I tried taking people's advice. I tried a lot of possibilities. I just can't. I just can't.
CHAOS.
Tecness2, you can block this thread. Do I care? No, I don't. I just can't grasp the magic of these people's advice.
Nobody could be able to help. I just don't know. I could never be able to stay in the 1700's.
I always face a LAGGER who could get away with it.
Do you know how hard to maneuver my army to avoid these bombers? How could you say that you updated the lag issues, when you really didn't.
Call me a spammer, obnoxious idiot, noob, I don't give a crap.
If I lost to Order so many times, at least I can learn from my mistakes. If it was darn Chaos, I couldn't. I lost against Chaos players who's ratings were 1500's and lower.
"Idiot, Chaos is balanced."
- No the hell it's not. Not for free players. Do you expect us to know everything about Chaos? By the time we adapted to fighting Chaos, our ranks are going to be at least between 1400 and 1500. Who's stupid idea was it to combine a giant who could do AOE, bombers who could wipe out weak units, Eclipsors who deals great damage and costs less, AUTO-HEAL, FAST MOVING MONKEYS (Crawlers). They dominate the beginning, middle, and end match.
"Build a wall dum@ss"
- Hell with you. I still lose. You know why? My economy will always suck. I can't make a comeback. By the time EYE have a good army, HE HAS A BETTER ONE. He destroys my wall, and then manually detonate his bombers to destroy my Flying Crossbowmen. On top of that, his big giant and Juggerknights are stunning all my Speartons. If I move some of my Speartons behind the giant to defeat him, I only get more damaged by the Wingadons supporting the Giants.
"Get a Magikill shethead"
- NO. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? MY ECONOMY SUCKS.
"...get a ninja?"
- Screw you.
THE ONLY WAYS I BEATEN CHAOS WAS BECAUSE I MANAGED TO COVER MYSELF IN GREASE AND BARELY SLID PAST THE CHAOTIC (pun intended) WARFARE.
These tactics never work for me. I'm starting to believe that the advice these Chaos players give are only just to help their members. And how could I EVER prepare myself for the overpowered onslaught of the Elementals?
Let me guess, Elementals are even stronger than Chaos. WIND ELEMENTAL BLOWS AWAY YOUR ARMY BACK TO IT'S BASE. FREE CENTRAL TOWER!EXPLODE THEM WITH FIRE ELEMENTAL STICKMAN! CRUSH THEM TO PIECES WITH THE ROCK STICK FIGURE. COMBINE ALL ELEMENTALS TO CRUSH EVERYBODY IN THE MAP! YAYYYY
Using Chaos requires no skill. Just buy 2 crawlers and 1 bomber, BOOM! You got the central tower. Buy some Wingadons, Huggerknights here and there. Get a ghost... BOOM! You win!
People who made Stick Empires, thank you for making this game fun for a while. I appreciate it. But now as I prospered deeper into Stick Empires, I'm starting to lose feelings for it. I could only uncover the truth that this game is becoming more one-sided towards the members. I understand, you need to make a profit for a living. Just like every other "FREE TO PLAY!" game...
I'm admitting! I need attention! This is an issue I can't solve! What can I do?! Do you guys want me to quit? Comment saying either "Yes! I do want you to quit!" or "No, don't."
I just can't learn from my mistakes.
Started by: Narsheh | Replies: 15 | Views: 1,164
Apr 6, 2013 7:20 AM #938923
Apr 6, 2013 9:11 AM #938983
Hum... you need a teacher, go to find some top players in Team Zenith chat box
and seek a teacher
and seek a teacher
Apr 6, 2013 11:47 AM #939039
CHAOS SUCKS!!!:mad:
BUT YOU DO NOT! :D
If there is anything I've learned from WyzDM, Crimshock, Tecness, Azxc, Aiman, Daemonic,
BUT YOU DO NOT! :D
If there is anything I've learned from WyzDM, Crimshock, Tecness, Azxc, Aiman, Daemonic,
, IHATETHISNAME, Jli, 3FFA (When he was here), BlnseBetaPlay, CaptainChaos(Corps)2, FR0ST and many Others is TO NEVER GIVE UP!!!Quote from GaleForce-"Buddy Stop your B*tching"
Apr 6, 2013 12:57 PM #939087
yeah, dont give up!!!!!!
