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Thats only half of what 'my book' is
And nobody is going to be playing this game with no control they are not going to be like "ok ima send my crawlers into battle and then go take a shower."

When I said beginning, I mean the 2 crawlers vs whatever tatic I use, then he wins the beginning battle, then he rushes me.
Then it just goes right back to what I said: "by the time I got atleast a spearton and some archidons, he already have some juggerknights, that skull mage guy, 2 medusas, and a giant, and it because of the BEGINNING."

By the time his crawlers back off and let my miners do their job, I start getting more miners, and more, and then I build by army, and then ^^^^^ happens.
And all this happens in like 5:00 of battle time.

All right then, my mistake on you not knowing what the beginning is. But if he has two medusa's, a skeleton mage, a giant and juggerknits, while you only have ONE spearton and several archers, then no amount of help in the beginning is going to help you.

Here's an idea! SPAWN A SPEARTON.

When I was getting up to the top 10, the only control I used, was on the magikill. Everything else was a-move as most people play it.

Quote from TheFighterz

Simple solutions:

Decrease crawler attack speed VERY slightly
Archdion only reload not moving, making Kiting MUCH more difficult

:)

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All right then, my mistake on you not knowing what the beginning is. But if he has two medusa's, a skeleton mage, a giant and juggerknits, while you only have ONE spearton and several archers, then no amount of help in the beginning is going to help you.

Here's an idea! SPAWN A SPEARTON.

When I was getting up to the top 10, the only control I used, was on the magikill. Everything else was a-move as most people play it.

Dude I was just using the "two medusa's, a skeleton mage, a giant and juggerknits," as an example, not a real event.
What I mean is when I think I have an army that says "alright this looks good, time to counter attack..........RETREAT!" And in the middle of me SPAWNING A SPEARTON, hes using his mages, skeleton guy and medusa, to pressure my miners.

Quote from 77Row

Dude I was just using the "two medusa's, a skeleton mage, a giant and juggerknits," as an example, not a real event.
What I mean is when I think I have an army that says "alright this looks good, time to counter attack..........RETREAT!" And in the middle of me SPAWNING A SPEARTON, hes using his mages, skeleton guy and medusa, to pressure my miners.

Spawn a spearton at the start -_-

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Techness2 and 77Row, I find this as grounds for... AN RHG FIGHT- oh wait, you guys don't have RHGs

In that case, it is perfect grounds for
OUR FIRST STICKEMPIRES DUEL!!!!!!!

We've already fought. I've won.

Quote from Tecness2

Spawn a spearton at the start -_-

I have already done that, he acted like my spearton wasn't even there and went straight for my miners, and once that happens, Im screwed because if miners stop doing their job for 5 seconds then im behind in the economy.

And what would battling in stick empires accomplish? We aren't fighting or who is better, besides he is better than me,though I would like to battle him again, I dont really see the point of doing so.

Quote from 77Row

I have already done that, he acted like my spearton wasn't even there and went straight for my miners, and once that happens, Im screwed because if miners stop doing their job for 5 seconds then im behind in the economy.

And what would battling in stick empires accomplish? We aren't fighting or who is better, besides he is better than me,though I would like to battle him again, I dont really see the point of doing so.

So, your logic is, you'll keep your miners there, and let them die, rather then have them garrison and get whatever amount they are carrying in their bags?
If he passes your miners, tell your miners to attack while your spearton goes and kills his.

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So, your logic is, you'll keep your miners there, and let them die, rather then have them garrison and get whatever amount they are carrying in their bags?
If he passes your miners, tell your miners to attack while your spearton goes and kills his.

I did garrison them, and since his crawlers are faster and get to my miners faster, his miners are able to stack up gold be my spearton arrives.
We would both do the same thing, garrison our miners, but we cant keep it that way forever.

Edit: Just play as order against CaptainCorps2, bet money you will lose.

