Yagami Light
Light Yagami is an intelligent young adult who resents all things evil. He also wishes to end crime in the world and create a utopia in which he reigns supreme. His life undergoes a drastic change when he discovers the Death Note, a notebook that contains five written instructions:

-The human whose name is written in this notebook shall die.
-This notebook will not take effect unless the writer has the subject's face in their mind when writing his/her name.
-Therefore, people sharing the same name will not be affected.
-If the cause of death is written within 40 seconds of writing the person's name, it will happen.
-If the cause of death is not specified, the person will simply die of a heart attack.
-After writing the cause of death, the details of the death should be written in the next 6 minutes and 40 seconds.


Lelouch Lamperouge
Lelouch, an exiled Imperial Prince of Britannia posing as a student, finds himself in the heart of the ongoing conflict for Japan. Through a chance meeting with a mysterious girl named C.C., Lelouch gains his Geass, the power of the king. Now endowed with absolute dominance over any person. In short, he can command anyone if he can have eye to eye contact with that person. However, the Geass can only be used once per person.


If these two were living on the same anime, who will achieve world domination first ?

I only know in detail about Light Yagami, so....
Lelouch. Because, even if they each knew that they were both trying for world domination, Light would most likely have to see Lelouch to be able to kill him. And when he does, Lelouch uses his power to control light and make him hand over the death note and commit suicide.

BUT: if Light still has control of the police and stuff (like in the real Death Note), he can just find Lelouch's file (because they liven the same manga now), see his name and picture, and then kill him.

My vote: no one.

I would say Lelouch, he always think further ahead and has more power and many followers on his side plus he has meachs.
He actually made his goal come truth he stopped hatred by getting everyone to hate him he stopped his parents from trying to kill God and be immortal,
He has more a chance of winning, and his are pretty skilled mother fuckers he gotten control over both sides and manged to make any problem go his way.
And Light and Leouch do not got to same school there in a different time period and go to different schools Unlikely that light would even know about Lelouch or even look for him, Lelouch does everything as zero, so he would have nothing on him and no file to look for.I say Lelouch lamperouge wins.

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I would say Lelouch, he always think further ahead and has more power and many followers on his side plus he has meachs.
He actually made his goal come truth he stopped hatred by getting everyone to hate him he stopped his parents from trying to kill God and be immortal,
He has more a chance of winning, and his are pretty skilled mother fuckers he gotten control over both sides and manged to make any problem go his way.
And Light and Leouch do not got to same school there in a different time period and go to different schools Unlikely that light would even know about Lelouch or even look for him, Lelouch does everything as zero, so he would have nothing on him and no file to look for.I say Lelouch lamperouge wins.

I'm not on Light's side but I'm just making the conversations longer. If Lelouch does everything as Zero, then Light does everything as Kira. It's true that Lelouch had an army of Knightmares but they don't know each other ATM. He can't just raid and kill every single highchool boy that he sees lol

Light died like a bitch.

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Light died like a bitch.

lol true and Lelouch's death made me cry

maybe that's the defference between them

I would say that lelouch would win cause even in code geass only a few people know his real identity which is Lelouch vi Britania not Lelouch lamperouge and I think that he is smarter than light cause light only battled one person which is L-Lawliet while lelouch battled a whole empire so he would have to think about controlling more units, the terrain and other stuff

code geass was the greatest thing i have ever watched

lelouch all the way

So Lelouch wins hands down.

Light can manipulate people too. But he doesn't need any eyes to do it... I'm not talking about controling people with the death note, i'm talking about how he can confuse people, how he can convince people to get what he wants... a great example is how Light acted like he wanted to capture Kira to know Naomi Misora's name; that scene is just the most fucked up death note's scene. Also, light can have the control of the japanese police, he can get anyone on his side by just talking to them. Also, if lelouch wants to kill Light, he have to make eye contact. Light can deduce that if Lelouch wants to dominate the world, he MUST have some kind of power like he does (the death note). so he can take preventions in order to defeat lelouch (like talking trough a computer like L does, using a fake name, and even SUNGLASSES).
He can also create really complicated plans in order to get what he wants (a name, someone's trust, anything).
And if the situation requires it, he just can make the Shinigami's eyes treat so he can know lelouch's name with just looking at a picture of him, and killing it on the act.
The weakness of the geass is that you have to make eye contact directly with the other person. With the shinigami eyes, he can just kill with a picture. Also, it's not necessary for light to change his eyes... he can keep a sheep of paper from the death note, give the death note to someone else, make that person kill lelouch with the eyes, and then he can just recover the death note. Even he can make someone face Lelouch instead of him to prevent any danger. So...

I think is a utterly defeat, Light is just a damn genius >_>

Also...

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Light died like a bitch.

Yeah, maybe he did. But if that's the most important thing you can say about him, then you didn't undestood the message that this series wants to transmit...

