ok lemme start of by saying i keep losing hardly winning and i am frustrated i dont understand every match the opponent just pwns me and im sick of it pls help






bad badam

Add me, code is in my signature. I'll help ya out.

k added u thanks really appreciate it

Let's be a little more specific about your problems here. Where exactly are you having trouble? Give us some key hindrances (Opponent's army is larger, don't know how to do this or that, etc).

well mostly dont know what to do :P i used to use the surprise spearton strategy now it just doesnt work for me

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well mostly dont know what to do :P i used to use the surprise spearton strategy now it just doesnt work for me

The surprise spearton hurts your economy, and can only have any effect on a shorter stage. I'll discuss more things with you in SE.

I'll need your code as well.

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The surprise spearton hurts your economy, and can only have any effect on a shorter stage. I'll discuss more things with you in SE.

I'll need your code as well.

Here is what's wrong with this strategy, and how I personally defend against it. I usually see my opponent DOESN'T try to get the middle as he is trying to keep the Spearton a secret. So, what I do is send a ShadowWrath with cloak and sneak up to opponent's garrison to check. If he has... let's say 20 Spearton.

Middle: This is mostly for show. You want to keep your real defense a secret. Spearton Rushers are basically like Giant Spammers. They DON'T scout to see what your army is like. They either CAN'T find out or just ASSUME that his army can defeat yours or destroy your statue in time.

So, you should have some expensive looking units but not all of your army. For example, a Magikill and maybe a Giant or 2 with Allbowtrosses or Archidons. Simple, not really complicated. As I said, more for show as your opponent will most likely assume that's your entire army and he won't bother to scout.

Base: This is where the defense lies. You will need 1-2 Miner Walls, 2-3 Castle Archers, 5-10 SwordWrath with rage, and 1 Spearton in Shield Wall.

Last game, I had 1 Miner wall, 2 Castle Archers, 7 SwordWrath, and 1 Spearton. Set up your defense like this EXACTLY.

Build 1st Wall farther away from base, and 2nd Wall closer to base. I only had time to build 1, but that's okay. If you build 2, your opponent's Spearton will die before your statue has lost ANY health at all. If you build it in this order, your opponent's Spearton will start to target your army unless he manually selects the 2nd Wall. Your Spearton, of course, will be in front. Your 5-10 SwordWrath then will start pounding away and start destroying your opponent. If you can get a Magikill with Electric Wall, then all the better.

20 Spearton dead before 3/4 statue health is gone.

Surprise spearton... Not spearton mass. He means spearton EARLY ATTACK

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Surprise spearton... Not spearton mass. He means spearton EARLY ATTACK

He did both. Valid points remain valid.

But his "early attack" wasn't even as early as I expected.

It's all in the pressure.

The spearton surprise is easy to beat. Just scout ahead with one sword at beginning(one miner on mana(trained), 2 other on gold), and leave 200 dollars to spare. Then, when you see opponent has spearton surprise, get some more swordwrath and rage (you should have enough money by now). Three swords with rage can easily pwn the lonely spearton, and then you can attack his defense-less miners, because it is likely he will try to build up his economy after the early game spearton. After that, its another story.

Well, it would take MORE time and MORE money and mana to build 3 SwordWrath with rage. Think about it. 150+150+150+50=500, and the same for mana, 50.

no... You just need 150 and 50 mana. Remember? I only bought one miner and I had 200 left over. So thats 2 swords already. All you need is 150 (two miner deposits) and 50 mana, which should be done by now by the miner assigned to statue worship. But yes, it will still be expensive, but at least you gained the upper hand in the beginning of the game.

The extra 50 gold is worth it, if you get the middle (it will get more than 50 gold for you, if you have it for a while)

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no... You just need 150 and 50 mana. Remember? I only bought one miner and I had 200 left over. So thats 2 swords already. All you need is 150 (two miner deposits) and 50 mana, which should be done by now by the miner assigned to statue worship. But yes, it will still be expensive, but at least you gained the upper hand in the beginning of the game.

Imagine a Spearton charging at you with 2 SwordWrath and no Rage. And yes, on every map except Grass Hills this is possible. Target miners first depending, miners dead, Spearton retreats. SwordWrath try to chase it down. My 4 miners, I usually have 4 by then, go to garrison. You are left with 2, my Spearton heals and wards off your attacking SwordWrath. You have not gotten the upper hand, nor have you the economical advantage.

So, what am I saying?

Buy 1 SwordWrath and send it to the center. Make sure you have 4 miners, so you can have a Spearton loading by the time your opponent gets one. You will have the economical advantage as well as offensive. Your SwordWrath should have done SOME damage by then, so his Spearton will die before yours.

Good luck!

not to be rude but.......why are u all telling me how to counter my own strategy?i think one would know how to counter his own strategy anyways i need help or a new strategy.
oh and um wouldnt a more simple way to counter this strategy be to get a castle archer and a swordwrath?(talkin about the early spearton attack)