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Yeah its a pretty silly change. Dont fix it if it aint broke?

It seems the devs are focusing too hard on messing up the things that work well, as oppose to fixing the things that dont.

Pretty much this.


Fix the bad stuff, don't mess with the good stuff.

Thanks for spilling the beans, Ase.

The reason for this idea is to hopefully reduce the power of early archidon play by putting a more practical focus into a tank or jug unit. I don't know how I feel about it yet, but I recognize how strong archidons are and how good archer sword is.

Reducing jug/spear by 25 mana is pretty minuscule change IMO... we are talking, what, a 10-12 second or so difference? Some other things would be far more disruptive like reducing albow cost and open up game play more...

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Reducing jug/spear by 25 mana is pretty minuscule change IMO... we are talking, what, a 10-12 second or so difference?

That's actually a really big change.

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Reducing jug/spear by 25 mana is pretty minuscule change IMO... we are talking, what, a 10-12 second or so difference? Some other things would be far more disruptive like reducing albow cost and open up game play more...

Huge difference.

Hey people, don't hate before the change. We've grown way too accustomed. What will this update enable in say, OvO?

> More tentative archer focus. Spears are easier to get into, and hide (25 mana then re-gold your miner, do they know it's coming?).
> If players are too careful, then they won't have archer numbers - albow gains a bit more than semi-viability?
> Merics and mages are easier to get into. (Could we see a larger focus on Spear/Meric/Mage?)
> Spear/Mage rush gains more power (kidding)

I feel perhaps this is a bandaid fix, or it could swing the meta too far into tank direction. OvO isn't all archers, it's only this because of the way people are playing right now. But it's not undefeatable, unexploitable or predictable. Archer heavy doesn't give map control necessary (tanks do), and can be prone to rush strategies.

It will be interesting for sure. It's hard to actually say what will happen without it being in the game. I look forward to something -anything- fresh.

Maybe I will come back to play Archer Empires because spear start may works after the update C:

I don't see why we would more spear/jug central play I like the fact that you can use ranged United behind swords then tier up. What about OvC? I don't see this becoming a good thing their are better ways to deal with archer central play such as buffing albows or increaseing their cost back too 350

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Thanks for spilling the beans, Ase.

The reason for this idea is to hopefully reduce the power of early archidon play by putting a more practical focus into a tank or jug unit. I don't know how I feel about it yet, but I recognize how strong archidons are and how good archer sword is.

I didn't say cj told me, I said zomar told me lol

But I thought you told me? Lol

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But I thought you told me? Lol

What? Lol zomar you told me about the 25 mana thing XD

Oh right yeah. I saw CJ mention it in a replay against some randomer who asked 'info on future updates'.

I still say fixing rage would be far better at balancing both OvO and OvC than reducing both jug and spear cost...

Theirs no appetite for the change Hopefuly CJ actualy reads the forums and notices this

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Theirs no appetite for the change Hopefuly CJ actualy reads the forums and notices this

CJ and brock probably have tons of things planned to execute after they finish their current projects.