Death note is the best manga/anime ever created. Not for the drawings (wich are awesome) but for the story itself. There's no cliche character (except for misa... blonde = stupid. But that's not a japanese cliche... a japanese cliche would be the stupid guy who loves to eat, never gives up, and have a enourmous power inside of him... Like Goku... Or naruto... or Luffy... >_>)
also, the main character dies. the main character's enemy (Elle) also dies. Mello dies. Mikami dies. Misa dies. Takada dies. EVERY F*CKING PERSON DIES. And that's what makes it great. you can't say "oh he won't die because he's important for the plot". NOPE. If it's important, it will die, muthafucka. There's a lot of good things on Light's death... He was killed with the death note. Killed with his own mean... with the book he used to kill criminal... the greatest criminal, wich killed thousands of people with a book... was killed... with his own book. he was killed by the same god of death that gave him his power by accident...
Even at the end, like L said... "justice will prevail". But the main message that death note wants to transmit is... There's NO definition of justice... everyone have his own definition... "Nobody can tell what is right and what is wrong; what is righteous and what is evil. Even if there is a god and I had his teachings right before me, I would think it through and decide if that was right or wrong myself."- Nate River (Near).

Another message transmited by this series is... A man with the power of a god, that consider himself a god... and kill people with that power, it's not a god. Is just a mere murderer, like a common man with a gun.
"No. You're just a murderer, Light Yagami. And this notebook is the deadliest weapon of mass murder in the history of mankind. You yielded to the power of the shinigami and the notebook and you have confused yourself with a god. In the end, you're nothing more than a crazy serial killer. That's all you are. Nothing more, and nothing less." - Nate River (Near).

Did I say it was the most "important thing"?

By simply stating one fact, it is as if you took it as an insult and felt in necessary to defend the character, by validating how great the series is. Note, this thread is not talking about the series, it is talking about the characters. Hence why your last paragraph was off topic and completely unnecessary, and clarifies that you have an extreme bias towards Death Note.

And a great series does not necessarily mean that it has great or likable lead characters. Towards the end Light was easily the most loathed character. Despite him being a complete douche bag in the end, do I call the series terrible? No. And because Death Note is a great series, am I afraid to criticize its characters? No.

I find it funny how you asked me if what I said was the most important thing about the character, but yet you ended up avoiding the topic of his "character". So to make it clear, this discussion (in order to have the tiniest bit of relevance to the prompt), is not about what message the "series" transmits to the audience, but the message the "characters" actions transmits to the audience. Give me a character analysis, not an essay on the themes of Death Note...

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Light can manipulate people too. But he doesn't need any eyes to do it... I'm not talking about controling people with the death note, i'm talking about how he can confuse people, how he can convince people to get what he wants... a great example is how Light acted like he wanted to capture Kira to know Naomi Misora's name; that scene is just the most fucked up death note's scene. Also, light can have the control of the japanese police, he can get anyone on his side by just talking to them. Also, if lelouch wants to kill Light, he have to make eye contact. Light can deduce that if Lelouch wants to dominate the world, he MUST have some kind of power like he does (the death note). so he can take preventions in order to defeat lelouch (like talking trough a computer like L does, using a fake name, and even SUNGLASSES).
He can also create really complicated plans in order to get what he wants (a name, someone's trust, anything).
And if the situation requires it, he just can make the Shinigami's eyes treat so he can know lelouch's name with just looking at a picture of him, and killing it on the act.
The weakness of the geass is that you have to make eye contact directly with the other person. With the shinigami eyes, he can just kill with a picture. Also, it's not necessary for light to change his eyes... he can keep a sheep of paper from the death note, give the death note to someone else, make that person kill lelouch with the eyes, and then he can just recover the death note. Even he can make someone face Lelouch instead of him to prevent any danger. So...

I think is a utterly defeat, Light is just a damn genius >_>

Also...

Yeah, maybe he did. But if that's the most important thing you can say about him, then you didn't undestood the message that this series wants to transmit...

Death note is the best manga/anime ever created. Not for the drawings (wich are awesome) but for the story itself. There's no cliche character (except for misa... blonde = stupid. But that's not a japanese cliche... a japanese cliche would be the stupid guy who loves to eat, never gives up, and have a enourmous power inside of him... Like Goku... Or naruto... or Luffy... >_>)
also, the main character dies. the main character's enemy (Elle) also dies. Mello dies. Mikami dies. Misa dies. Takada dies. EVERY F*CKING PERSON DIES. And that's what makes it great. you can't say "oh he won't die because he's important for the plot". NOPE. If it's important, it will die, muthafucka. There's a lot of good things on Light's death... He was killed with the death note. Killed with his own mean... with the book he used to kill criminal... the greatest criminal, wich killed thousands of people with a book... was killed... with his own book. he was killed by the same god of death that gave him his power by accident...
Even at the end, like L said... "justice will prevail". But the main message that death note wants to transmit is... There's NO definition of justice... everyone have his own definition... "Nobody can tell what is right and what is wrong; what is righteous and what is evil. Even if there is a god and I had his teachings right before me, I would think it through and decide if that was right or wrong myself."- Nate River (Near).