Apr 6, 2013 1:06 PM #939096
Another useless thread....... anyways don't quit, get a teacher from adopt a newb. Also chas neeeds no skill huh? That's some big lies buddy macro and micro has chaos is harder hen rder
Apr 6, 2013 1:33 PM #939134
Huggerknight :O
ALL ELEMENTALS BLOW AWAY YOU FROM TEH MAP?That made my day fo real XD.
Well im noob but i dont quit like a bitch :3
ALL ELEMENTALS BLOW AWAY YOU FROM TEH MAP?That made my day fo real XD.
Well im noob but i dont quit like a bitch :3
Apr 6, 2013 2:28 PM #939224
Dude. You can't win: because you don't have the skill. I don't know how long you've been playing, but I doubt it was super long. Many of us are from Alpha or Beta, and some of us get the feel of how to play, and others don't. But if you give up because you can't beat chaos RIGHT NOW, then you don't deserve to be a pro.
Becoming a pro takes PATIENCE.
Chaos does NEED MORE SKILL to use. You're thinking: well 2 crawlers beat a sword. So chaos start OP. well, you need perfect micro to do that. Plus, crawlers cost 75 more gold.
Economy: try to match them. You know they usually start 2 crawlers 2 miners. You start 2 miners 1 sword. You should be able to win the center unless you are really good microers. Even if you lose, you still have equal economy (not counting center.)
Bombers? Ugh, I have trouble with those too. Spread your units? Crawlers PWN. Keep them together, bombers PWN. What you have to do, is figure out which sword the bombers are targeting, and then move it toward the bombers (alone), and they will blow up.
Becoming a pro takes PATIENCE.
Chaos does NEED MORE SKILL to use. You're thinking: well 2 crawlers beat a sword. So chaos start OP. well, you need perfect micro to do that. Plus, crawlers cost 75 more gold.
Economy: try to match them. You know they usually start 2 crawlers 2 miners. You start 2 miners 1 sword. You should be able to win the center unless you are really good microers. Even if you lose, you still have equal economy (not counting center.)
Bombers? Ugh, I have trouble with those too. Spread your units? Crawlers PWN. Keep them together, bombers PWN. What you have to do, is figure out which sword the bombers are targeting, and then move it toward the bombers (alone), and they will blow up.
Apr 6, 2013 3:04 PM #939262
Dat rage.
You're right, in a way. Conceptually, Chaos seems a little unfair with those bombers. First of all, you have a cheap low-tier unit that does insane AOE that can only be countered by tanks (speartons), which is a mid-tier unit (Dae mentioned this is well). Second is as frost mentioned. If you spread your swords to prevent getting blown up, the crawler mass pwns you. If you focus fire on one crawler, the bomber mass pwns you.
But really it's not as unfair as it might look, you just have to put a little thought into these units in what Buddy likes to call "Operation Bomb & Crawl".
Crawlers derive their advantage from speed and regen only. Without these two and a decent micro skill, chaos is screwed. They can be countered fairly well by a mass of archers.
Bombers derive their advantage from speed and AOE damage. They can also be countered fairly well by a mass of archers.
^ Hmm, so we are seeing some commonalities. Therefore, our army build *MUST* include a mass of archers. Behind our walls.
But now we have those juggerknights, which the opponent will undoubtedly tech up to fairly soon. So, you need swords in your build as well (you don't necessarily need rage, but it helps sometimes).
What if he responds by getting eclipsors and bombs to kill your swords? Well, that's why you need speartons now, completing the Order Trinity. Oh, and how convenient, we already have a mass of archers, so we can anti-air the shit out of any flying unit.
That's the general idea. Sword + archer mass is more effective that you might think; just keep pressing CTRL + 2, Q, CTRL 3, G, right click and that will allow you to kite and rage at ground units. Remember to cycle out weak units to heal up, and consider getting a meric for your sword mass.
