Seriously, ninjas are strong enough already, it doesn't need any push, com' on, i dont wanna see people mass ninjas in every games....

HOLY! I just finished kingdom rush frontiers!!! NECROMANCES FOR THE WIN!!!

Ok then post a vid of shadows being used effectively against spear arch plz. I wanna see who wins.
Make sure it's not someone low ranking too btw

Excuse me but, who ever claimed that could happen? Ninjas are useful against deads, mages, merics, giants, and chaos mages. They aren't made specifically to combat armored things.

well, what i actually want is when YOUR shadowrath is in shinobie, your oppontment shouldnt see your shadowrath :/

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well, what i actually want is when YOUR shadowrath is in shinobie, your oppontment shouldnt see your shadowrath :/

No way.

EDIT: How do you figure where is the shadowraths, then?

well, what i actually want is when YOUR shadowrath is in shinobie, your oppontment shouldnt see your shadowrath :/

i second this. But,,,,,, if your enemy cant see them and you can see them clearly how will you know if they're in shinobi/ if they're still in the current system its okay, if you get what i mean

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No way.

EDIT: How do you figure where is the shadowraths, then?

lol....do you know strike force heroes 2? there is an ability for snipers where enemys cant see you...you can see yourself ofc, but weaker...and if an enemy sniper using this ability, YOU cant see him untill he attacks or is attacked

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i second this. But,,,,,, if your enemy cant see them and you can see them clearly how will you know if they're in shinobi/ if they're still in the current system its okay, if you get what i mean

I get what ya mean ^_^ its like this what I said to triss: You can see them, but weaker (just as atm when you use the ability) , and your oppontment cant see your shadowrath....same opposite: if your enemy shadowrath use shinobie only he can see his own unit, you cant see it, its like there is nothing, but then when he strikes you get this surprise-effect XD

Also, in shinobie, the castle archer shouldnt see him too....if ya didnt notice it yet, CA always fires althought shadowrath is in shinobie... :/ strange, have they this "sharingan"-eyes???

I don't agree, as a chaos user.

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I don't agree, as a chaos user.

A question. I have trouble against Chaos players in general because they mass around 6-7 crawlers and rush to my miners. Of course I can buy a Castle Archer but the 300 gold (600 if it gets persistant) along with possible dead miners that need to be re-made makes my economy fall behind.

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As for the Ninja ordeal, why is the idea that Ninja's can't be seen by your enemy/by you not a good idea? It really adds to the stealth aspect of the Ninjas, but then again, it could unfair if during the "Climax War" (when both sides hit max pop and assault each other) and the Ninja's sneak back and ruin the miners. Then again, you could say you're putting yourself at a disadvantage w/ too many Ninja's as they cost 4 population, and their kinda made for 1v1. I dunno, what do you guys think?

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Another unrealated note; Happy Soon-To-Be-Thanksgiving guys! What do you guys plan on doing for Thanksgiving?

Holy, just look at my necromances towers....OP

Shadows against deads... You have to be joking
They'd just absorb the damage and kill and or cripple your shadow in the higher ranks.

Actually, ninjas are useful against dead, since a ninja>dead, not to mention shinobi

So com' on, please, it's pretty balance between 2 empired right now, don't break it.... Don't buff ninjas. None of u guys have seen how OP ninjas are on dm =.=

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Actually, ninjas are useful against dead, since a ninja>dead, not to mention shinobi

So com' on, please, it's pretty balance between 2 empired right now, don't break it.... Don't buff ninjas. None of u guys have seen how OP ninjas are on dm =.=

Well at least people who want ninjas to be buffed. Pumu, go play some DM matchees. Go.

I have played Ninja's with DM and can say they are a force to be reckoned with, but is simply making them actually invisible that OP? I'd assume you still hear the noise, which should put you on alert (or or make you think twice about massing giants/mages :P)