What is this black magic?!

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Feb 13, 2013 9:45 PM #882905
Well, recently I have been using my friend's account, and I was on my way up in the 1650's, then I met this strategy and now I'm at 1492.
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Feb 13, 2013 11:53 PM #883009
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evolving what is this Pokemon?!


What?!?! your Noob is evolving. *Nooby music queues* Congratulation your noob has evolved into a spearton spammer. Spearton spammer wants to learn shield wall and shield bash!!
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Feb 14, 2013 12:06 AM #883019
how are you supposed to make a giant army if hes sending speartons xD
just make more albows
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Feb 14, 2013 12:16 AM #883029
Is this one of the evolving newbies? He's noob...
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Feb 14, 2013 12:17 AM #883030
Well that's the thing, they send a spearton, and garrison it when it's low health, and send another. This way, they'll have about 10 speartons garrisoned while you're still making your miners go in and out of the castle for protection...
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Feb 14, 2013 1:24 AM #883110
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Is this one of the evolving newbies? He's noob...


Yep, evolving noobs.
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Feb 14, 2013 2:06 AM #883183
Evolving noobs is another way to say "progress". Isn't posting strategies here to boost progress, I mean really...
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Feb 14, 2013 4:07 AM #883293
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Evolving noobs is another way to say "progress". Isn't posting strategies here to boost progress, I mean really...


Indeed. But, the thing that bothers me is that they're starting with three miners, an opening that is inherently unsound, while I start with standard sword-archer or archer-miner, and yet they still win. If I may compare to chess, it's like saying I open with 1. e4 or 1. d4, and he opens with 1. a5 or 1. h5, and still manages to win by spamming rooks. It's ridiculous, and yet I can't find a way to counter it. It know there is a way. It would be awesome if a skilled player could play a friendly match with another skilled player and demonstrate the counter in a replay.
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Feb 14, 2013 5:47 PM #883777
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Indeed. But, the thing that bothers me is that they're starting with three miners, an opening that is inherently unsound, while I start with standard sword-archer or archer-miner, and yet they still win. If I may compare to chess, it's like saying I open with 1. e4 or 1. d4, and he opens with 1. a5 or 1. h5, and still manages to win by spamming rooks. It's ridiculous, and yet I can't find a way to counter it. It know there is a way. It would be awesome if a skilled player could play a friendly match with another skilled player and demonstrate the counter in a replay.


That's a great idea!

You just have to find to pros and make them record the replay.
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Feb 14, 2013 11:05 PM #883975
Ok, so here's basically an overview of the strategy people are using now.

1. Start with 3 miners. Set 1 on praying, 2 on gold.
2. If opponent rushes, get castle archer.
3. Get spearton as fast as you can. When it loads, rush their miners.
4. Send spearton to garrison when it gets low on health.
5. Repeat. Slowly amass more and more speartons.

How to counter... how...
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Feb 14, 2013 11:24 PM #883986
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Ok, so here's basically an overview of the strategy people are using now.

1. Start with 3 miners. Set 1 on praying, 2 on gold.
2. If opponent rushes, get castle archer.
3. Get spearton as fast as you can. When it loads, rush their miners.
4. Send spearton to garrison when it gets low on health.
5. Repeat. Slowly amass more and more speartons.

How to counter... how...


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Feb 15, 2013 12:59 AM #884102
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Indeed. But, the thing that bothers me is that they're starting with three miners, an opening that is inherently unsound, while I start with standard sword-archer or archer-miner, and yet they still win. If I may compare to chess, it's like saying I open with 1. e4 or 1. d4, and he opens with 1. a5 or 1. h5, and still manages to win by spamming rooks. It's ridiculous, and yet I can't find a way to counter it. It know there is a way. It would be awesome if a skilled player could play a friendly match with another skilled player and demonstrate the counter in a replay.


... Your opponent is starting with 3 miners. This should be simple to counter, and the solution should be easy to find. Use it yourself! You'll lose at some point, and just copy your opponent's strategy for beating this!

Archer/Sword doesn't work very well against the Spearton, so it's usually not the best. I generally start with 1 Sword.

Anyways, to the chess. You made a VERY grave mistake, my friend. You can't spam any unit in chess, since the pieces are pre-set and you don't buy anything in SE. And starting with a5 is really... Anyways I use Sicilian as black and use the standard e4 as white.
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Feb 15, 2013 1:13 AM #884116
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... Your opponent is starting with 3 miners. This should be simple to counter, and the solution should be easy to find. Use it yourself! You'll lose at some point, and just copy your opponent's strategy for beating this!


Hm, hadn't thought of that. I'll try that on my test account, thanks!

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Archer/Sword doesn't work very well against the Spearton, so it's usually not the best. I generally start with 1 Sword.

This I know, but I like the opening (it's pretty flexible), and I can't read the other guy's mind.

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Anyways, to the chess. You made a VERY grave mistake, my friend. You can't spam any unit in chess, since the pieces are pre-set and you don't buy anything in SE. And starting with a5 is really... Anyways I use Sicilian as black and use the standard e4 as white.

This is true, but the analogy holds. Remember when you were starting out and all the noobs around you started with 1. a4 because they wanted to get their a1 rook into the game as fast as possible? That's basically what the quick spearton is like. Obviously the analogy doesn't extend so far as to include economic development and micro/macro, but it still holds to a certain degree, enough to make my point.
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Feb 15, 2013 1:30 AM #884124
Not really. In that case, they would play d4 and get their Queen into play, which doesn't work very well but is better than rook. People played a5 because they simply had nothing better to do. They wanted to go on the defense.

So don't go on the defense. Beat 3 Miners by economy harassment. You have a head start on your army. USE it.
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Feb 15, 2013 1:55 AM #884173
Chess talk :/ I don't understand anything..