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Feb 9, 2013 2:35 AM #877501
I've been on a losing streak recently since a few days after I got into 1700s and I've noticed that 1 of a few things happens.

1: My sword archer combo loses to another sword archer combo. I kite with the archer and go for the enemy archer, but going for the sword seems to do better, but I'm not entirely sure

2: Albow and/or giant mass. My economy harrasment doesn't seem to do it sometimes.

3: My army gets outnumbered. I think I need a better balance of Economy and army early game.

4: My units don't respond, possibly a glitch. Fixes?

Does anyone have any tips I could use?
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Feb 9, 2013 3:09 AM #877540
... You've been on a losing streak? You were 1700s for a while, I didn't notice a decline in rating. :confused:
Well, here's my answers.
1. I personally favor going for enemy archidon first, I've beaten many pros with that, except once the person becomes smart and moves the archer behind his sword and stuff, you're screwed. If both of you go for sword, it all depends on who shot first. Positioning. Make sure to get sword and archidon with archidon a bit in front of sword (sword is faster than archidon), so when you meet enemy, they are side by side.
2. Hm. Albow mass: a bunch of giant tanks with a few magikill. Giant mass: magikill, ninja, giants, albows combo.
3. That, I can't help you. I suppose you have to train your macro.
4. Probably lag (wyzdm and miamibigal can tell you in more detail of demongod who does that). When I played DEMONGOD, he was lagging like fuck (except without any lag count, it just froze for a sec, came back, etc). My units didn't respond properly either.
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Feb 9, 2013 3:13 AM #877550
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... You've been on a losing streak? You were 1700s for a while, I didn't notice a decline in rating. :confused:
Well, here's my answers.
1. I personally favor going for enemy archidon first, I've beaten many pros with that, except once the person becomes smart and moves the archer behind his sword and stuff, you're screwed. If both of you go for sword, it all depends on who shot first. Positioning. Make sure to get sword and archidon with archidon a bit in front of sword (sword is faster than archidon), so when you meet enemy, they are side by side.
2. Hm. Albow mass: a bunch of giant tanks with a few magikill. Giant mass: magikill, ninja, giants, albows combo.
3. That, I can't help you. I suppose you have to train your macro.
4. Probably lag (wyzdm and miamibigal can tell you in more detail of demongod who does that). When I played DEMONGOD, he was lagging like fuck (except without any lag count, it just froze for a sec, came back, etc). My units didn't respond properly either.


I've been winning a few games, but those have been against people in the 1500s and 1400s. I have no idea how I got matched with them after only a minute of searching, but regardless wins against them kept my rating up, but I don't really count those wins in my head. Crushing someone at those ranks doesn't seem like it should count.

1. That might work, I generally start with both of them running side by side and the sword ends up slightly in front of the archer.

2. Albows with blazing bolts really demolish my giants. They usually have like 6 albows by the time I get a giant grown halfway. I also have some archers and swords and sometimes some spears of course.

4. It's been happening more recently than ever which is odd. Maybe the SE servers are getting laggier as more people join (and make alts)
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Feb 9, 2013 3:15 AM #877554
Should train vs me or fr0st (if he doesn't lag out ofcourse :p)!
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Feb 9, 2013 3:47 AM #877592
^.^ a good suggestion, krayzstick. About how if you have 1 giant halfway grown, and they have 6 albows, obviously it's your macro skills are lower than your opponent. Also, even though the albows do heavy damage to giants, your magikill should be able to kill them quickly if all goes well.
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Feb 9, 2013 3:49 AM #877595
Albows are weak against magikill electric wall.
Remember that.
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Feb 9, 2013 3:52 AM #877598
Oh yeah? Albows move out of way until electric wall disappears. A better way to counter them: mass giants(when they are almost dead send the giant to the back)
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Feb 9, 2013 4:02 AM #877611
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^.^ a good suggestion, krayzstick. About how if you have 1 giant halfway grown, and they have 6 albows, obviously it's your macro skills are lower than your opponent. Also, even though the albows do heavy damage to giants, your magikill should be able to kill them quickly if all goes well.


Would you suggest getting a larger army to harrass economy or more economy? In my eyes, harrassing seems riskier but more rewarding, but I go with economy since it is safer.

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Albows are weak against magikill electric wall.
Remember that.


Electric wall is really useless against any unit that can move out of the way before death, AKA magikill or anything that is almost dead.
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Feb 9, 2013 4:04 AM #877612
Well, yea, but that's why you poison them while they're moving away!
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Feb 9, 2013 4:07 AM #877614
Check if they have castle archer or not (after 30 seconds of the game)
If they have: DO NOT HARRASS. Better get the central tower, create some high-tier unit, then create ghost units.
If they don't: HARRASS THEM like a mofo, and quickly kill as many miners that you can.
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Feb 9, 2013 4:09 AM #877616
Quote from Triss
Check if they have castle archer or not (after 30 seconds of the game)
If they have: DO NOT HARRASS. Better get the central tower, create some high-tier unit, then create ghost units.
If they don't: HARRASS THEM like a mofo, and quickly kill as many miners that you can.


What usually happens in my case is that they get castle archer after I have gone for their miners once or twice. By then, I have more swords since that is what I spent my money on to defend the tower. Would it be a good idea to send swords on suicide runs to kill miners?
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Feb 9, 2013 4:28 AM #877631
Quote from Triss
Check if they have castle archer or not (after 30 seconds of the game)
If they have: DO NOT HARRASS. Better get the central tower, create some high-tier unit, then create ghost units.


Ohhhh. Well, I haven't been doing that...
When you say high-tier unit, are you referring to speartons/albow/magi/ninja?

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What usually happens in my case is that they get castle archer after I have gone for their miners once or twice. By then, I have more swords since that is what I spent my money on to defend the tower. Would it be a good idea to send swords on suicide runs to kill miners?

I don't think so. Keep the swordwrath at the tower to defend the tower. They defend it well, especially in the opening.
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Feb 9, 2013 4:29 AM #877632
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What usually happens in my case is that they get castle archer after I have gone for their miners once or twice. By then, I have more swords since that is what I spent my money on to defend the tower. Would it be a good idea to send swords on suicide runs to kill miners?

Use them as a scout, while building more high-tier units.
If I have 3 swordwrath, I ussually send them one by one, while attacking their miner.
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Ohhhh. Well, I haven't been doing that...
When you say high-tier unit, are you referring to speartons/albow/magi/ninja?

Anything that isn't sword or archers.
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Feb 9, 2013 3:25 PM #878158
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What usually happens in my case is that they get castle archer after I have gone for their miners once or twice. By then, I have more swords since that is what I spent my money on to defend the tower. Would it be a good idea to send swords on suicide runs to kill miners?


Never suicide them unless you have enough money for high tier units. Although I usually mass swords and archidons these days... But send 1 sword or so to right outside castle archer range, as a scout
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Feb 9, 2013 3:40 PM #878172
If you have a few Spearton harass them in any case. Unless they have 3 Castle Archers and 2 Walls, which would cost a lot.
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