some crawlers, you are being outplayed and need a plan B.

Plan B would be a couple of miner walls and (insert defense of your choice) such as a wall of archers or a magikill or some Albows or giant(s) ...

If I was to attack with only crawlers and bombers against a miner wall with castle archer and/or archer units then
the question; how many crawlers and bombers would die before a miners wall infront of some archers went down?
Answer; all of them!

Of course, if you cant or dont put up that simple defence, or take similar measures (just a castle archer or is enough to defend the early game) you are going to be in a lot of trouble.