What are the best openings?

I know for Medium Maps, I do 2 Miners/1 Sword. The first 2 miners already placed go on gold, the 3rd on mana, 4th on gold. I buy another Sword as soon as possible, same as Rage.

Some others include 1 Archer/1 Miner. Place Archidon at base until SwordWrath loads from the first gold intake. Then attack.

This works better than 1 Sword/1 Archer right off the bat.

2 Swords/1 Miner. I usually don't do this. Does the 3rd miner go on gold or mana?

Any other openings?

I do the following:

Short map
Archer + Sword
First 150 gold is another sword

Medium Map
Archer + Sword
First 150 gold is a miner

Long map
Archer + Miner
First 150 gold is a miner if few forces are encountered, sword if archer and sword is encountered.

Hmm... What do you do on Swamp if you encounter Early Spartan?

Well the first 150 gold is another sword. Your third batch of 150 gold should be coming in soon, which gives you a sword in the queue. That's 3 swords + 1 archer > 1 spearton.

Now, of course, I have no idea what you'd do if you encountered a Spartan. Those guys are violent.

I was just going to make a thread like this....

Quote from jli

Well the first 150 gold is another sword. Your third batch of 150 gold should be coming in soon, which gives you a sword in the queue. That's 3 swords + 1 archer > 1 spearton.

Now, of course, I have no idea what you'd do if you encountered a Spartan. Those guys are violent.

No. On Swamp, I only have time for 2 Swords. My opponent also makes 2 Swords.

Well, ok, I lied *a bit*. You need to retreat (into garrison). You don't lose much time, and about 5 secs later you get your 3rd sword.

Trust me, this works, I've faced quick spearton many times.
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doesn't matter speartons are still dominant for paying themselves and harrasing especially in the start

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doesn't matter speartons are still dominant for paying themselves and harrasing especially in the start

...Trust me, they aren't. Once your opponent gets rage, your spearton is dead. And then you've wasted 450g and 50m, which your opponent spent on two swordwrath (still alive), one miner, and rage. So, you're behind economically and militarily.

Speartons are possibly the worst to start out with. Unless you battle nubs.

I never use Archidon opening, I can always beat Spearton with 2 Sword/1 Miner or 2 Miners/1 Sword opening, it just happened on my Alt I tried to use Archidon. I was wondering how you counter it, because I went into Garrison, my opponent had made another Sword, killed my Archidon, and then his Spearton was almost dead and went into Garrison. By then, he had 3 more Swords. I lost.

The fact that your archer died means that you didn't kite well enough.

i dont start out with speartons mind you

Archer sword start are the best start to counter campers.

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Archer sword start are the best start to counter campers.

Are campers turtles? If so, 1 sword is the best counter.