I would have to say, this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of to EVEN CONSIDER. They should not be allowed to have it. For 3 simple reasons here,responsibility, abuse, and revenge. We all probably know of a teacher that would probably misuse the gun. And they would probably shoot a student, parent, or another staff member they dont like-including other teachers. But remember, Im talking about have the potential to do so. And if its like a weak frail lady teacher, and they have like a strong ass male football player. If that football player was like crazy, and wanted somebody dead in the school or in the class, he could steal that gun by using the element of surprise. Also what you said yourself Pin. You dont want a teacher to go shoot a class clown or something.Also, if a student says no to what a teacher tells them to do, they could threaten them with a gun to make them do it. And also Pin, working a gun is quite challenging for those that don't know how. Some people might catch on fast, but others, nada. Also, who will fund it?Do you think gun companies will give, a 'teacher addition' of guns?In this economy? I dont think so.And finally, I dont think some are mature or responsible enough to have one. Remember, substitute teachers would have to have some too. And some substitute teachers can be high school graduates, and I wouldn't want a high school grad to have a gun, they are barely adults. Anyways, I think its just a bad Idea. I hope I covered everything.

I would have to agree with Alien. We asked my Science teacher about this same subject and she came up with this debate.

She said that once when she was alone at her house, it was dark, and she heard a bunch of noise outside, then she started hearing noise at her door. Her gun was upstairs, so she just stood there in shock. If she were to have a gun in her hand she would have shot her sister.

She says just human instinct alone is reason enough for teachers not to be armed. And that aside what about the children, I know for a fact if everyone knew every teacher had a gun in the classroom. At least one of us would try and find it and play around with it.

Heck there are crazy kids out there, and you know where that's heading.


Yes it has good intention, but the danger and risk surpass the protection, and defeat the point in even having it.
In other words its not a good deal AT ALL for teachers to have a gun at school.

I agree that it's a bad idea. While I can sort of understand the line of thinking going into it, your're ultimately putting deadly weapons into the hands of untrained people that already deal with a high-stress job. Teachers aren't police officers, and I don't think most even get training on how to handle stress from shitty students. It would be far too easy for one of them to go nucking futs and use their board-issued firearm to murder their class. I think it might start to be a better idea if the guns also came with proper training and psychological evaluation, but even then it's still high risk.

School has become a prison. Teachers have become prison guards. Detention has become jail time.

No. As much as I respect teachers, I do not trust them to hold a firearm. I doubt that it would be compulsory for all teachers to hold firearms otherwise they would have to add something quite new to the job description. They are there to teach children, not be some armed guard. Children also look up to teachers, and what does arming them teach children? Guns are acceptable around children. While some parents are completely fine with this, there are sure to be plenty others against the idea.
Additionally it creates a sense of dependence on firearms, which if prolonged is likely to strengthen over time. It gives the country a feeling that more guns are a solution, when guns are also the problem. It is fighting fire with an even bigger fire.
Furthermore, guns are not appropriate in a learning environment. While it may create a sense of security it can also create insecurity. It is only a matter of time for a teacher to make a mistake and these weapons fall into the wrong hands. More guns are not necessarily safer, but can also increase the probability of accidents and misuse. It can create anxiety and further stress in students, thus harming their study. And teachers have to stress about a new responsibility also, a responsibility which involves others life. How hard will it be for the teachers themselves? More burdens.
Through allowing teachers to hold fire arms, you are entrusting these people to defend your children. They need training and experience. Imagine how much more money will need to be spent for this when it can be used to further advance education.
Rather then arming teachers, a security guard is a much more preferable alternative. I don't understand why they jumped straight to teachers. Even then, I am still hesitant. I believe a solution to give them other roles other then self defense. Such as counselling, bullying prevention, so forth.

I think as a replacement for a firearm a teacher should be allowed to wield pepper spray or a tazer as a way of defense...

If he/she somehow goes insane and attacks him/her students with either of those they not only live but they also lives to sue the shit out of him/her, get a bunch of days off, and gain respect in school...

