Bush was a terrible president. Bush is a idiot with power basically. He doesn't give two ****s about us, and never will. He only cares about how much stuff he can fit in his pockets. I can't even believe how he got elected the second time. A bell should've rang in everyone's head saying, wait, we have enough mistakes done already by this bastard, lets vote democratic for the other guy.

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Ohhhh.. my bad. lol.

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I think for what we've gone through in the last 8 years, he did a good job.

We have to remember he's had to deal with the biggest terrorist attack in the US's history, Hurricane Katrina, California starting on fire, rising gas prices and the entire economy basically falling apart because of it, and probably a bunch of other issues I can't currently remember right now. He's probably had one of the most stressful terms a president's had to go through in decades.

For that reason no matter what decision he chooses to make towards these issues that've come up, he's obviously going to draw criticism from a lot of people. For the most part, though, he could have done a lot worse as a president.

It's true that it's a stressful job, but he has to know how to handle these things when he takes on such a stressful job, like a leader should. Shit always hits the fan in a country as big as the U.S. War ends up happening, crisis breaks in the world at least every year, and systems in America always end up failing, and the president is always somehow to blame for all of this. It really sucks that such judgment passes, but again, in taking a job like this, knowing your position is vital in my opinion.

It's true that he could have done a lot worse, but the point is he could have done much better than much worse. He isn't on the equilibrium of good and bad, but veers toward the bad side of performance. However, there have been much worse presidents even at less stressful times.

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Worst. President. Ever.
More vacation days than any other president and he never actually won an election. Both times were rigged. T_T

Harsh claim among over 40 presidents.

Those two claims don't even give a reason for a BAD president, let alone the worst.

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It's true that it's a stressful job, but he has to know how to handle these things when he takes on such a stressful job

There isn't exactly a presidential protocol during unexpected floods, fires and terrorist attacks.

My point is that even if he reacted in the best way possible, there would always be a shitload of people whining about what he did because that's the way of thinking now -- everything he does is wrong.

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I think for what we've gone through in the last 8 years, he did a good job.

We have to remember he's had to deal with the biggest terrorist attack in the US's history, Hurricane Katrina, California starting on fire, rising gas prices and the entire economy basically falling apart because of it, and probably a bunch of other issues I can't currently remember right now. He's probably had one of the most stressful terms a president's had to go through in decades.

For that reason no matter what decision he chooses to make towards these issues that've come up, he's obviously going to draw criticism from a lot of people. For the most part, though, he could have done a lot worse as a president.

have you heard of the new book called "What Happened"? It talks about how only a few weeks after 9/11, Bush had already made the decision to try to pin it on Iraq, with no evidence at all to support his theory. He ruined Katrina, and as you can see in China, with their earthquake and all, he did a terrible job. China has actually managed the disaster well and is providing almost full aid to the affected. Bush and FEMA failed while Bush was chilling at his ranch. He caused the death of tens of thousands of people by invading Iraq for no reason, as we can all now see. There was no evidence that Saddam had weapons at all. He's ruined America's reputation for 8 years.

There is no possible argument that can even begin to suggest that Bush handled the disasters that met him well. He and the entire Federal government has failed everyone.

The only possible way that he could have done worse would have been if he... wow i actually have to think... maybe if he died and Darth Chaney was president. Now that would be hell.

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At no rate is Bush a good president, but he is definitely not the worst. He often gets bashed because of things he didn't even do, but was done by his administration.
Also, people seem to pin the war is squarely because of Bush, but a president can not simply just invade countries at will. Also, Clinton was actually the one to begin action in Iraq, one month after the Iraq Liberation Act. The war also received report by many congressmen and senators, including Hillary Clinton.

I do not support him, I do not like him, but get ****ing educated. He is not the worst president ever, and I don't think he hates black people.

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have you heard of the new book called "What Happened"? It talks about...

Sorry, but quite honestly I've stopped paying attention to the individual people or small groups of them that publish information about what they think happened during disasters, as much as I've stopped caring about people who argue against certain points when their information relies on that type of information. This was mainly thanks to the many Youtube videos that convinced a large number of idiots that Bush was to blame for 9/11.

So yeah, I find your claims to be completely ridiculous.

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...It talks about how only a few weeks after 9/11, Bush had already made the decision to try to pin it on Iraq, with no evidence at all to support his theory.

As I said, we had already been bombing Iraq for three years prior to 9/11, it was a reasonable conclusion to make.

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He ruined Katrina, and as you can see in China, with their earthquake and all, he did a terrible job. China has actually managed the disaster well and is providing almost full aid to the affected. Bush and FEMA failed while Bush was chilling at his ranch. He caused the death of tens of thousands of people by invading Iraq for no reason

We were currently at war, with 9/11 occuring not long before, and did not have many men, supplies, or money to spare. Also, where the hell are you getting these numbers? There were only about 2,500 casualties, as compared to the nearly 456,000 casualties in China. Though the percentage may be lower in China, that is still an enormous number. What happened it New Orleans may have been bad, but it has been exaggerated.

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There was no evidence that Saddam had weapons at all

This is false

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There is no possible argument that can even begin to suggest that Bush handled the disasters that met him well.

This is true

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He and the entire Federal government has failed everyone.

This is ridiculous

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Sorry, but quite honestly I've stopped paying attention to the individual people or small groups of them that publish information about what they think happened during disasters, as much as I've stopped caring about people who argue against certain points when their information relies on that type of information. This was mainly thanks to the many Youtube videos that convinced a large number of idiots that Bush was to blame for 9/11.

So yeah, I find your claims to be completely ridiculous.

It was written by Scott McClellan, Bush's White House Press Secretary at the time of every disaster I talk about. It's not what he thinks happened, it's what Bush told him and what he saw during his job there. Also, I was talking about Iraq, not Katrina. I exaggerated when i say the government failed everyone. And yes, if you've been following the CIA documentation disclosures, there was no ground to suggest Saddam had WMDs. Actually, before the war, Saddam actually offered Bush to search Iraq for nukes.

Also, there is no argument over whether FEMA did well or not about Katrina. That's set in stone that they did badly. Bush even apologized.

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It was written by Scott Mclellen, Bush's White House Press Secretary at the time of every disaster I talk about. It's not what he thinks happened, it's what Bush told him and what he saw during his job there. So now, kindly read the rest of my post.

Oh, it was written by a politician.
So then we must immediately accept it as fact.

I love how politicians are only credible when they're confirming conspiracies about other politicians.

Wow it seems the tables have turned. Now you're the conspiracy theorist talking about how Scott McClellan lied about Bush in his book. It all fits into place, except for one problem: why would he lie? He's republican, he worked for Bush, he always supported him, so why lie about him to ruin his credibility? thats what makes this book so much different from everything else. Theres nothing in it for McClellan, in fact theres a bunch of things he'll lose from releasing the book, but it makes him more trustworthy.

I'm not being a conspiracy theorist, I'm simply saying that most conspiracies rely on the fact that politicians are corrupt, but now that there's a politician confirming some ridiculous claims, it's suddenly reliable information?

Either way we're getting off topic. Most of the reasons you claimed for hating Bush were either very indirectly caused by him or not affiliated with him at all.