Quote from Skeletonxf

If you read what I typed closely you would see I said 'reliable dps boost' rather than dps boost. Ele has good dps stat wise, it just can't make much use of it. Even with the water nerf, ele still has all these silly free hp units that have no meaningful damage and force Order to turtle and let chaos win by taking to the skies and kiting forever. Nerf the tanks and buff the reliability of the ranged units and ele can compete with chaos in the air and order can compete with ele on the ground witout having to turtle. Ele gameplay sucks when it only works for the ele player if they can be nearly on top of the enemy army.

Ele defo needs an end game buff, all its unit costings are way out, either too cheap for trees and too gold heavy for almost everything else.

Quote from lewislewis

Trees are hard to balance because they are unsual because they spawn units no other units can do this? So we have to work out what is the role of the tree?

I argree that tress are not the only problem I think it's a slight over exaggeration when people say the only way to win is tress what wrong with charog air or Fire? With cycloid support. IMO cycloids role is too protect tanks and to hurt weaker units with tornado I don't feel enough people treat them in this way? If they are supposed to be AA troops then something has too be done

Soory I have gone on a rant about another balance problem oops!

Quote from lewislewis

I saw one guy rated 2000+ wipe out all of his enemies archers with 3 tornado spells the defender was turtleing as order when the ele player had 3 cycloidds and wiped out like 8-12 full health archerdons the defender reigned as the turtle wa broken and fires, vastolis and supporting cycloidds descended on his statue

Quote from lewislewis

I saw one guy rated 2000+ wipe out all of his enemies archers with 3 tornado spells the defender was turtleing as order when the ele player had 3 cycloidds and wiped out like 8-12 full health archerdons the defender reigned as the turtle wa broken and fires, vastolis and supporting cycloidds descended on his statue

Quote from HashBrownTrials

Ele = Lag

Or atlesst with tree spamming..

Quote from TheLegendofKaito

cycloid = cannot protect self when protecting other units(is also melee only)
also useless attacking 'not weak' units

fire = crappy range
air = not good vsing other air

Quote from THatone Gamer

IMO cycloids are still really good, they give ele a chance to actually hit the oppononent cause of the tornado stun that lasts a million years.

Quote from TheLegendofKaito

Tree spamming =/= ele. As of recent, the system has stopped pairing me with laggers frequently, and my games have been running smoothly.

Quote from Skeletonxf

Ele would be very lucky in a classic game to not need to tree spam to fight over centre.

Quote from Skeletonxf

Why?

There's no shame in doing something that's the strongest meta.