But in all seriousness I don't think it'd be good to have a firearm AT ALL, I think many Americans already grow too much of a dependence to guns and much of the media inspires fear that makes people think their only way of defense is carrying a firearm around...
I doubt seeing teachers (especially teachers) carry guns around would help make people feel more safe in their school environment...

You all know my position on firearms in general, but I think given the impracticality of getting rid of all guns in the US it's worth a try. Granted, teachers are in a high-stress job, but there's no evidence that they would be more likely to go on a rampage than kids who steal their parents' guns. In fact, if teachers were prone to that kind of behaviour you have to imagine they would find it at least as easy as the kids to get their hands on guns. Although I'm with Quick in that tasers would be just as good and much less dangerous.

Yeah that's a good point... why not just let everyone have tazers and pepper spray? You can take down potential shooters and if somebody steals it and goes nuts, they'll live. I'm not a fan of having guards out by every school, but at the same time if it comes to that, why not just give them tazers? No need for pistols and rifles when you can have stun guns and flashbangs; we are talking about kids and teens here.

I dont think you understand Chronium how much tazers and pepper spray hurts, it can even blind a man.I dont think giving a teacher a weapon is good at ALL.As long as it is meant for self defense like a harmful weapon, it should NOT, at any cost, be given to a teacher.For reasons that Jeff has already stated.

You also have to think about how it would be required for teachers to carry the weapon on them at all times. This means it's a lot more accessible than if they already own one at home. In a heat-of-the-moment situation during class, if a teacher snaps their gun is right at their side. If they already own one and they snap, they still have to go home and get it, which would allow them time to cool off and stuff.

I think arming teachers is a bit to much of an extreme. I do highly doubt a teacher would lose their head and start a shooting if they did have a firearm, but weapons just don't belong in a learning environment. Its going to cause more stress than security. I do like the idea of pepper spray, if a mistake happens, no body's life is ruined. But I also think this is a little unnecessary as well.

When I was in school we had a decent safe guard in my opinion. We had fencing all around the school, gates where locked in school hours (only way in or out was through reception) and a few security cameras were posted to make sure no suspicious persons entered the grounds. In the event that someone did, our school song was played over the PA (more subtle than an alarm i guess), this let students and teachers know something was up, and if we weren't in class for any reason we knew to get to the closest class room, while the police were called.

It may not be much, but I think its something worth at least thinking about before we give every man, woman, and dog a gun in fear of the mentally unstable.

She holds a metal bat for intimidation. Or for perhaps for looks (personally I would go with a 1 meter ruler. It is more consistent with the job and tradition). "If you disobey, I will hit you. Even if you are a child." That is one of the messages I would perceive when looking at her (taking into account that you said it is not for defense). Is obedience achieved through fear a good thing? Personally I don't think so in this circumstance. You are threatening the kids with physical violence if they break the rule for not handing in their ID, which is quite extreme. The punishment perceived does not fit the crime. It also seems to me that she is teaching kids that violence is a solution to problems you can't deal with verbally.
Unless your school has enrolled in it hundreds of hardcore criminals, I see no reason to carry a metal bat.

Of course, I come from a relatively safe school. And I have no idea how dangerous it is over there.

The Shooting in Sandy Hook is obviously staged. The guy was in a government top secret CIA mind contral program. Guys this is what the government does when they want to take your freedom..... it's call problem reaction solution. They stage a event so they can say ok that is it we are taking your gun and they can now enforce martial law. Obama is the devil that wants your guns. And yes I do believe teachers should have concealed carry so if crazy nutcraker comes into the school with guns blazing they can defend theirselves. The taking of guns will only increase crime rates, take england for example 15 years ago their guns were taken and what happened......crime rate shot up like nothing no one has ever seen before and what does the government do.... They cover it up by showing fake charts of crime rates.

School shootings are way too uncommon to justify the risk of accidents and/or abuse. Plus, having a gun doesn't mean you have the sort of training necessary to handle a life or death situation like a school shooting. That's what soldiers are trained for, not teachers.