I would have posted in the link of the day but I think this has debate potential
He has some valid points on this subject I mean you guys(and I'm talking to both sides)
can't be 100% sure that it does or doesn't.
Atheists are Stupid, and Why
Started by: Moreno | Replies: 8 | Views: 890 | Closed
Mar 5, 2013 11:10 PM #905336
Mar 5, 2013 11:48 PM #905385
Having grown up in a religious house (but no longer necessarily believing in said religion), I can find two flaws in his theory (based on the beliefs of said religion (Christianity)):
1. You'll be pretty lucky to die on a deathbed. Most people that die in a deathbed die from old age and/or some debilitating disease, and that's pretty much a small minority. Most people will die unexpectedly, i.e. a car accident, heart attack, stroke, etc.
2. If you are "lucky" enough to die on a deathbed, you can't simply mutter the words that you accept Jesus blah blah blah and suddenly you'll go to heaven. According to Christianity, it has to be a "real" confession, not simply confessing for the sake of getting into heaven at the last minute.
As for Atheists being "preachy", I suppose it's true. One could argue that people are "preachy" on both ends of the spectrum of beliefs.
1. You'll be pretty lucky to die on a deathbed. Most people that die in a deathbed die from old age and/or some debilitating disease, and that's pretty much a small minority. Most people will die unexpectedly, i.e. a car accident, heart attack, stroke, etc.
2. If you are "lucky" enough to die on a deathbed, you can't simply mutter the words that you accept Jesus blah blah blah and suddenly you'll go to heaven. According to Christianity, it has to be a "real" confession, not simply confessing for the sake of getting into heaven at the last minute.
As for Atheists being "preachy", I suppose it's true. One could argue that people are "preachy" on both ends of the spectrum of beliefs.
Mar 6, 2013 2:46 AM #905559
What are we supposed to debate here?
Mar 6, 2013 11:28 AM #905942
Quote from "Dara Ó Briain"Science knows it doesn't know everything, otherwise it would stop.
Completely denying something is not scientific. We have no idea whether or not we are correct with all of our theories. It seems likely that our thoughts are correct in some ways, but everything that science
"proves" is constantly being tested out again, and again, and again, until we notice that something with the theory doesn't quite add up. This can either mean that the theory has been proven wrong, or simply some little details need to be changed in order for it to work out.
Take our theorie of how the solar system is built up. Originally it was believed that the planets orbited the sun in perfect circles, but Kepler proved that they move in elliptical patterns.
Our understanding of the Universe is ever-changing and denying something completely because it looks improbable is not scientific.
Most religion are full of contradictions though, which show that religious texts are not reliable sources for descriptions of such an entity. If there is a god, no known human has ever described, or preached it.(Probably)
Mar 6, 2013 3:43 PM #906155
athiests aren't "preachy". the only reason you think that is because the only athiests you hear anything from are the preachy ones
Mar 6, 2013 6:07 PM #906280
Being an atheist doesn't necessarily mean "I know God doesn't exist". There are different subtypes of atheism and they all involve different views and beliefs.
Either way it'd be better to actually ask someone what they believe outside of these broadly generalized labels, and then actually respond to what they say. But I guess that would make for a shitty Youtube video.
Either way it'd be better to actually ask someone what they believe outside of these broadly generalized labels, and then actually respond to what they say. But I guess that would make for a shitty Youtube video.
Mar 7, 2013 2:41 AM #906757
Believing, is thinking something is fact, without it being 100% true. (Can't word that better)
Religious people believe God exist, they don't know.
Atheist believe God doesn't exist, they don't know.
Some people don't care. (Please don't switch topics to Gays)
If someone is Atheist, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Gay, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Religious, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Racists, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
See my point?
Not every person is out to show off their beliefs and views. And not every atheist is going to jump on a religious conversation. I am Theist, and I have different views then Christians, if they don't ask me to input, then I won't jump in and fuck with their views. No one knows shit about god, you believe what you do, if you're wrong you're wrong if you're right you're right.
It's a bit frustrating, watching people say "All atheist try to do is prove religion wrong" but that's bullshit, some preach it to the world, some don't. But religious people are just as guilty, some will argue with atheist about their views, and when atheist fight back they are shown as bad guys. Everyone wants to be right, not everyone does this shit. Honestly there are sooooo many atheist and no one knows because they don't say shit. The fact that they are atheist doesn't mean they want to prove you wrong, they just have a different belief, and just like religious people will defend their religion, atheist will do the same. Honestly, no one should say shit about what they believe in, and should leave their religion and views out of others lives, unless they want you to interfere.
Religious people believe God exist, they don't know.
Atheist believe God doesn't exist, they don't know.
Some people don't care. (Please don't switch topics to Gays)
If someone is Atheist, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Gay, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Religious, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
If someone is Racists, and they don't say shit about it, then you won't know.
See my point?
Not every person is out to show off their beliefs and views. And not every atheist is going to jump on a religious conversation. I am Theist, and I have different views then Christians, if they don't ask me to input, then I won't jump in and fuck with their views. No one knows shit about god, you believe what you do, if you're wrong you're wrong if you're right you're right.
It's a bit frustrating, watching people say "All atheist try to do is prove religion wrong" but that's bullshit, some preach it to the world, some don't. But religious people are just as guilty, some will argue with atheist about their views, and when atheist fight back they are shown as bad guys. Everyone wants to be right, not everyone does this shit. Honestly there are sooooo many atheist and no one knows because they don't say shit. The fact that they are atheist doesn't mean they want to prove you wrong, they just have a different belief, and just like religious people will defend their religion, atheist will do the same. Honestly, no one should say shit about what they believe in, and should leave their religion and views out of others lives, unless they want you to interfere.
Mar 7, 2013 3:33 AM #906790
Quote from PinAtheist believe God doesn't exist, they don't know.
This is wrong. Atheists don't believe any god exists. There's a big difference. Atheism has nothing to do with belief.
This topic is just flame baiting. If OP truly wants to discuss it, he can make a new topic that isn't shit and explain his point of view himself rather than linking a satirical video that doesn't really demonstrate anything.
Mar 7, 2013 11:40 PM #907500
I agree, this is literally just trying to grab peoples attention and make them mad. To say someone is stupid for not believing in something just because others tell you to believe it based upon how you were brought up. I mean that from either side of the argument.