Are we real?

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Jun 8, 2008 2:56 AM #151263
You know what I mean, are we all real or are we just figures of our own imagination? Are we some kind of super intelligent life force that is just imagining all this and everything thats going on? What do you think?
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Jun 8, 2008 3:08 AM #151275
I think you mean "Figments", not figures.

And if we are, it's impossible to provide evidence supporting it, and since all we know is defined by our own world, it is not worth thinkg ing about. You should look into some other shit like parallel worlds, things that actually can effect us.
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Jun 8, 2008 3:11 AM #151277
The matrix wasn't that good of a movie.
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Jun 8, 2008 3:15 AM #151282
I believe so.
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Jun 8, 2008 3:55 AM #151322
Hehe wierd topic but ill get it moving....

This idea all depends on what you think.

See its either you take it from a creative , biological , or religous point of view. This i've seen often and i give the same answer all the time.

If you think creative, you will obvisouly think things like in the beginning. Like we are just imagining are own existince. This is obviously false, why? how would we imagine are own ability to have are senses like touch and tase, feel. Don't try to bring up that "what about how you feel in a dream" , please how you feel in a dream is completely differen't then real life. When you are falling and hit the ground in a dream , your body reacts to it but it does not have the same feeling. Also (if your in highschool or past it) you should have disected a frog/pig. How would you have the power to imagine somthing like that. Also how can you imagine that there is somthing called CO2 or the pancreas. It is highly doubtful that we would have that powerful of a imagination to imagine such things , when we cannot even imagine the simplest of things.

If you think on the biological side this will be your thoughts might be this. When life began the earth had no Ozone layer to protect it , so it was HOT. With all this sunrays like X-rays and other types of radiation hitting it while the earth was just made up of basic compounds. They began to form together until they made the first orginasms. Then it became more complex threw billions of years to slowly create life threw evolution , the OZOne layer slowly was made , of course it had risin because it had before been close to the earth (witch is toxic).

Finally if you think religously , You will think That either a god/s had created you. This means that either in the beginning you were created by some god/s that decided to create the sun / earth/ earth / and the living. This is usally what most choose. What most people don't understand is that most religions are based off the bible and transformed. If you compare the bible to many other religions, the religions that were not christianity , had taken bits and pieces and simply reconfigured them and filled in the rest. Anyone denieing this obviously has not read the bible and learned about another religion , or has no common sense. This happend because many people like there own idea's of religion , of course no one is stopping them , as it is there own free will to belive in there god/gods.


Hope this flares it up again
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Jun 10, 2008 2:10 AM #152712
Quote from Wounded
Hehe wierd topic but ill get it moving....

This idea all depends on what you think.

See its either you take it from a creative , biological , or religous point of view. This i've seen often and i give the same answer all the time.

If you think creative, you will obvisouly think things like in the beginning. Like we are just imagining are own existince. This is obviously false, why? how would we imagine are own ability to have are senses like touch and tase, feel. Don't try to bring up that "what about how you feel in a dream" , please how you feel in a dream is completely differen't then real life. When you are falling and hit the ground in a dream , your body reacts to it but it does not have the same feeling. Also (if your in highschool or past it) you should have disected a frog/pig. How would you have the power to imagine somthing like that. Also how can you imagine that there is somthing called CO2 or the pancreas. It is highly doubtful that we would have that powerful of a imagination to imagine such things , when we cannot even imagine the simplest of things.

If you think on the biological side this will be your thoughts might be this. When life began the earth had no Ozone layer to protect it , so it was HOT. With all this sunrays like X-rays and other types of radiation hitting it while the earth was just made up of basic compounds. They began to form together until they made the first orginasms. Then it became more complex threw billions of years to slowly create life threw evolution , the OZOne layer slowly was made , of course it had risin because it had before been close to the earth (witch is toxic).

Finally if you think religously , You will think That either a god/s had created you. This means that either in the beginning you were created by some god/s that decided to create the sun / earth/ earth / and the living. This is usally what most choose. What most people don't understand is that most religions are based off the bible and transformed. If you compare the bible to many other religions, the religions that were not christianity , had taken bits and pieces and simply reconfigured them and filled in the rest. Anyone denieing this obviously has not read the bible and learned about another religion , or has no common sense. This happend because many people like there own idea's of religion , of course no one is stopping them , as it is there own free will to belive in there god/gods.


Hope this flares it up again


What the fuck?
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Jun 10, 2008 2:16 AM #152714
so many spelling errors, so irrelevant in every way.

I've been thinking about this topic before, and i've found it to be false, because at points in time, i consciously think, "I have no idea what is going to happen next." a thought which would never occur if we imagined everything. You never have that thought in a dream (if you are lucky enough to think clearly enough to remember that in a dream), and if we made this all up, then we'd know the ending.
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Jun 10, 2008 2:52 AM #152730
f[SIZE="2"]uc[/SIZE]k you im real
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Jun 10, 2008 3:26 AM #152736
Quote from drocksta
so many spelling errors, so irrelevant in every way.

I've been thinking about this topic before, and i've found it to be false, because at points in time, i consciously think, "I have no idea what is going to happen next." a thought which would never occur if we imagined everything. You never have that thought in a dream (if you are lucky enough to think clearly enough to remember that in a dream), and if we made this all up, then we'd know the ending.


Actually, you can realize your having a dream in your dream. It's called lucid dreaming, it sounds like thats what you're getting at, but I'm not entirely sure, so correct me if I'm wrong.

Not much to debate since everything is leading to one side of the two on the debate. There are basicly two sides to the debate.

Real | Not Real

We can prove that we're real, in a sort of way. But if we are imagined there is no way to prove, and if we ARE infact imagined, we would always go back to the fact that we are real, because the imagination is telling us we exist, so therefore to ourselves we exist, even though somewhere else we might not be.

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Jun 10, 2008 3:38 AM #152745
Nah, we are real.
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Jun 10, 2008 3:45 AM #152753
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Nah, we are real.


end of thread ;3
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Jun 10, 2008 4:14 AM #152762
No proof for either side, not worth debating, etc
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Jun 10, 2008 4:19 AM #152764
Even if there is evidence supporting that we are all just imagened (which there i believe is not) explain to me this: than why would someone imagine themself to be a hobo? I don't think anyone wants to sleep out on the streets. So if this was all imagined, they would imagne themselves into a better life, no?
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Jun 10, 2008 4:48 AM #152782
Quote from NTG
f[SIZE="2"]uc[/SIZE]k you im real


I'm more real-er than all of you mother****ers
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Jun 10, 2008 4:52 AM #152786
Quote from springtime4hitler
I'm more real-er than all of you mother****ers

No, nigger .