Another message transmited by this series is... A man with the power of a god, that consider himself a god... and kill people with that power, it's not a god. Is just a mere murderer, like a common man with a gun.
"No. You're just a murderer, Light Yagami. And this notebook is the deadliest weapon of mass murder in the history of mankind. You yielded to the power of the shinigami and the notebook and you have confused yourself with a god. In the end, you're nothing more than a crazy serial killer. That's all you are. Nothing more, and nothing less." - Nate River (Near).

Light would never make that eye deal he turned it down 2 times already, so what if Light is good with computers Lelouch has mecha robots he controls entire empire plus he has a huge set of allies, he doesn't need direct eye contact to kill some one, and Lelouch is a bigger manipulate than light we all know how far he thinks of head. He can even predict what people would say and respond to them on a recorded video. Light couldn't get Lelouch's name even if he hacked the computer or searched his files. Lelouch wins on all counts at the end of his story he actually succeed and light failed,out smarted by L's successors. He walked into a trap. Lelouch been in a trap but he's always gotten out of it.
Lets see them fight in a death battle Lelouch wins that no doubt.
And Misa didn't die she got away and gave up the death not losing her memories of it, didn't you see her on the train, she got away and lived.

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Light can manipulate people too. But he doesn't need any eyes to do it... I'm not talking about controling people with the death note, i'm talking about how he can confuse people, how he can convince people to get what he wants... a great example is how Light acted like he wanted to capture Kira to know Naomi Misora's name; that scene is just the most fucked up death note's scene. Also, light can have the control of the japanese police, he can get anyone on his side by just talking to them. Also, if lelouch wants to kill Light, he have to make eye contact. Light can deduce that if Lelouch wants to dominate the world, he MUST have some kind of power like he does (the death note). so he can take preventions in order to defeat lelouch (like talking trough a computer like L does, using a fake name, and even SUNGLASSES).
He can also create really complicated plans in order to get what he wants (a name, someone's trust, anything).
And if the situation requires it, he just can make the Shinigami's eyes treat so he can know lelouch's name with just looking at a picture of him, and killing it on the act.
The weakness of the geass is that you have to make eye contact directly with the other person. With the shinigami eyes, he can just kill with a picture. Also, it's not necessary for light to change his eyes... he can keep a sheep of paper from the death note, give the death note to someone else, make that person kill lelouch with the eyes, and then he can just recover the death note. Even he can make someone face Lelouch instead of him to prevent any danger. So...

you're talking like lelouch relies on his geass power to control and manipulate people and events.

he doesn't.

at all.

it doesn't sound to me like you've even seen code geass. i don't think anybody can out-plan lelouch.

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Light would never make that eye deal he turned it down 2 times already, so what if Light is good with computers Lelouch has mecha robots he controls entire empire plus he has a huge set of allies, he doesn't need direct eye contact to kill some one, and Lelouch is a bigger manipulate than light we all know how far he thinks of head. He can even predict what people would say and respond to them on a recorded video. Light couldn't get Lelouch's name even if he hacked the computer or searched his files. Lelouch wins on all counts at the end of his story he actually succeed and light failed,out smarted by L's successors. He walked into a trap. Lelouch been in a trap but he's always gotten out of it.
Lets see them fight in a death battle Lelouch wins that no doubt.
And Misa didn't die she got away and gave up the death not losing her memories of it, didn't you see her on the train, she got away and lived.

You only watched the anime, didn't you? she kills herself on valentine's day after light death... also, if Lelouch have mechas and robots an army and all that shit, then it's stupid to compare Light with lelouch, because, obviously, Code geass, on that case, is way more fantastic than Death note... Death note is the more realistic shonen/seinen series... while other shonen have a lot of fantastic powers, with mechas and all that shit, death note only have a book that kills people, and shinigamis (that can't be used by humans, except on really specific situation, like when light manipulates Rem to kill L). If lelouch have a lot of mechas and armys, then he can just kill the fuck up everyone that gets close to him. It's stupid compare a man with an army and mechas with a student that only have his killing book and his inteligence. However, light doesn't need to make the deal by himself... has i said, he just can make someone else to do it (like misa). With only a picture, or a video, he can kill lelouch. And also, if we are counting all the resources that both characters can have, then Light can team up with L Even with Near and mello (It's really hard for N and M to join the case, through). With L, they jave two fake identities, and double inteligence. With L' influence on the world police, even the army, they can get an army has big has lelouch's.

However...

Comparing two character from two different kind of worlds it's pretty hard... it would be easier to comparte two characters from the same series...

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It's stupid compare a man with an army and mechas with a student that only have his killing book and his inteligence

lelouch is just a student with a geass power, though. he takes over the world and gains control of all that shit because of how bad ass he is