Ive done the spearton start too just like 77Row said, he runs straight past and puts 1 cralwer in the corner where the castle archer will glitch and he kills the miners with the other crawler/ crawlers. The spearton is already pretty much useless, as by the time you get to his has hes already got about 6 miners, can already get the castle archer and pretty much won at this stage. And even if you tried defending with the spearton he will attack miners, most probably kill them before you can even kill one of those crawlers. and mean while, while your trying to stop the glitchy crawlers hes building up his economy.

Quote from 77Row

We would both do the same thing, garrison our miners but we cant keep it that way forever.

Says who? If you both do, you'd win.

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Ive done the spearton start too just like 77Row said, he runs straight past and puts 1 cralwer in the corner where the castle archer will glitch and he kills the miners with the other crawler/ crawlers. The spearton is already pretty much useless, as by the time you get to his has hes already got about 6 miners, can already get the castle archer and pretty much won at this stage. And even if you tried defending with the spearton he will attack miners, most probably kill them before you can even kill one of those crawlers. and mean while, while your trying to stop the glitchy crawlers hes building up his economy.

THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM ENTIRELY. I'm pretty sure you can do the same to his castle dead as well -_-

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Says who? If you both do, you'd win.


THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROBLEM ENTIRELY. I'm pretty sure you can do the same to his castle dead as well -_-

The chaos, dead zombies castle archer guys, once they lay a hit on you, they poision your spearton whos killing the miners, once that happens, you can no longer hide in the corner, you will just die of poision.

Exxmorphing, A rematch wont solve anything.

Tec - the Video you sent is private - can you resend - And I will say this in advance - If all this talk is simply referring to what is called "animation canceling" Whereby you cancel the animation of the attack as soon as the damage is delt then click away and reclick attack. *THIS IS NORMAL AND ON PURPOSE* However if there is something else going on where 2 crawlers can take out 2 swordsman and an archer then thats fishy.

BTW Animation Cancel can be done with many units, including, Swordwrath, Shadowrath, Spearton, Juggerknight, Crawlers, and others.

I will also add, that we are trying to fix that hiding from the castle archer bug.

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Tec - the Video you sent is private - can you resend - And I will say this in advance - If all this talk is simply referring to what is called "animation canceling" Whereby you cancel the animation of the attack as soon as the damage is delt then click away and reclick attack. *THIS IS NORMAL AND ON PURPOSE* However if there is something else going on where 2 crawlers can take out 2 swordsman and an archer then thats fishy.

BTW Animation Cancel can be done with many units, including, Swordwrath, Shadowrath, Spearton, Juggerknight, Crawlers, and others.

I will also add, that we are trying to fix that hiding from the castle archer bug.

On it. Try again when you read this :p

Quote from Exxmorphing

congrats Tecness2- you won. you are victorious.
how does it feel? was it really worth it?
please say yes, please say yes

Of course it was. I was right in several aspects, including, fast spearton, not only counters this strategy, but can attack almost immediately after.
Myself and Rummaker just proved it.

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hmm.... I find that a bit unfair. The people who can do it well enough have a distinct edge over others, thus dropping a lot of people's ranks. Do you think you can take it out crazyjay? I'm not sure if a lot of people will like that, since it removes boundries, but heck, you're the creator, so who am I to talk?

and it seems that 77Row has lost!!!!!
THE WAR HAS ENDED!!!

right after CRAZYJAY reveales the results of the video techness sent him, it will be
yet another thread closed- OH WAIT- frozen fury still has to post what he thinks of this, and if he will play again. man, we've drifted off the original topic.

Not so fast, the 2 crawlers vs 2 swordwrath, the crawlers have a faster attack animation so they will win, + speed with the animation cancel, so its still unfair.

Quote from 77Row

Not so fast, the 2 crawlers vs 2 swordwrath, the crawlers have a faster attack animation so they will win, + speed with the animation cancel, so its still unfair.

Have you ever thought of using "Hold position" ? It helps.


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