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How to get along with the others?[Behavior][Thought Process]

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Jan 11, 2007 4:41 PM #20903
Well, I'm not sure if that's a tutorial. It's more kind of a guide. I hope this is the right section anyway.
What I'm about to say it's nothing new for most of you. And I don't want to preach or tell anyone what to do. I'll just try to help you to see some things from a different angle.

The reason I'm posting this are some of the members. As I see a quarrel between you, I feel offended. I tought that the "leets" are supposed to know, that arguing via the Internet is useless. And even if you win, it's the same thing you would get a medal on Special Olympics - you win, but you're still a retard(I don't know who said that, but it's genious).

And what do you do, when someone flames you for no (apparent) reason?
One chance is, that you don't respond. I sometimes stick to this simple rule: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all."
The other chance is, to ask politely (if you don't understand), why were you just flamed?

But don't hit back. Why? Well, first of all, you'll go offtopic and the thread will change into flame fest. That's not good, isn't it? Then, undoubtly you'll lose you respect among the others(well, if you had any).

There is something I'd like to say to the ...

a) Senoir Members:
I know, how easy is it to pick on a helpless little newb. He's new, noone will stand up for him. And what is he going to do? Talk with you and use bad grammar until you give up? Or hit you with a valid argument while he can barely spell?

My advice is not to flame or argue with newbies. Why?
Not much of the new guys stick around long. So there's no sense in arguing with them and wasting the energy. But some of them stay anyway. And one day they'll grow up in Internet gangstas and remember you, how you flamed them in their noobish days. I mean, we all were n00bs at one point, admit it.

And when you criticise someone's art or anim .... meh, I'm not going to say anything about that, read Areks's tutorial about construcive criticism.

Oh, and one more thing. Do you know, why do newbs spell so bad? Most of them have never been to a forum or they come from a chat-room. And you know, how the chat-rooms are. More interactive than the forums. And like on Habbo there is no much space for long texts, so they shorten their words. And some of them just can't speak English well.
If you want them to improve their spelling, don't say:"You phail @ life." If that'll bring them to realise that spelling is important, then I'll transform myself into a horse and eat grass until the rest of my life.
If you want to help help him, PM him and ask for the MSN contact or anything. And talk with him. Politely, without using bad words. If I recall correctly FrAnKeH helped someone that way to spell better.

And anywhere IRL or via the Internet ... if you want something, everything can be done with kindness and a natural smile. Wow, I sound like I'm selling canned politeness. But it's true. I won't start listing my own experiences ... but has anyone heard a story about the sun and the wind?

Well, once upon a time there were the sun and the wind(they're still here, but I'm telling the story here). The wind suggested a comp, to see which one of them is stronger.
He pointed at a man, who was wearing a coat and said: "Whoever makes that man to take off the coat, wins, lolk?" The sun accepted the challenge. Wind started blowing and blowing, bit the man held his coat tight, because it was cold. Then the sun started shining. The man tought, that it's too warm for wearing a coat and took it off.

I don't think it's neccesary to say, what was the lesson.

b) Junior Members:
Well, I think Lgolos said lots of important things in his thread called somehow like that: "How Not To Phail At Internet."

But I'll say something anyway ....
As you come to the SPP, read the rules first. Noone is too hardcore to read the rules. Then you'll know what's not allowed.

Then tell me, how do you usually separate a newbie from a "leet" member? Capitalising and spelling.
If you DO know, how to spell .... knock yourself out and use long words, that will make you look educated. Before you post your reply, read trough the whole post. Do you understand, what are you trying to say in your reply?

If you DON'T know how to spell ....
One choice is to get better in school at English ... or you can add smarterchild@hotmail.com to your contacts. Just ask him:" spell mammals."
He'll show it to you, if you have spelt it correctly and ask you, if you want to see the definition(command:define). Pretty useful. I have also used it for a couple of times.

THE END

Still reading? Thank you for your time
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Jan 11, 2007 4:55 PM #20905
First thing I would have to say:
Dont use terms like leet, l33t or some stupid internet term. I mean comon, you say that out in the real world without the use of internet?

