I personally use my ninjas to harass and control enemy progression and economy.
1st I train 1 miner to pray and two sword wrath
2nd send 1 swordwrath to scout and attempt to gain control of tower.
3rd if enemy advances train 3rd swordwrath. Dependent on if the opponent trains an early spearton if not 3 a 4th unit will suffice I usually don't have this happen often though
4th if the opponent doesn't advance train 2 more miners both set on gold collection.
By this time you should have enough to purchase shadowrath and shinobi lvl 1
Garrison shadowrath until cloak is finished. Send him out to scout and see what the opponent is doing and assassinate any prayers after a few seconds of harassing miners the opponent will more than likely want a quick solution to counter the ninja. More than likely this will come in the form of a spearton. Continue harassing miners if the opponent thinks u will retreat. But what I do is combat the spearton until low on health then retreat seeing as the longer a ninja battles the more damage it will do often leading to the ninja coming out the victor. But if not and the spearton decides to persue the swordwrath should take care of him. The next thing I go for mind u during the time that I am harassing I am and already have researched miners and miner hustle or tower spawn dependent on the situation. More than likely however the opponent will prepare for more ninja harassment and will research either more spearton, albowtrosses or castle archidons. I don't like necessarily massing ninjas. The next thing I do in almost any situation is train albowtross. After training albow, I research shinobi 2. I don't usually wait for it to finish. I send out my garrison marinating shadowrath passed any enemy line. If the enemy has built a wall this is no cause for alarm just reason enough to send my ninja back to either the statue or garrison dependent upon whether or not he has taken damage. Research giant growth next along with a giant to give it purpose XD. More than likely the tower spawn is pecking away at the wall. Once giant finishes training or even during the training process train 2 more albowtross which by now should have learned blazing bolts sent the two new Albows along with the medium sized giant to the center. If the opponent has massed speartons build a couple walls to defend miners and speartons shouldn't be to much of a problem. Also dependent on whether or not statue has resilience. Spawn a couple more shadowrath. For me to deal with mass speartons using my control approach is have the 3 or more shadowrath cloak and rape a spearton. Keep attacking until a unit of mine is low on health because the opponent will most likely be annoyed by the presence of the ninjas and have all his/her units target one at a time. Whilst the other shadowrath giant and albowtross and more than likely the tower spawn will still be there continue to atk. During this period of combatance the shadowrath should have killed at least 5 speartons poisoned 2 others before retreating then the giant now fully grown tower spawn and Albows should deal with the rest. By this time the opponent should surrender. Then again the game has many variables

Quote from ShadowyWhisper

Well, 3 Castle Archers did nothing to my 6 Giants crushing the statue.

Well then more than likely u haven't had units harass your economy you were most likely playing against blazing bolts or speartons who couldn't get their defense out fast enough.

...don't double post please.
TL;dr @post #17

against ninja spammer the best things would be these

-On offence
Albows only. If you have the middle then pressure your opponent thanks to ghost spawn and when he retreats inside attack his statue
if it goes well you should be able to destroy his statue when he understands it's too late to fight back

-On defence
make 2 magikill, miner wall, castle archer and if you want you can keep some albows
useless to say what you need to do when he attacks

if he attacks, sees that you're fortified and tries to get the middle, use albows to make him change idea
if instead he uses his last resources on giants, use always albows: some micromanagement and you should be able to inflict a lot of damage (if you're lucky you could be able to kill it)

Quote from FailingAtFailing

My tip: Remember that ninjas can only hit one unit at a time. This also applies to giant massers (if they still exist)

So basically Swordwrath with rage. If they're going for your statue, resilience. ALWAYS get resilience. Castle Archers take them out since melee units all have to group together to attack the statue. Castle Archer splash damage will RAPE them. And magikill. Explosion on ninjas attacking your statue or electric wall. I notice spammers think they can destroy your statue fast so they ignore your units.

Never forget the miner wall as well...2 of em...

Quote from DiPi

against ninja spammer the best things would be these

-On offence
Albows only. If you have the middle then pressure your opponent thanks to ghost spawn and when he retreats inside attack his statue
if it goes well you should be able to destroy his statue when he understands it's too late to fight back

-On defence
make 2 magikill, miner wall, castle archer and if you want you can keep some albows
useless to say what you need to do when he attacks

if he attacks, sees that you're fortified and tries to get the middle, use albows to make him change idea
if instead he uses his last resources on giants, use always albows: some micromanagement and you should be able to inflict a lot of damage (if you're lucky you could be able to kill it)

I have a problem with the defense quote. Training 2 magikill would take some time and if I were to be on a short map with my Albows at the tower and I saw this shinobi lvl 2 will smash the wall in progress and the magikills have such low armor and health they will get raped. I see that as a waste of 1200 gold and 1000 mana which prolly coulda gone towards some Albows or tower lvl 2 or giant train and growth if not already researched. And everyone seems to think that the castle archers are a great solution, whereas a group of cloaked shadowrath are able to absorb this damage and make a retreat without much of a scathe due to their speed. Also a tip I saw posted earlier kinda made me want to close my laptop and go running with sharp blades. The tip said remember that ninjas can only hit one unit at a time. I'm assuming this wasn't thought through but almost all units in the order archetype hit one unit at a time except for magikill and castle archidons if they count as units. Editing one more time because I don't want people to look at this post and tell me that I used an improper word in one of my sentences when said people should assume the obvious. I didn't mean to use the word absorb I meant to put avoid the castle archidons arrows long enough to assassinate the units I desire and then retreat. The aoe property of the castle archidons arrows seems to apply mostly to very low armored units like swordwrath, normal archidons and ( albowtross )but on a lesser scale. The castle archidons however succeed in preventing my ninjas from doing further damage to defending units and miners

Quote from PsychoticCheez

Giant spam is a brilliant way to counter shadowrath spam. Giants stun them so their speed is irrevant, and it takes a lot of shinobi to down a giant, and it gets harder when giants are in a mass.

If you can't afford a giant yet, though, invest heavily into archers and raged-up swordwrath. Think about it.

Not really, a couple of Shadowwrath with Shinobi 1 or 2 can easily down a fully upgraded giant, so a full army of Shadowwraths vs 7 or 8 Giants (I think 7 Giants is maximum) with Shinobi could probably take on a Giant Masser easily.

Quote from Kincaid1

Not really, a couple of Shadowwrath with Shinobi 1 or 2 can easily down a fully upgraded giant, so a full army of Shadowwraths vs 7 or 8 Giants (I think 7 Giants is maximum) with Shinobi could probably take on a Giant Masser easily.

11 giants is max, but an army of shadows could take down atleast a few of the giants.

max amount of ninjas at 1 possible time: 20.

Yet no one responded to me ;(

So...20 Shadowraths with Shinobi 1 or 2 vs 11 full grown Giants...it really depends whether or not the Shadowwraths have Shinobi 2 or 1, because 2 does more damage, so if the 20 Shadowwraths had Shinobi 2...mhm, I can't really say who win, it's a close call.

IMO, 11 giants would win, but I'm not sure

normaly a shadowarth why atk the statue than the giant

Why would the giants just go attack the opponents statue? Assuming the giant masser turtled, then the ninjas wouldn't last long.

does anyone have anything to say about what i said?!?!