You're right, in a way. Conceptually, Chaos seems a little unfair with those bombers. First of all, you have a cheap low-tier unit that does insane AOE that can only be countered by tanks (speartons), which is a mid-tier unit (Dae mentioned this is well). Second is as frost mentioned. If you spread your swords to prevent getting blown up, the crawler mass pwns you. If you focus fire on one crawler, the bomber mass pwns you.
But really it's not as unfair as it might look, you just have to put a little thought into these units in what Buddy likes to call "Operation Bomb & Crawl".
Crawlers derive their advantage from speed and regen only. Without these two and a decent micro skill, chaos is screwed. They can be countered fairly well by a mass of archers.
Bombers derive their advantage from speed and AOE damage. They can also be countered fairly well by a mass of archers.
^ Hmm, so we are seeing some commonalities. Therefore, our army build *MUST* include a mass of archers. Behind our walls.
But now we have those juggerknights, which the opponent will undoubtedly tech up to fairly soon. So, you need swords in your build as well (you don't necessarily need rage, but it helps sometimes).
What if he responds by getting eclipsors and bombs to kill your swords? Well, that's why you need speartons now, completing the Order Trinity. Oh, and how convenient, we already have a mass of archers, so we can anti-air the shit out of any flying unit.
That's the general idea. Sword + archer mass is more effective that you might think; just keep pressing CTRL + 2, Q, CTRL 3, G, right click and that will allow you to kite and rage at ground units. Remember to cycle out weak units to heal up, and consider getting a meric for your sword mass.
Apr 6, 2013 3:10 PM #939267
Hi reader (Especially jli),
Bombers are not unfair... you have to separate your units, they will still deal damage but they won't have as much of a profit. They might even have a loss in money!
.:Invincitron:.
Bombers are not unfair... you have to separate your units, they will still deal damage but they won't have as much of a profit. They might even have a loss in money!
.:Invincitron:.
Apr 6, 2013 3:11 PM #939272
Quote from InvincitronHi reader (Especially jli),
Bombers are not unfair... you have to separate your units, they will still deal damage but they won't have as much of a profit. They might even have a loss in money!
.:Invincitron:.
Yes, but then you're in the imfamous Bomb & Crawl dilemma. If you separate your units, crawlers can just focus fire on your swords and kill them 1 by 1.
Oh, and @OP: While you are raging, I do enjoy your rage writing style :D
Apr 6, 2013 3:13 PM #939275
Quote from jliYes, but then you're in the imfamous Bomb & Crawl dilemma. If you separate your units, crawlers can just focus fire on your swords and kill them 1 by 1.
Oh, and @OP: While you are raging, I do enjoy your rage writing style :D
Huggerknight ftw! *Hugs*
Apr 6, 2013 3:14 PM #939281
Wtf.. I just explained how to counter the bomb crawl dillemma...
Apr 6, 2013 3:15 PM #939282
Quote from DragonFrostWtf.. I just explained how to counter the bomb crawl dillemma...
Yes, but are you really saying you can figure out where the bombers are headed EACH TIME, and react in time to split ALL OTHER UNITS away from that one spot?
Apr 6, 2013 3:19 PM #939288
Quote from jliYes, but are you really saying you can figure out where the bombers are headed EACH TIME, and react in time to split ALL OTHER UNITS away from that one spot?
Yes, daemon can do that. See, what you do is this: split up your swords from bottom to top of the screen. Whichever direction the bombers are going, that's the sword they are aiming for.
But of course, I trolled daemon. I figured he would move the sword, so when it moved back I just switched to the next sword until all of them died. Which counters the order trick, if you have AMAZING reflexes.
Apr 6, 2013 3:21 PM #939291
Quote from DragonFrostYes, daemon can do that. See, what you do is this: split up your swords from bottom to top of the screen. Whichever direction the bombers are going, that's the sword they are aiming for.
But they could always switch targets midway as well.
Quote from DragonFrostBut of course, I trolled daemon. I figured he would move the sword, so when it moved back I just switched to the next sword until all of them died. Which counters the order trick, if you have AMAZING reflexes.
^