Internet = diversity, everyone cant get along, we are not living puppets like those bible freaks. We all have our own personality and way of thinking.

The only way to get along is to understand someone, not by reading any manual how to get along.

Sure reading/writing and all properly would make this thread more smooth running, but then agian not everyone is raised with english as their native language.
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Jan 11, 2007 4:57 PM #20906
I can say that on the Internet. <_<

I just wanted to help. Well, I tried ...
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Jan 11, 2007 5:39 PM #20914
Nobody, could you please be quiet and show some respect?
Thank you.

Though I do think that a Tut on socialism is a bit :confused:, I'll put aside my "Socially-challenged-retards-can-stay-the-hell-away-from-me-cos-they've-never-even-seen-another-member-of-the-opisite-sex" Internet stereotype and appriciate that Mantha has made a Tut convincing people to be better to their fellow man (Something I oh-so support).

Good job.
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Jan 11, 2007 5:46 PM #20915
Quote from Mantha
"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all.
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Quote from Mantha

But YOU. You are truly the biggest asshole of us all. Not only that you're rude, you're also dumb. I mean ... I don't hate you ... you're just stupid.



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Jan 11, 2007 6:33 PM #20920
mantha is allowed to do that, go away miggy.
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Jan 11, 2007 6:42 PM #20921
According to herself she's not allowed to. That's called "Being Double Moraled".
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Jan 11, 2007 6:43 PM #20922
Nice tut mantha.
I learned to steer clear of those naughty newbs.
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Jan 11, 2007 6:46 PM #20923
Quote from Miguel
According to herself she's not allowed to. That's called "Being Double Moraled".

COMMUNIST ARSE

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Jan 11, 2007 7:29 PM #20934
-_- You cant make a tut and expect people to follow it. The design of the tut is good, but honestly you think it will change others... No
The person needs to change themself and cant be told when and where/how things should be done. I doubt this would change much from noobs.
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Jan 11, 2007 7:30 PM #20935
Good tutorial though. But i agree with NobodY (the member) :P
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Jan 11, 2007 8:34 PM #20954
feh, it should work, but noone will follow the rules all the time.
its just basic human nature.
I'll do my best tho.
thanks for the time and concern for the rest of us, Mantha.
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Jan 11, 2007 9:18 PM #20959
Three problems.

First and foremost, why do we have to get along? I love the internet so much more than real life for mostly one reason; in real life, what you do has a direct impact on your life. You'll face what you did wrong eventually. But on the internet, the most that can happen is getting flamed, or banned from the forum, neither of which effects you IRL dramatically. Online you don't have to put on a false face just to avoid a bad occurance. This almost completely filters out two-faces and liars, and people are honest with eachother for better or for worse (usually better, in my instances). So I don't see any reason to be nice for any other reason than to just be nice, especially when some idiot did something that deserves getting yelled at.

Second, your comment, "we were all n00bs once". True. But back then, we deserved whatever we got too. And I'm referring to the time when we were completely new and oblivious to internet rules and customs, including grammar. Not when we were "newbs" in the forum, but newbs to the internet in general. Basically, we deserved what we got back then, the newbs of this generation deserve what they get now.

Third, your comment about telling people to use good grammar. To do it politely, and kindly. I never had that experience. My first time typing perfectly was in a chat room, in SpinChat. A member named "Hydrocronics", who was very well respected for being one of the most intelligent people on the chatroom (he was a metaphysicist), commented on my grammar pretty harshly. From that day on I've typed the same way I type now, and that was around 6 or 7 years ago.

Overall, yeah, some people are overly rude for no reason, but that doesn't mean we have to be nice just for the sake of being nice.
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Jan 12, 2007 3:03 AM #20994
I never expected anyone to actually follow this. Those were just a couple of advices how to avoid the most stupid quarrels. Internet isn'a a happy land where everyone is nice and I can see that.
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Jan 27, 2007 11:36 PM #22008
I can't get along with others, my penis is too clean.
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